[News] The Edmonton Oilers win the draft lottery and will select 1st overall

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Weitz

If the Oilers have any sort of success with McDavid before his ELC ends he will be signed before his ELC ends.

There will be no offer sheets.

If he wants to sign. A guy like him might be severly limiting himself by doing so.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Weitz

If the Oilers have any sort of success with McDavid before his ELC ends he will be signed before his ELC ends.

There will be no offer sheets.

Annnnnd if he doesn't want to?.....

And what classifies as success? Getting each individual's TDPG above 4?

Or maybe just finishing a season without being a complete embarrassment (ie, only being in last by a teeeeeny bit)?

Or is last still the best? I'm confused.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Weitz

If the Oilers have any sort of success with McDavid before his ELC ends he will be signed before his ELC ends.

There will be no offer sheets.

And what if McDavid doesn't want to re-sign? He could hold out until he gets an offer sheet that Edmonton can't afford to match.

[Harry Lime]

I haven't gone through this entire thread, but I'm sure that this opinion must have been stated already....

Edmonton now has great depth in centre, but I will only be scared of them if they trade Hall. Hall is a defensive liability, and doesn't engender a team atmosphere. And somehow he is looked to as a leader at the same time. In terms of team play, I think that divesting themselves of Hall's leadership would go a long way towards making the Oilers a dangerous team.

Hall sympathizers always bring up his point totals. In a team game, who cares? Alexander Semin has as much raw talent as Hall, but is bad defensively and doesn't play a team game. These kinds of players are addition through subtraction, no matter how many points they are capable of putting up.

I wouldn't worry about the Oilers unless Hall is moved, and then I'll become interested in their potential.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

I doubt McDavid flees after his ELC, the oilers would match for sure (or sign him earlier, potentially). That leads to other consequences, cap wise however, which is really the issue with the ridiculous "dynasty" talk. I can't imagine the 6x6ers taking a pay cut on the next deal. This will be a very different team in three years, with hopefully the same success rate.

[2macinnis2]

Can anyone confirm the Flames would pick 15 unless they make the conference finals?

Can't seem to find a satisfying answer to playoff team ordering anywhere, and lots of contradictions.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

I doubt McDavid flees after his ELC, the oilers would match for sure (or sign him earlier, potentially). That leads to other consequences, cap wise however, which is really the issue with the ridiculous "dynasty" talk. I can't imagine the 6x6ers taking a pay cut on the next deal. This will be a very different team in three years, with hopefully the same success rate.

For sure they'd match, but the offer would be ridiculous and would cripple them.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by codynw

And what if McDavid doesn't want to re-sign? He could hold out until he gets an offer sheet that Edmonton can't afford to match.

Yeah, the Oilers would be sure to match any RFA offer, but he could very well pull a ROR and look for an RFA offer that will bring him up unrestricted free agency.

To be fair, the Oilers have the next 7 years to work with him and bring him along. By that time, he could be an Oilers lifer.

Given his expression after the Oilers won the lottery, he did seem less than thrilled, but a lot can happen in 7 years. No point in worrying about it now. If I had to bet right now, I would lean towards him leaving when he is 25, but only time will tell.

[Blarg]

If the coilers are right up against the cap, they won't be able to match even a fair offer sheet. That's my hope.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Blarg

If the coilers are right up against the cap, they won't be able to match even a fair offer sheet. That's my hope.

Then they'll gut their whole team to fit McJesus under the cap....

and will be right back where they started...again....again....again...

[Cflames_12.5]

Now that it has happened I hope they can get their team together. I hope to see some epic battle of Alberta games in the future. Despite the oilers history of high draft picks I think we have a deeper depth chart and a head start on the "rebuild". We have already found our team identity and laid a rock solid foundation. While the oilers will have to tear down the work they've done over the past decade and restart. But man in say 3 seasons if the oilers ever figure it out the battle of Alberta will be fun games to watch.

[Robbob]

I totally expect the Oilers to offer him a 8x9.7 contract before his ELC expires.

My thinking is that he has all the potential to be a generational talent. I just don't think he will fulfill that potential unless things change in Edmonton. Each year under this current management group is a year his development is slightly stunted. Worst case for the Oilers in my opinion is Hall taking him under his wing.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Cflames_12.5

Now that it has happened I hope they can get their team together. I hope to see some epic battle of Alberta games in the future. Despite the oilers history of high draft picks I think we have a deeper depth chart and a head start on the "rebuild". We have already found our team identity and laid a rock solid foundation. While the oilers will have to tear down the work they've done over the past decade and restart. But man in say 3 seasons if the oilers ever figure it out the battle of Alberta will be fun games to watch.

