[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

In your opinion.

It’s not like you’ve offered one.

I see a lot of hand waving about how mean NDP voters are from UCP voters who have racked up 20-30 posts in this thread telling others to shut up or #### off, laughing at them, insulting them, and generally being everything they pretend to take issue with.

Pretty much the election in a nutshell.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Oh I’ll be happily gone by morning time. The amount of vitriol spewed in here from NDP supporters towards anybody that opposed them tonight is staggering. I said it earlier, I’ll say it again, the thread title should be changed to NDP fan forum.

It’s too bad, the people who voted in the UCP should defend on a policy level what the UCP does. It would be nice to have spirited political debate about policy.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I am a little surprised that only 47% of eligible voters voted. It would be interesting to know the demographics. Maybe the younger voters never made it our.

That's very disappointing if true. Shameful. It took me 10 minutes to vote.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

I don’t particularly like either leader, I am just excited about new voices and views in office - it’s that simple IMO.

I think this sums things up quite well.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by TKB

Even the Alberta politics thread for the last couple years was unreadable. Was the usual suspects circle jerking one another and attacking anyone with a different view point.

As usual, the fairweather conservative voters show up in this thread during election time. Next time, come debate people with facts and data during non-election times - prove the others wrong instead of only showing up when it's convenient.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

While it certainly wouldn’t hurt to change names and re-brand I don’t think it would have made a difference. The UCP spin doctors would have found away to continue to link her as nothing more than a Trudeau/Singh puppet and not to be fooled by a new name. Unfortunately a majority of Alberta voters would have bought into that rhetoric and I doubt the result changes. Just my opinion though.

Look at the post by Calf 4 posts up. If she combined with the AP they would have won that seat in Calgary! .....

Looking at Calgary NW, there's 1 poll left to report.

NDP is down ~300 votes, Alberta Party has 750

####!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

I don’t particularly like either leader, I am just excited about new voices and views in office - it’s that simple IMO.

Like who?

[Dozer]

C=ng

[browna]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

They needed to rename the NDP to literally anything else 2 years before this election. If Notley had done that she'd be preparing a victory speech right now, but she decided the team colors were more important than winning under a platform of good governance.

For that to happen you'd also need to have the support to do that if your campaign contributors to go off the NDP and any financial support from the NDP proper and from last elections.

While Notley may be closer to center than most NDP'ers in this province and in this country, starting a new party in the middle wouldn't likely have brought over enough campaign funds or party structure and organization from those supporters on the far left and NDPer who wave the flag in general no matter who leads the party.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

At least Shandro wasn't elected, I couldn't vote for him in this election.

At the end of the day, the polls never got it right.

while the UCP looks like they're going to lose about 11 seats, but its still a hefty mandate. Its probably the end of Rachel Notley, she had a lot of momentum and really lost it through the election. I don't really think she ran a terrific campaign, none of them did. This was a election based around negativity.

I'm interested in voter turnout, I was surprised today, when I went to vote, it was empty.

The UCP was fairly far ahead on popular vote, and still look to get a big majority.

I think part of it is this. In the last week of so of the election, they bought in Nenshi who went full negative, they bought in Lukasik (sp) and other former Redford Cons who went full negative, and they might have turned off voters.

The NDP can take some comfort in gaining some seats in Calgary, and there are some UCP cabinet members that aren't going back to Edmonton which is a good thing.

But this has to be disappointing for the NDP. I don't know how this province can be bought back together.

The polls got this election exactly right. The 338 polling average had it 52-35.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

So who do you guys want as next NDP leader?

Does this really matter to you? Right now? Is this a gloat?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

As usual, the fairweather conservative voters show up in this thread during election time. Next time, come debate people with facts and data during non-election times - prove the others wrong instead of only showing up when it's convenient.

Like clockwork.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Well so much for political discourse in this province. With a looney like Smith winning and openly bigoted candidates winning handily this will no doubt be a huge confidence boost for the Take Back Alberta extremists. They're probably going to see how far they can push the envelope now, wonder how long it is until we see more Republican policies imported up here like anti-trans legislation and book bans

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by browna

For that to happen you'd also need to have the support to do that if your campaign contributors to go off the NDP and any financial support from the NDP proper and from last elections.

While Notley may be closer to center than most NDP'ers in this province and in this country, starting a new party in the middle wouldn't likely have brought over enough campaign funds or party structure and organization from those supporters on the far left and NDPer who wave the flag in general no matter who leads the party.

And like it or not, the rural areas, and the oil and gas folks are just right wing. They aren’t centrist. Educated people in oil and gas I know spew carbon tax myths.

[Yoho]

Get your apology written out Stephan.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1662083310066204673

[Dion]

Originally Posted by GGG

It’s too bad, the people who voted in the UCP should defend on a policy level what the UCP does. It would be nice to have spirited political debate about policy.

Without the insults that get lobbed? Good luck with that.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GGG

The polls got this election exactly right. The 338 polling average had it 52-35.

Except for Quito.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I am a little surprised that only 47% of eligible voters voted. It would be interesting to know the demographics. Maybe the younger voters never made it out.

It's because both parties sucked, there was really no one to vote for. I know a few people who didn't vote because they couldn't stomach Notley or Smith. I know lots of people who voted ucp just to keep the NDP out, not because they liked Smith. It was a terrible election. A decent third option would have been nice.

[Yamer]

"Where we fell short, the responsiblity rests entirely with me." - Rachel Notley

That's the talk of a strong leader. I really liked that remark in her concession speech.

[Ozy_Flame]

Madu is GONE! Pack your ####, you're outta here!

Congrats to Edmonton on the full sweep!!!