[GDT] 2020 WC Play-In Round: Calgary Flames (8) vs. Winnipeg Jets (9) Flames 2-1 - Page 44 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Coach · 07-31-2020, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

My opinion has NOTHING to do with gaudreau's average year. It's that his game does not translate in the playoffs. If he's Ur primary offensive driver, playoff success may not be in the cards.

This is true until it's not though. Everyone has the potential to be better. People have said the same things about a lot of players who have found a way to elevate their games. We should be sending out only good juju to our boys.

I have faith in Johnny.

timbit · 07-31-2020, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Gio has been playing the ‘solid D leads to offensive chances, wait for your chances’ hockey that puts him more in the 40-50 point ballpark than the Hartley / Peters first 2/3 of last year ‘D has the green light, just make sure you get back’ game that puts him at a 70 point level

My big fear is that this team will not use their skill to take it to the opponents

As Ward has correctly alluded to, the will ( focus, courage, mental toughness ) has to be there before the skill is able to be maximized.

He’s right.

DeluxeMoustache · 07-31-2020, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

As Ward has correctly alluded to, the will ( focus, courage, mental toughness ) has to be there before the skill is able to be maximized.

He’s right.

I don’t know how this is a reply to a post about having an approach to the game that makes sense.

timbit · 07-31-2020, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I don’t know how this is a reply to a post about having an approach to the game that makes sense.

“My big fear is that this team will not use their skill to take it to the opponents“

Strange Brew · 07-31-2020, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I like how White Out gets cockier as the thread progresses. Should be a fun series.

Yeah I say bring it on. If as a fan base we’re afraid of the Jets then all hope is lost.

TC’s mini beat down was pretty nice IMO.

djsFlames · 07-31-2020, 07:21 PM

Scheifele and Connor do not scare me. Nor would they a lot of teams. Sorry.

Same could be said right now about a lot of the Flames top players. What makes the Flames scary is when they activate their D effectively. When the forwards are moving up on the ice on their own its pretty one and done, but when Brodie, Gio, Hanifin, Razz, now Gustafson who's offensively oriented get involved in plays it does make us much more dangerous because the D is a better puck moving and two way group than most teams have at their disposal. Those times when you see for example Brodie keeping a play alive deep in the other zone or on the rush is like having an extra forward, especially with his playmaking ability.

It's a strength we have to get back to using to our advantage.

Strange Brew · 07-31-2020, 07:27 PM

I am a little surprised how few people are picking the Flames. Listening to satellite radio a couple of hours ago and both guys had Jets, one of them in 3. A lot of the hometown 950 guys seem to be going Jets.

It means absolutely nothing of course.

Flames win this and Gaudreau is series MVP. He’s going to have some room out there to do his thing.

Icon · 07-31-2020, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I am a little surprised how few people are picking the Flames. Listening to satellite radio a couple of hours ago and both guys had Jets, one of them in 3. A lot of the hometown 950 guys seem to be going Jets.

It means absolutely nothing of course.

Flames win this and Gaudreau is series MVP. He’s going to have some room out there to do his thing.

I will pleasantly enjoy watching this play out... Because I don't expect it to. Too used to disappointment ;(

djsFlames · 07-31-2020, 07:34 PM

Exactly. Jets don't limit time and space nearly as well as other teams do vs johnny. He's consistently produced vs winnipeg and I think that fact is overlooked. They might be even more loosey-goosey defensively this year. Comes down what the guy with the weird name in net has to say about it.

JohnnyB · 07-31-2020, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ricardodw

A run to the finals would be something we would be talking about for the next decade if not longer. They would have to beat the Jets, then the Blues, Avs, Knights (pick 2) ...before losing to Bruins/Lightning/Caps That is a lot of winning against teams that have high end star power

No doubt, it would be amazing It would be something like Florida's run to the finals back in the days of rats on the ice. A team that caught fire at the right time but had no business being in the finals.

Even comparing to 2004 Flames, or the Sabres on their run with Hasek, I would say our current Flames have less of what it takes. No all-world goalie, and no all-world forward. Actually, even Florida with Vanbiesbrouk had a true star goalie that pulled them through.

Maybe a more believable best possible outcome is losing in the conference finals. So I guess maybe the late nineties Sens might be a better comparison for the Flames than the 96 Panthers.

Hopefully the Oilers end up like the late nineties Leafs.

bubbsy · 07-31-2020, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

This is true until it's not though. Everyone has the potential to be better. People have said the same things about a lot of players who have found a way to elevate their games. We should be sending out only good juju to our boys.

I have faith in Johnny.

True. Same can/should be said for monahan. You're right, perhaps they can breakout. But it's put up or shut up time for both.

If they can't elevate their game in big games by now, then the team needs to find a new plan.

Macindoc · 07-31-2020, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Hopefully the Oilers end up like the late nineties Leafs.

Or any other Leafs team in the past 50 years, for that matter.

Coach · 07-31-2020, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

True. Same can/should be said for monahan. You're right, perhaps they can breakout. But it's put up or shut up time for both.

If they can't elevate their game in big games by now, then the team needs to find a new plan.

I can agree with that for sure. But that's a bridge we can hope not to cross.

Textcritic · 07-31-2020, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I am a little surprised how few people are picking the Flames. Listening to satellite radio a couple of hours ago and both guys had Jets, one of them in 3. A lot of the hometown 950 guys seem to be going Jets.

It means absolutely nothing of course.

Flames win this and Gaudreau is series MVP. He’s going to have some room out there to do his thing.

I was pretty surprised to see on Tim & Sid today that the Oilers (18-1) and the Canucks (35-1) are getting better odds to win the Stanley Cup than both the Flames and Jets (40-1). That looks completely backwards to me.

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Textcritic · 07-31-2020, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

True. Same can/should be said for monahan. You're right, perhaps they can breakout. But it's put up or shut up time for both.

If they can't elevate their game in big games by now, then the team needs to find a new plan.

Monahan was bad in last years playoffs, but was one of the Flames best performers in 2017.

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tkflames · 07-31-2020, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

I was pretty surprised to see on Tim & Sid today that the Oilers (18-1) and the Canucks (35-1) are getting better odds to win the Stanley Cup than both the Flames and Jets (40-1). That looks completely backwards to me.

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Remember that odds are largely driven by the people betting...never underestimate the blind faith of Oilers and Canucks fans...

Coach · 07-31-2020, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tkflames

Remember that odds are largely driven by the people betting...never underestimate the blind faith of Oilers and Canucks fans...

I find there is a large portion of people who don’t really follow hockey, or even do so casually, that think the Oilers are great. McDavid gets them so much attention people think they must be good.

People who follow the game of course know they are, in fact, no good.

Jason14h · 07-31-2020, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

I was pretty surprised to see on Tim & Sid today that the Oilers (18-1) and the Canucks (35-1) are getting better odds to win the Stanley Cup than both the Flames and Jets (40-1). That looks completely backwards to me.

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You’re surprised the see the teams with a better record and easier path getting better odds ..... that’s .... surprising?

OutOfTheCube · 07-31-2020, 09:44 PM

Quick question: how do the stats count for this first round? Are they counted as official playoff games or will the stat counts disappear disappear like exhibition games?

Textcritic · 07-31-2020, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

You’re surprised the see the teams with a better record and easier path getting better odds ..... that’s .... surprising?

The Canucks had one extra OT win than the Flames, and they were playing like hot garbage when the season ended. Yes, I am surprised that teams which are legitimately not as good as the Flames and Jets are getting better odds to win a championship. And no, with everything getting re-seeded after each round, neither Vancouver nor Edmonton will have an easier path after the play-in round.

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