02-21-2010, 09:02 PM
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#841
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kaine
Luo needs to start the next game
Perry needs to be benched. Knowing the coaching staff that won't happen tho.
Iggy should be glued to Sid for the rest of the tournament, but again terrible coaching so likely he will be on the 4th line again Tuesday.
Props to the USA team, deserved the win with hard work ala Flames 03-04.
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Perry will probably play 20 minutes next game
Doughty looked great = benched
He might even put Seabrook in net since he barely plays defense anyway
Iginla looked good on that last few shifts with Crosby and Nash as well. Bad news for him if he wants more playing time.
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02-21-2010, 09:02 PM
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#842
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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The Americans are a cohesive unit, wish I could say the same about the Canadians.
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02-21-2010, 09:03 PM
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#843
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomDad
What did Babcock do wrong? He played Iginla alot in the 3rd.
Also at least we get to see more hockey.
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He did. And it resulted in a ton of chances. Unfortunately, those chances were no where to be seen from that line until the very end of the game when Iginla was put on it. It was a total waste.
Playing Brodeur over Luongo after the Swiss game = stupid. Everyone knew Luongo should be in net.
The 2nd PP unit is a total mess. Different players every time.
Benching Doughty. Playing Neidermayer and Pronger waaay too much.
Most of all, I find Babcock's use of players the worst part of his coaching. To me, he doesn't seem to have a grasp on the players personally, and is basically just doing what he did in Detroit. Every player he chooses MUST play this specific role and must not deviate. That's fine if he knows the players well, but it doesn't work for an All-Star team like this.
Then there's Yzerman choosing Corey bloody Perry and a not-100% Getzlaf to be on this team... Amongst others.
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02-21-2010, 09:05 PM
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#844
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Mike Babcock is an moron. I love how he puts Iggy on the top line and they create chances. Maybe should've have stuck with that from the start! He also loves to tweak lines so much and have little sense of chemistry between all players save one line basically. Reminds me of a certain coach...and whats up with no timeout and let the line creating chances?
Brouder was brutal with his super aggressive goaltending, bad defense by our suppose to be top defenders, and unreal goaltending by Miller is why Canada has to take an extra game to get in the playoff round.
Don't think Canada is gonna get a medal now to be honest. Unless Babcock plays Luongo and sticks with his lines with having Iggy play with Crosby. Even then this game and the Swiss game is leaving some doubts.
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02-21-2010, 09:05 PM
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#845
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Lifetime Suspension
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I am so pissed at the coach right now, he's an egomaniac that for some reason leaves the worst goalie in and only plays the go to line in the last 3 minutes. 30 million people were just let down by that ######, I'm going to get drunk now.
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02-21-2010, 09:07 PM
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#846
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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The anger with Babcock isn't only centered around Iggy (although that doesn't help, because it's a big misstep by the coach, and it's not just Flames fans that think this way).
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02-21-2010, 09:07 PM
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#847
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First Line Centre
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Both Getzlaf & Perry are basically useless, I'd pick Lecavalier & St-Louis anyday of the week regardless of their play in Tampa...but whatever, what do I know...
The thing that pisses me off is the line that's put out when pulling the goalie....seriously Babcock you expect Joe fking Thornton to win a battle along the boards in the dying seconds???? Go coach the special olympics you idiot...
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02-21-2010, 09:07 PM
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#848
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary Alberta
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Worst decision was to go with Marty. Was questionable last game and made some huge mistakes this game.
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02-21-2010, 09:08 PM
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#849
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First Line Centre
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My new theory is Babcock is a complete genius.
Bench Iggy and put him on the 4th line in essentially meaningless games. All that's done, is make him angry and hungry. Iggy playing mad = Iggy playing well. He'll be given the ice time in the games that count and you can bet that he'll make the absolute best of it so he can shove it in Babcock's face. That makes sense, right guys?
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Right? Guys?
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02-21-2010, 09:08 PM
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#850
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Playing Brodeur over Luongo after the Swiss game = stupid. Everyone knew Luongo should be in net.
