07-28-2016, 09:07 PM
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#8841
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Itse
This I agree with.
But I think there's a difference between being held accountable and being a person you can't support. In fact I think many of the great leaders have made terrible mistakes before reaching greatness.
The example I've used recently was Nelson Mandela being a terrorist before he found better and more effective ways to bring about change.
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That's fair.
And obviously, where Trump is the alternative, she looks like a golden candidate. If I was American I would support her without question.
But that black mark would, for me at least, set her behind any number of other qualified candidates. Unfortunately, the US doesn't seem to have any number of other qualified candidates.
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07-28-2016, 09:07 PM
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#8842
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damn onions
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Clinton should win this just merely on the basis of the deciding who the Supreme Court judges will be over her tenure alone.
Trump would probably host a reality tv show for it or something.
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07-28-2016, 09:09 PM
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#8843
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by monkeyman
I was going to argue that GW Bush should be held accountable but he was so adorable dancing at the Dallas police memorial... I can't stay mad at that guy.
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hahaha
I know this is blasphamy but I liked GW Bush. He's a good man. Did what he thought was right for the country. I think he delivers a good speech too (im in the minority). Sure he made mistakes but every President does. He was a Republican. The Republicans have lost their way. They lost me 100% after Sandy Hook and now 200% after Trump. GW Bush not attending this years Republican Convention tells us everything.
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07-28-2016, 09:10 PM
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#8844
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Looooooooooooooch
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Her yelling shows that she cannot be President.
Trump for President 2016.
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07-28-2016, 09:11 PM
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#8845
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Blacks often have lower voices than whites. Applies to women too.
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I don't think her voice is lower than Hillary's. The difference is in talking to the audience rather than talking at them. It's an art, and some people just don't have the full tool kit. She's doing okay for what she's able to do, it's just limited. I'm concerned that people who aren't as keyed into the substance of what she's saying will tune her out. The actual concepts here should be instant death for Trump.
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07-28-2016, 09:13 PM
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#8846
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Strong on substance.
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07-28-2016, 09:13 PM
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#8847
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Edmonton
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Trump never yells. He's a polished orator and gives a skillful and intellectually honest speech each time.
/green text
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07-28-2016, 09:13 PM
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#8848
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Killing Trump right now.
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07-28-2016, 09:14 PM
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#8849
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Franchise Player
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Her style definitely works best for some good ol' Trump bashing. That was clear when she gave that foreign policy speech a couple of months ago.
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07-28-2016, 09:14 PM
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#8850
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
I think he delivers a good speech too (im in the minority).
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He was alright at it, lots of good ol' boy type charm at debates and townhalls. Complete mess as president thou. Seriously, that guy was a fugly chief executive
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07-28-2016, 09:17 PM
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#8851
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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I look forward to hearing what Lumpy and Friends think about this speech.
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07-28-2016, 09:18 PM
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#8852
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Franchise Player
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Wow, shoutout to Mike Pence's son.
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07-28-2016, 09:18 PM
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#8853
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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"A man you can bait with a tweet, can't be trusted with nuclear weapons."
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07-28-2016, 09:18 PM
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#8854
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Looooooooooooooch
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Hahaha damn!
"A man you can bait with a Tweet is not a man you can trust with nuclear weapons."
Soo good.
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07-28-2016, 09:19 PM
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#8855
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KelVarnsen
I look forward to hearing what Lumpy and Friends think about this speech.
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<fearmongering, teeth-gnashing, sabre-rattling, name-calling, fact-distorting, innuendo-asserting, deflection-launching, Main-stream media deriding>
It should be lots of fun.
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07-28-2016, 09:19 PM
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#8856
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
He was alright at it, lots of good ol' boy type charm at debates and townhalls. Complete mess as president thou. Seriously, that guy was a fugly chief executive
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It wasn't great but he was somewhat handcuffed. 9/11 happened 9 months into his term. I thought his economic, education and immigration policies were good. He got 40% of the Latino vote in both elections. The Republicans today wouldn't even get half that.
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07-28-2016, 09:20 PM
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#8857
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
"A man you can bait with a tweet, can't be trusted with nuclear weapons."
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Best burn ever.
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07-28-2016, 09:20 PM
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#8858
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Trump was just obliterated.
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07-28-2016, 09:21 PM
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#8859
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damn onions
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it's still shocking to me that Donald Trump is the republican nominee. What are they thinking? Unbelievable. He is sooooooooo bad.
Is he the worst republican nominee in history?
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07-28-2016, 09:21 PM
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#8860
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drak
Trump was just obliterated.
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He's got blood coming out of his wherever.
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