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Old 09-08-2025, 10:59 AM   #8801
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This next contract will be the most important of Andersson’s career, and he wants to prove he’s a better player than he showed last season. He’s going to want to play a big role on a playoff-bound team, but he’s not going to commit to an extension based on last season’s play.
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I hadn't heard he turned down for Ottawa. I do know he shut down a deal with Buffalo that was straight up for Byram.

On that side note. Buffalo is in a terrible spot. Nobody wants to sign there and players consistently want out. Total #### show. It's going to take a miracle worker to turn that ship around.
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Like the trade is one for one: Rasmus Anderrson for Bowan Byram?
Would have to figure Sabres could also be a team on his NTC list.

When the trade occurs, my guess its to one of the contenders
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Old 09-08-2025, 01:01 PM   #8804
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Trade Andersson by the holiday trade freeze please. Probably best for both parties. Appreciate Rasmus and his history with us, but I don't like it when a situation like this is allowed to hang over the team over too long of the season.

Then Coleman at the deadline whether we're in the hunt or not.
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Old 09-08-2025, 02:16 PM   #8805
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Ras for Byram in a 1-1 is awful for Calgary.
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Ras for Byram in a 1-1 is awful for Calgary.
When you consider right vs left, age, and contract status I'm not sure I agree.
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Old 09-08-2025, 02:34 PM   #8807
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If J-Fresh's player card says he is terrible. Then he must be terrible.
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Old 09-08-2025, 02:40 PM   #8808
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I was wondering what if Farabee has a pretty decent season leading up to the deadline. Let's say he's playing at a 20-25G, 45-50P pace is he a guy do you consider cashing out early on and trading him? Or is it another reason to trade Coleman, and maybe another winger to make space.

A part B to that question is if the Flames are on the outside looking in, should the Flames trade their best performers in the 25-35 age group in order to maximize assets, or look to move on from/burry their worst perfomers?
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Old 09-08-2025, 02:45 PM   #8809
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I was wondering what if Farabee has a pretty decent season leading up to the deadline. Let's say he's playing at a 20-25G, 45-50P pace is he a guy do you consider cashing out early on and trading him? Or is it another reason to trade Coleman, and maybe another winger to make space.

A part B to that question is if the Flames are on the outside looking in, should the Flames trade their best performers in the 25-35 age group in order to maximize assets, or look to move on from/burry their worst perfomers?
I think you use the opportunity to move Coleman. Farabee putting up those point totals is a bonus from that deal.
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I was wondering what if Farabee has a pretty decent season leading up to the deadline. Let's say he's playing at a 20-25G, 45-50P pace is he a guy do you consider cashing out early on and trading him? Or is it another reason to trade Coleman, and maybe another winger to make space.

A part B to that question is if the Flames are on the outside looking in, should the Flames trade their best performers in the 25-35 age group in order to maximize assets, or look to move on from/burry their worst perfomers?
If Farabee finds the net this season then you probably plan to keep him. At 25 years old he could be your #2LW for a few years and if everything goes well then he is either signing an extension or getting traded in 2027-28.

The only reason to trade him early is because Stromgren, Honzek, Suniev, and/or Basha is forcing you to make room for them.

Coleman and his 10 team NTL is a bit more tricky, so I would again only trade him with urgency if you have to make room for a prospect. Otherwise you should set a good price (one with retention and one without retention) and if a team meets that price then you pull the trigger. Otherwise, hold your hand until next season.

It is going to be an interesting season because I expect there to be very little movement for the Flames but once Andersson is traded, anything could happen. With the rumour that an Andersson trade may cause other vets to want out... that could change a number of variables for GMCC.

Also, we have a LOT of depth on the wings with many guys showing NHL ability. If we do not make room for them on the roster then we need to start dangling them as trade bait to get what we need.
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On that side note. Buffalo is in a terrible spot. Nobody wants to sign there and players consistently want out. Total #### show. It's going to take a miracle worker to turn that ship around.
You can’t undo terrible management.

Buffalo should rightly be awful for another 10 years because of the medical position they took with now Stanley Cup Champion, Jack Eichel.

No one should want to play for an organization that treats their players that way.

They’re just an incredibly poorly run organization.
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Old 09-08-2025, 05:40 PM   #8812
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I think Byran for Rasmus would if been great for both teams (although maybe not Rasmus).
I do wonder if it would have impacted Parehks usage and thus development at all, especially with PP time.