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Really? It seemed the vast majority of people, even posters on this board, were saying Marty should start this game.
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
I am beginning to question the moral character of those who cheer for Vancouver.
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02-21-2010, 09:09 PM
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#851
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Retired
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pacific Ocean
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What the hell does Joe Thornton bring to the team - having him out there in the last minute is one of the dumbest coaching moves I've seen in my life.
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02-21-2010, 09:09 PM
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#852
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Erie
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So many people had bad games tonight, Coach Badcock, Webber couldn't get the puck out of the zone to save his life, Perry (nuff said), the SJ line just can't, too slow, Getzlaf, well he makes me Laf, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
and, how could I forget Brodeur, who looked shaky last game.
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02-21-2010, 09:10 PM
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#853
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#1 Goaltender
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Babcock is completely useless behind the bench. Throwing whoever he wants out there especially that revolving door on the top line. Just put Iggy up there and leave it be! Also, Pronger and Neidermayer are pylons back there, yet Babcock continues to play the hell out of them. How good would Jbo look with Weber? I'm so pissed right now. The USA are completely taking over these Olympics.
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02-21-2010, 09:11 PM
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#854
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaneuf3
My new theory is Babcock is a complete genius.
Bench Iggy and put him on the 4th line in essentially meaningless games. All that's done, is make him angry and hungry. Iggy playing mad = Iggy playing well. He'll be given the ice time in the games that count and you can bet that he'll make the absolute best of it so he can shove it in Babcock's face. That makes sense, right guys?
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Right? Guys?
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In theory.
However Babcock is too stupid to pull that off properly and will have Iggy filling water bottles next game in preparation for the Russians meanwhile the Germans knock team Canada out
Idiot didn't use a TO to rest his top line and keep them out for the last minute and what's worse is he put Perry out for the final minute... just wow.
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02-21-2010, 09:11 PM
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#855
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Americas hat
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Brodeur really cracked under pressure.
Pronger looks horrible. Neidermeyer needs to remember he is a defensman.
Babcock needs to remove his head
from his ass.
The San Jose line is the most unclutch line I have ever seen. San Jose is screwed again this year.
These things guarantee no medal I fear.
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02-21-2010, 09:11 PM
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#856
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayer
Really? It seemed the vast majority of people, even posters on this board, were saying Marty should start this game.
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I think it was the right call to play Brodeur in this game. He let in 2 goals vs the Swiss (1 Marleau scored on his own net) and Brodeur shut down the Swiss in the shootout.
After tonight though, I play Luongo vs Germany.
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02-21-2010, 09:11 PM
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#857
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary Alberta
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freaking embrassing. We just lost to a team the Russians, Swedes, Fins are going to roll through.
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02-21-2010, 09:13 PM
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#858
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm
Brodeur really cracked under pressure.
Pronger looks horrible. Neidermeyer needs to remember he is a defensman.
Babcock needs to remove his head
from his ass.
The San Jose line is the most unclutch line I have ever seen. San Jose is screwed again this year.
These things guarantee no medal I fear.
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This is the thing that bugs me. He plays like a pylon in his own zone and then he rushes into the offensive zone as if he plays LW leaving Thornton to always cover his a**. In terms of the Sharks, Thornton has folded like he always does. I think the other 3 have been good though.
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02-21-2010, 09:13 PM
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#859
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oklahoma - Where they call a puck a ball...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirant
So...if:
1) Brodeur chokes
2) Miller plays amazing, and
3) The refs only watch Team Canada for 80% of the game...
The US can beat Canada.
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Well if this is how we Flames fans look after a flames loss I am embarrassed for us. I have never seen it from this side and I am way concerned.....
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02-21-2010, 09:13 PM
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#860
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socalwingfan
What the hell does Joe Thornton bring to the team - having him out there in the last minute is one of the dumbest coaching moves I've seen in my life.
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I think 99% of this board would have left him off the team based on his disappearing act when games are on the line, but Hockey Canada apparently didn't catch on...
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