Occupy Calgary/Do Not Merge

[CaptainCrunch]

[First Lady]

Days may be numbered for Occupy Calgary protest camp

[Mccree]

I think I might "occupy" Sylvan Lake next May long weekend. Free camping for all.

[First Lady]

Occupy Calgary leaving St. Patrick’s Island camp

Protesters expected to remain at Olympic Plaza


Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/Occupy+...#ixzz1chfKAx6z

[c.t.ner]

Another version of the same article, but this one has an interesting comment from Paul Hughes - the original St. Patrick's Island organizer.

http://www.metronews.ca/calgary/loca...ry-camp-closes

Confirmed to Metro late last night that numerous social agency representatives will be coming by Friday to begin the process of finding homes for 35 individuals.

“I’m massively satisfied,” Hughes said. “It’s like we won the Stanley Cup.”

Hughes said the final tent pegs will be pulled from the ground no later than Monday and he has further consultations booked with local advocates, namely Calgary Homeless Foundation head Tim Richter who visited the camp Wednesday

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Glad that at something came out of it for the homeless people at the St. Patrick's Island camp.

[First Lady]

CTV news confirms tonight.... it's not "really" 24 hour notice.

http://twitter.com/#!/C_DIG/statuses/132334449672200193

Notice could happen within 1 hour or up to as long as a year from now.



Oh and I forgot... this has got to be the saddest tweet I read tonight.

http://twitter.com/#!/lonnietaylor/s...25814229405696

[CaptainCrunch]

The above is why I have little reason to respect the occupyer's. Between things like the above, and the feed the homeless complaint in the occupy WS, those are examples that these people are politically motivated and not motivated to actually help anyone of the so called 99% thats not in their bracket of the 99%.

I would love to forward that twitter to that Tawnee people and ask her to define social activism since she's so big on that term, but I'm not setup on Twitter.

[Resolute 14]

Yup. There is no such thing as a "99%". It is a concept as asinine as the "62% majority" that NDP, Liberal and Bloc supporters pretended they had when their party leaders attempted their coup.

All there is are dozens, if not hundreds, of groups who care only about their own petty demands, and damned be anyone else, even if those others are theoretically part of their "99%".

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The above is why I have little reason to respect the occupyer's. Between things like the above, and the feed the homeless complaint in the occupy WS, those are examples that these people are politically motivated and not motivated to actually help anyone of the so called 99% thats not in their bracket of the 99%.

I would love to forward that twitter to that Tawnee people and ask her to define social activism since she's so big on that term, but I'm not setup on Twitter.

A few people have asked people like Tawnee (or @tavisford) about specifics like that and there is basically 3 response types:
1) ignored (most common)
2) Denied (aka: the media is misrepresenting what happened!)
3) Dismissed entirely as "not part of the big picture, focus on the larger failings of the capitalist system and its exploitation of native land"

[First Lady]

You can now print the petition to get friends, family and co-workers to sign.

Also Cory and I will be down at Olympic Plaza on Sunday at 1:00 PM to collect in person signatures. Feel free to drop by.

We are hoping Alderman Diane Colley-Urquhart will include it as part of her "Urgent Business" notice going before city Council on Monday.

[Muta]

I'm going to start a petition to get petitions outlawed.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by jaydorn

A few people have asked people like Tawnee (or @tavisford) about specifics like that and there is basically 3 response types:
1) ignored (most common)
2) Denied (aka: the media is misrepresenting what happened!)
3) Dismissed entirely as "not part of the big picture, focus on the larger failings of the capitalist system and its exploitation of native land"

I've said from a start that a large majority of the people involved in this are either students or former students that have read way too much Marx and way to much other weird books about failed political systems combined with reading too much Roddenberry, combined with blindingly insane people who carry around crumpled up pamphlets from radical conspiracy theory nuts to be healthy.

They are spouting jingo's that they don't understand, making demands that make no sense in the real world, and latching onto catch phrases that sound cool over a cup of coffee at Starbucks to be anything but unhealthy stupid.

Are there legitimate beefs, more in the States then this country but there are legitimate beefs, but they involve the homeless and desparate and sick, the people that these occupyers tried to screw out of low cost housing through their rants, or people who clearly need a break, something that some of these idiots tried to ignore because they're focused on some vague bigger picture strategy of bringing down a system that they don't have a clue about, or castigate business practices that they don't understand.

If they want to truly occupy, go down to the States and support your occupy brothers and sisters instead of making the movement look like a big joke.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm going to make a petition that makes dressing up as a furry a capital crime. Those things freak me the hell out.

[Regular_John]

Well, looks like Nenshi is still waiting for the weather to take care of things.

City must respect Occupy Calgary's right to protest, says Nenshi


During a press conference, Naheed Nenshi and top city officials said the country's top law explicitly protects political expression.

Police cannot arrest citizens for by-law infractions, such as camping in a public square.

Nenshi said the city could ticket and remove materials, but could not remove people from Olympic Plaza.

Negotiations with the police are ongoing.

About a dozen protesters have been camping in the park for more than two weeks. A second faction of Occupy Calgary that had set up a camp on St. Patrick's island annouced it would be shutting down its site on Monday.

More to come...

Evidently you may snub any by-law in the city as long as you claim it's a charter right to do so.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by First Lady

You can now print the petition to get friends, family and co-workers to sign.

Also Cory and I will be down at Olympic Plaza on Sunday at 1:00 PM to collect in person signatures. Feel free to drop by.

We are hoping Alderman Diane Colley-Urquhart will include it as part of her "Urgent Business" notice going before city Council on Monday.

Great. 2 more people clogging up Olympic Plaza with their useless cause.

By my count that's 14 now.

[Slava]

By-laws could definitely write tickets though...surprised that they aren't sending them in.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by jaydorn

Well, looks like Nenshi is still waiting for the weather to take care of things.

Whatever happened to fire hoses taking care of hippies?

[jar_e]

The city wants them out? Start writing everyone a ticket every night at midnight. The fine is quite substantial, and if they don't pay it or show up for court, it goes to warrant, and thus you can start removing these people.

[Bownesian]

Originally Posted by Slava

By-laws could definitely write tickets though...surprised that they aren't sending them in.

They would refuse to provide identification.

With the scant numbers of occupiers involved, I think the best move would be for the city to post a trespassing notice, then have the police show up several days later without notice at some ugly time of night (something like a Tuesday at 4:30 am?) and arrest anyone still there.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Bownesian

They would refuse to provide identification.

With the scant numbers of occupiers involved, I think the best move would be for the city to post a trespassing notice, then have the police show up several days later without notice at some ugly time of night (something like a Tuesday at 4:30 am?) and arrest anyone still there.

Even better, than they can be charged criminally with obstruction.