I imagine a Sens package would include Greig or Pinto with what the flames seem to be hunting.


I do wonder if there have been future only deals from teams like Vegas that have been turned down because they want roster plAyers.
The flames seem deadset on bringing roster players back in most deals.
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Old 09-08-2025, 06:03 PM   #8813
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I was wondering what if Farabee has a pretty decent season leading up to the deadline. Let's say he's playing at a 20-25G, 45-50P pace is he a guy do you consider cashing out early on and trading him? Or is it another reason to trade Coleman, and maybe another winger to make space.

A part B to that question is if the Flames are on the outside looking in, should the Flames trade their best performers in the 25-35 age group in order to maximize assets, or look to move on from/burry their worst perfomers?
I think the only guys they might move are Coleman and Andersson.

I doubt the Flames are going to miss the playoffs this year so Andersson is probably the only guy that is going to get dumped.
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Old 09-08-2025, 06:05 PM   #8814
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Wonder what Andersson does if the Flames light it up this year and he’s a big part of it? That would be a funny one to watch.
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Old 09-08-2025, 06:39 PM   #8815
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He likely goes UFA so you trade him regardless.
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Old 09-08-2025, 06:58 PM   #8816
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I think Byran for Rasmus would if been great for both teams (although maybe not Rasmus).
I do wonder if it would have impacted Parehks usage and thus development at all, especially with PP time.





I imagine a Sens package would include Greig or Pinto with what the flames seem to be hunting.


I do wonder if there have been future only deals from teams like Vegas that have been turned down because they want roster plAyers.
The flames seem deadset on bringing roster players back in most deals.
Vegas also doesn’t have any compelling prospects
Makes it tough
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One for one Byram for Andersson kind of makes a ton of sense for both teams. Flames get a cost controlled young left side D man that slots ahead of Bahl. Parekh is the Right side replacement for Andersson. In hindsight I wonder what Byram would have signed for in CGY instead of that Bridge deal he signed in Buffalo.


The only way it doesn't make sense is if your expectations are high for the return the Flames will get for Andersson.

That being said if the Flames were fine with that trade and Rasmus turned it down, then we know the ballpark of where his return will be. Really depends on who the Flames value when they do pull the trigger on that Andersson trade.

Make no mistake, he will be traded. Just a matter of when and for who.
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Old 09-08-2025, 07:51 PM   #8818
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Vegas also doesn’t have any compelling prospects
Makes it tough
And helping Vegas in any way works against the Flames as we hold their 1st round pick. Our goal would be to have Vegas crash and burn this season.

Hopefully their D is so bad that they miss the playoffs! That RD depth is pretty scary and they only have $1.186M in cap space to fix it.

Theodore-McNabb
Hanifin-Whitecloud
Lauzon-Korczak

Yikes...

Thinking about this a bit more, if we were to trade Andersson within the division, I would really hope that it would be the Ducks or Sharks. They both have way better assets to offer and the upgrade to their D group is huge. Look at the Sharks with Andersson:

Orlov-Andersson
Ferraro/Mukhamadullin-Liljegren
Dickinson-Klingberg
X: Thompson, Leddy

That groups looks ready to climb out of the basement with Liljegren and Ferraro off the top pair and Klingberg on the 3rd pair. It would also give them the ability to trade Ferraro for help in their middle 6 forwards.

Or the Ducks:
Mintyukov-Andersson
LaCombe-Gudas
Zellweger-Helleson/Trouba
X: Luneau

That group also looks a lot better with Trouba out of the top 4 (Mintyukov had better CF with Helleson than Trouba). Swap Gudas and Andersson's pairs depending on chemistry with the young guys.

If either or both of the Ducks and Sharks could get into playoff contention and squeeze Vegas out of the playoffs that would be a huge win-win for the Flames. (Bonus points if Eichel walks to UFA next summer! )
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Doubt Andersson waives to go to the Ducks or the Sharks. They are both horrible.
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Old 09-08-2025, 09:17 PM   #8820
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^ I don't see either the Ducks or Sharks climbing out of the basement this year.

The main reason is that their Cs aren't world beaters defensively, and when you combine that with a relatively weak D core, and an inexperienced #1G for the Sharks, then you get one of the worst GAs in the league. At the same time the Ducks had the 3rd worst offense last year, meanwhile the Sharks had the worst offense, so they would both need their forwards to take a huge step this year.
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