I dunno....I think they're pretty fun to watch when we pound them by 8 goals and cause things like "debacles of monumental proportions".

I hope they continue to be embarrassed. A losing season for every fan that thought losing to make the team better was the way to go.

That's a lot of losing.

[Cflames_12.5]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I dunno....I think they're pretty fun to watch when we pound them by 8 goals and cause things like "debacles of monumental proportions".

I hope they continue to be embarrassed. A losing season for every fan that thought losing to make the team better was the way to go.

That's a lot of losing.

That's probably what's going to happen. But I wouldn't be mad if Alberta became over the next 4 or 5 seasons the spotlight of the NHL because of the elite level of hockey being played by these two teams. One gets better by surrounding themselves with the best competition. Playing against a perennial bottom feeder so much wouldn't help the flames push themselves to higher levels.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cflames_12.5

That's probably what's going to happen. But I wouldn't be mad if Alberta became the spotlight of the NHL because of the elite level of hockey being played by these two teams.

Okay, time to dial it back a little. They got McDavid, fair enough, but they've got a long ways to go from the Sewer to get to Elite.

The Flames are middle of the pack and have some intangibles going for them but are nowhere near Elite and likely wont be for years if ever.

The Oilers....though...the expansion franchise in Vegas has a better chance of hitting elite status sooner than the Oilers and without McDavid.

[Cflames_12.5]

Originally Posted by Locke

Okay, time to dial it back a little. They got McDavid, fair enough, but they've got a long ways to go from the Sewer to get to Elite.

The Flames are middle of the pack and have some intangibles going for them but are nowhere near Elite and likely wont be for years if ever.

The Oilers....though...the expansion franchise in Vegas has a better chance of hitting elite status sooner than the Oilers and without McDavid.

Your right. I meant in a few seasons. I believe the Flames are heading in that direction. The oilers will probably screw this opportunity up with their management.

[Day Tripper]

Originally Posted by Cflames_12.5

Now that it has happened I hope they can get their team together. I hope to see some epic battle of Alberta games in the future.

I hope they don't get their **** together. If they get competent management, McDavid and the Oilers will win a few cups and destroy the Flames for the next 20 years. So let's hope Lowe and MacTavish run the show for a long, long time.

[Firebot]

The Penguins had Fleury, Malkin, Whitney and Crosby drafted all in a row (not to mention Letang who was a 3rd round pick). We still do not know if McDavid will even match Malkin, let alone Crosby. They also finished 29th in the league the year they had Crosby, Malkin (who did not play), Palffy, Gonchar, Recchi and Leclair (and Lemieux was still playing even).

Penguins started being good the next year, and it still took them a few years to win with a stacked team.

The Oilers have good young players, but they are still a long way away from being a contender. If the Oiler still don't pick in the top 5 next year I would be surprised. There are glaring major holes on that team that even a McDavid will not fix. The right mangement could fix this pretty quickly, but right now it is in the hands of a guy who brought in Eakins and traded Petry for a bag of pucks.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Cflames_12.5

That's probably what's going to happen. But I wouldn't be mad if Alberta became over the next 4 or 5 seasons the spotlight of the NHL because of the elite level of hockey being played by these two teams. One gets better by surrounding themselves with the best competition. Playing against a perennial bottom feeder so much wouldn't help the flames push themselves to higher levels.

There are 28 other teams that give the Flames plenty of competition to help them grow.

Getting in a tune up game against a terribad team every once in a while is a confidence booster and is very, very unlikely to even affect the Flames at all. Plenty of great teams to challenge us.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Day Tripper

I hope they don't get their **** together. If they get competent management, McDavid and the Oilers will win a few cups and destroy the Flames for the next 20 years. So let's hope Lowe and MacTavish run the show for a long, long time.

This is getting f***ing ridiculous.

Never, in the history of any team sport has ONE single player been able to do this. Never. Not even Gretzky and he is literally the most dominate individual player in the history of any sport.

He will help them improve, as will pretty much any type of front office change (that doesn't involve bringing in ex Oilers). But the above bolded statement is outright ludicrous.