Kadri is fine. He's producing to the value of his contract, and he wants to stay. He might feel differently if he hadn't won a Cup with Colorado already, but maybe he wants to embrace a long-term leadership role and help build the franchise as a personal goal.
Girard is paid like a top two dman but is at best a 4/5 dman. That is why you need an asset to take him, he is not very good. He has a muffin for a shot so he has to rely on assists to get any point totals. The Flames would currently have 3 dmen ahead of him on the team for PP time with a 4th that they drafted this year bumping him next year. He would be equally bad on the Flames and get almost no PP time here. But if Colorado wanted to add a significant asset to move him to open up 5 million in cap space for their shrinking Cup window, I am sure the Flames could help them out.
I disagree a bit on Girard being paid like a top 2 D-men. Zadorov just got $5M, and I don't think Boston sees him as a #2. Hanifin is a #2 and he got $7.35M. There are currently ~65 D with a higher or equivalent cap hit, and that doesn't include Seider, Harley, and Lindgren as RFAs. There are additional ~30 D-men making in the $4-4.95M.
So yes, Girard is paid like a #3 while being a #4. He is probably about $500k-$1M overpaid. That said his replacement will likely be making just as much. That's why I don't see Colorado adding a significant asset. Also he's only 26, and had pretty good analytics last year.
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I’ve been told and basically just reiterating what Diss has said for months now:
“Kadri has no desire to move, he wants to play here and build something special which is music to Craig’s ears as he wants him here as well”
This is true, only thing I’ve heard additionally on this is that he would only really consider a return to Colorado which given his cap %. Is highly unlikely until Colorado knows the long term on VN. Even then… doubt it.
Vintage Boats still have value.
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^ I would actually be pretty happy if we managed to get Nichushkin in a Kadri swap. I'm still very high on the player, hopefully he gets his life in order.
Speaking of which here's what he had to say about the Seattle incident:
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It was the most difficult season; there were a lot of injuries in the team all season. I missed two months due to bursitis. I also had a shoulder injury, which constantly bothered me. I always had problems sleeping, but because of the pain in my shoulder, the situation with my sleep got worse. They did an MRI and they couldn’t decide whether to have surgery or not. In the end, they decided not to do it and gave me injections in my shoulder. These injections stopped helping and they decided to inject me with another drug. When we flew to Seattle, they decided that I would not play the match due to a shoulder injury, because I needed to not bother my shoulder for a while until the drug starts working and everyone on the team knew that I would not play until the end of the round
It put a lot of pressure on the psyche and was very annoying. I had friends in Seattle at that moment, and I made the wrong decision; we hung out with them at night, and in the morning, I flew to Denver. This girl in my room has nothing to do with me. The club advised me not to give any comments, and I myself was not emotionally ready to explain all this. This was probably the wrong decision and it was necessary to tell the whole situation right away so that there weren’t a bunch of different rumors. If we had made it to the second round, I would have been ready to play.
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Taken the translation form here to avoid doing the work, but it's correct.
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Kadri is fine. He's producing to the value of his contract, and he wants to stay. He might feel differently if he hadn't won a Cup with Colorado already, but maybe he wants to embrace a long-term leadership role and help build the franchise as a personal goal.
When Kadri signed in Calgary, he must have known Calgary was a long shot to win a cup. It was likely something about the city/lifestyle that drew him here. He doesn't strike me as a big city guy. He was always heavily involved with his community in London, Ontario, and Calgary likely provides similar opportunities. Also, this was his retirement contract and Calgary likely gave him the best offer.
Coming out of Toronto, he likely had something to prove, which he did in Colorado by being a key piece of their cup winning team. He seems to be enjoying his role with the younger players. He's won his cap and now it's time to provide mentorship.
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When Kadri signed in Calgary, he must have known Calgary was a long shot to win a cup. It was likely something about the city/lifestyle that drew him here. He doesn't strike me as a big city guy. He was always heavily involved with his community in London, Ontario, and Calgary likely provides similar opportunities. Also, this was his retirement contract and Calgary likely gave him the best offer.
Coming out of Toronto, he likely had something to prove, which he did in Colorado by being a key piece of their cup winning team. He seems to be enjoying his role with the younger players. He's won his cap and now it's time to provide mentorship.
I don't think it was seen as a long shot to Kadri. Remember he signed quite late that summer (august 18) and media and fans were quite excited already with the Tkachuk trade and Kadri knew that himself signing would solidify the roster even more.
The (now incorrect) narrative that summer was that Treliving did an incredible job salvaging the loss of two stars and put together a possible contender.
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Flames GM Brad Treliving has been on a roll since Johnny Gaudreau left the team for Columbus and Matthew Tkachuk let it be known that he wouldn’t re-sign long term in Calgary.
Jonathan Huberdeau, who was part of the Tkachuk trade, signed an eight-year, $84M contract on August 4. That deal, which also brought Mackenzie Weegar to the Flames, seemed to have the approval of Kadri.
“I obviously like the direction of the team. The moves we’ve made thus far, I think it’s been a great rebound. I always appreciated the Calgary Flames fanbase. All those played a key contributor into making my decision.”
I have no problem keeping vets that want to be here and have a good attitude and work ethic.
You need several of those types of established players on the roster to help bring along the young prospects and develop a strong working culture. Part of the Oilers early rebuild failures was due to the fact that they just rolled out the red carpet for Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, Schultz etc with little in the way of veteran leadership on the roster to the point the kids were ruling the roost. They got desperate enough to sign end of career Andrew Ference and immediately anoint him as captain but it was already too late as Hall and Co had formed a strong locker room clique and the young guys were just out to have fun.
No rush to move Weegar, Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, and impossible to move Huberdeau. Andersson is the next piece that needs to be moved for the rebuild but the timing on that should be mid season at the earliest proven he is having a strong year and the value is high. Moving him to a team where they get 2 playoff runs and potentially retained would bring back high end futures or a large quantity of picks/prospects.
Unless the guys signed with term are asking for a trade and willing to be reasonable in waiving for multiple teams then no rush in trading them off
I don't think it was seen as a long shot to Kadri. Remember he signed quite late that summer (august 18) and media and fans were quite excited already with the Tkachuk trade and Kadri knew that himself signing would solidify the roster even more.
The (now incorrect) narrative that summer was that Treliving did an incredible job salvaging the loss of two stars and put together a possible contender.
I recall one of the main talking points being how the Flames would be one of the the deeper teams at C going into the season as they could roll out a top three of Lindholm-Kadri-Backlund
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