American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Conversations with my 5 and 3 year old children today about the election were pretty funny. We explained why we were voting for Joe Biden and they said they would vote for Biden too if they could, for whatever that's worth.

My son said he would never vote for Donald Trumpet. I'm calling him that from now on. When I told him that he could be president one day and then asked if he would like that he said, "No, it sounds like a lot of work and it would probably give me a sore throat." Pretty astute.

I asked my 3 year old daughter if she wants to be president one day and her first response was "yeah, I want a present". Then I asked her again after explaining and she said "no, I think it would make me throw up."

Hard to argue with any of that.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Keep the Sabbath day holy

The political polarization we face is in no small part due to idolatry and the worship of false gods. That’s not hard to see. Maybe it’s as simple as “I’m the only God and if you disagree I’ll smack you” but it’s not so impossible to read it more as “believe in something or you’ll fall for anything”.

We’ve got thousands of years of examples of people claiming to be God. Usually it’s because they want your money, they want your soul, or they want to #### a member of your family. Possibly all three. It’s not like it isn’t something that’s worth warning about.

If you want to read the blasphemy commandment as a literal injunction against free speech, you can, but it sure looks to me like the first three commandments deal with the idea that there should be something in your world that is sacred, that you have the utmost respect and care for, and that there is value in having that in your life.

Keep the Sabbath holy - well, this just means don’t work yourself to death. You can be fundamentalist about it if you want, but that’s your choice. A commandment from on high to take a little time for yourself each week and remember all the good things in your life. That’s not exactly encroaching on your freedom.

A religion is not a legal code. A religion is a philosophy, a world view. Without getting too evangelical, if you:

-have one God upon which to focus your metaphysical eye
-are sufficiently skeptical all of the charlatans on your television and radio
-are able to view the world through a lens that incorporates the sacred and the transcendent
-know how to take time for yourself
-have a good relationship with your parents (and by extension, a good relationship with your children)
-recognize the value inherent to human life
-don’t have extramarital affairs
-don’t steal
-don’t spend all your time worrying about what your neighbour has

If you do all of those things reasonably well, I can envision you getting along with most people you’ll encounter throughout your life.

Nothing about that is controversial. Or at least, it shouldn’t be.

I say all of this as someone who hasn’t been to Church since Benedict wore the big hat.

[Johnny Makarov]

Is John Kasich the only decent Republican left in the country?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Is John Kasich the only decent Republican left in the country?

Romney voted to convict - that’s something.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Is John Kasich the only decent Republican left in the country?

No.

Will Hurd is a pretty decent guy.

Not a fan of all of his positions, but he is an honest, moral person who truly cares about the US.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Conversations with my 5 and 3 year old children today about the election were pretty funny. We explained why we were voting for Joe Biden and they said they would vote for Biden too if they could, for whatever that's worth.

My son said he would never vote for Donald Trumpet. I'm calling him that from now on. When I told him that he could be president one day and then asked if he would like that he said, "No, it sounds like a lot of work and it would probably give me a sore throat." Pretty astute.

I asked my 3 year old daughter if she wants to be president one day and her first response was "yeah, I want a present". Then I asked her again after explaining and she said "no, I think it would make me throw up."

Hard to argue with any of that.

This post wins the thread.

[Snuffleupagus]

Larry Hogan of Maryland is another

[driveway]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Romney voted to convict - that’s something.

Mike Murphy, not an elected republican, but one of their best political consultants. According to his Wiki he's "lead campaign teams to victory in more than forty races, including multiple Senate and Gubernatorial victories in California, Michigan, Florida, Iowa, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, South Dakota, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Idaho, Washington state and New Jersey." And he worked on both Bush the First campaigns as well as McCain and Romney campaigns.

He's wildly anti-trump, is one of the two key voices of the Hacks On Tap podcast (with David Axelrod) and one of the founding members of the Republican Voters Against Trump PAC.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Larry Hogan of Maryland is another

He voted for Ronald Reagan this year, I would be a little concerned about his lucidity.

[GirlySports]

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorses a Republican for the first time since 1972. And as you know PA is key.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...s/202010310021

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He voted for Ronald Reagan this year, I would be a little concerned about his lucidity.

It's a pretty low bar

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorses a Republican for the first time since 1972. And as you know PA is key.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...s/202010310021

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, also known simply as the PG, is the largest newspaper serving metropolitan Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Descended from the Pittsburgh Gazette, established in 1786 as the first newspaper published west of the Allegheny Mountains, the paper has existed under its present title since 1927.

It ended daily print publication in 2018 and currently puts out print editions only three days a week, going online-only the rest of the week. In 2018, the editorial tone of the paper shifted from liberal to conservative after the editorial pages of the paper were consolidated with the The Blade of Toledo, Ohio. After the consolidation, Keith Burris, the pro-Trump editorial page editor of The Blade, directed the editorial pages of both papers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Post-Gazette

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorses a Republican for the first time since 1972. And as you know PA is key.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...s/202010310021

This was posted on the weekend and like some had said the last Republican for them to support was none other than..... Richard Nixon. Great track record of support for hot garbage candidates on the right.

Why anyone would feel compelled to ‘endorse’ this clown is beyond me anymore; it’s just becoming supremely disappointing to read stuff like that. Political leanings aside do Americans who are or are considering to vote for this man/party not realize what is actually at stake here?? Honest question because it seems that they don’t. Anything short of a blue wave down there has me baffled.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorses a Republican for the first time since 1972. And as you know PA is key.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...s/202010310021

The top grocery store chain in the region stopped putting the Post Gazette on its shelves over the summer because of intensely biased coverage of the George Floyd/BLM protests, which included them taking a pair of celebrated journalists of color off of the story. They also made news in recent years, firing an award-winning editorial cartoonist after he was critical of Trump.

This is not a reputable organization any longer.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Imagine being someone that believes garbage like this. They exist, and they’re out there, somewhere.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1323319408530513922

"Bidens gonna take away your house keys!! You wont be able to get back into your homes!!" VOTE TRUMP

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[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He voted for Ronald Reagan this year, I would be a little concerned about his lucidity.

Didn't know that, at least he sent a statement to Trump, although a better statement would have been voting for Obama

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Chonger

"Bidens gonna take away your house keys!! You wont be able to get back into your homes!!" VOTE TRUMP

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It’s well known that Biden is in the pocket of “big locksmiths”.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorses a Republican for the first time since 1972. And as you know PA is key.

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...s/202010310021

As posted over the weekend, Not surprising. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is a story of corporate interference and the slide toward tabloid journalism. They were once a well respected paper, having won numerous Pulitzer Prizes over their history. They installed a Trumpist as the editor after the 2016 election and reporting was then skewed to favor Trump. It got so bad that they suffered from their good reporters moving on, others being fired, including their Pulitzer Prize winning political cartoonist, and then even restricting coverage of recent events like the BLM protests. Anything that could make Trump look bad was either buried or left out of their coverage. They have become the OANN of print journalism.

For those keeping score, this only Trump's ninth newspaper endorsement. These include the Sheldon Adelson owned Las Vegas Review-Journal, the Rupert Murdoch owned New York Post, the Phillip Anschutz owned Colorado Springs Gazette and Washington Examiner, The Cowles family owned Spokane The Spokesman Review, the Wendy McCaw owned Santa Barbara News Press (also the editor), the William Pape owned Waterbury Republican-American (also the editor), and the Digital First Media owned Boston Herald. That is a murder's row of ideological editorializing and the rapid decay of journalistic integrity in the industry.

For comparison, Biden has the endorsement of 105 print edition papers. McClatchy, one of the largest and most influential chains in the nation has not made an endorsement because of newly instituted rules for making endorsements. McClatcy will only allow endorsements if the candidates are willing to be interviewed by the editorial board. Donald Trump does not give interviews to local papers and as a result the papers are not allowed to give their endorsement, which last cycle went to Clinton, with the exception of the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram who endorsed "not Trump."

[GGG]

I love Nate Silver

I’m Here To Remind You That Trump Can Still Win

Essentially the same headline he wrote for the last election. Trump can win this election without shenanigans.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...can-still-win/

A slightly larger than average correlated polling error and trump is in the White house

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Romney voted to convict - that’s something.

Romney then voted to confirm the partisan hack judge that Trump nominated to the supreme court. One would think that if someone was unfit to be president, they would be unfit to select a lifetime appointment to the highest court, but maybe that's just me