The Roger Ebert Experience is pleased to select, in the Black & White category, the Paul Newman classic:
The Hustler
Newman, Gleason, George c Scott and Piper Laurie are magnificent. Newman got the Oscar for Color of Money, it was really a make up for not winning it in 1961.
If Ali is allowed, that's weak, my pick of Titanic got rejected to the non fiction category.
GetBak's response more than adequately explained the whole reason for rejecting Titanic while accepting Ali......anyone can write a fictional story and put it in an actual historical event but that doesn't make it biographical or non-fiction ie. Titanic.
Ali is an actual re-telling of a man's life & while it may be dramatized, it is biographical in nature and can be seen as such as the events re-told in the film, re-tell actual happenings to an actual person - not a fictional person.
Not to pile on VanFlames......but you gotta admit, Titanic is the weak choice of the 2 as a non-fictional pick.
The Roger Ebert Experience is pleased to select, in the Black & White category, the Paul Newman classic:
The Hustler
Great pick. Another that I was hoping to pick up later in the draft. Nice going habby!
As for Ali, I have no problems with it in the non-fiction category. It is listed as a biography and it's largely based on a real person's life. Titanic isn't. Easy determination really.
I'd say that Catch Me If You Can and Dog Day Afternoon push the limits of "non-fiction" more than Ali does. If those two are allowed, I don't see how you can deny Ali.
Not sure how Dog Day Afternoon pushes the limits. It was based on interviews with the involved FBI officers and hostages, as well as television footage and bank security footage; the intent was always to follow the actual events as closely as possible. After the film's release, Wojtowicz disputed that two of the phone calls didn't actually happen and that his wife was portrayed as a negative character when she was actually very supportive, but about 95% of the film's screen time is depicting events and conversation that are documented as to have happened. I'd say the only other film that has a similar level of historical accuracy that's been picked so far would be United 93, where (other than the villainization of the european passenger) the directors were absolutely faithful to the information they had at the time, (although more inaccuracies were uncovered once the cockpit recordings were released).
I think we need to get a clearly defined decision about what counts as non-fiction, or else we'll get these sorts of arguments with every single pick in the category. In retrospect, I think it was a mistake not to limit it to traditional documentaries, but at this point too many non-documentaries have been picked.
Not sure how Dog Day Afternoon pushes the limits. It was based on interviews with the involved FBI officers and hostages, as well as television footage and bank security footage; the intent was always to follow the actual events as closely as possible. After the film's release, Wojtowicz disputed that two of the phone calls didn't actually happen and that his wife was portrayed as a negative character when she was actually very supportive, but about 95% of the film's screen time is depicting events and conversation that are documented as to have happened. I'd say the only other film that has a similar level of historical accuracy that's been picked so far would be United 93, where (other than the villainization of the european passenger) the directors were absolutely faithful to the information they had at the time, (although more inaccuracies were uncovered once the cockpit recordings were released).
I think we need to get a clearly defined decision about what counts as non-fiction, or else we'll get these sorts of arguments with every single pick in the category. In retrospect, I think it was a mistake not to limit it to traditional documentaries, but at this point too many non-documentaries have been picked.
Sorry, I didn't mean to crap on your choice. I don't have a problem with Dog Day in the category. Like you say, they tried to stay as accurate as possible to the actual events (with some artistic license for story purposes, but even the tone of a true documentary can be influenced by the director's own biases -- see: Moore, Michael).
I just found it strange that of the recent picks in the category, the one that is being questioned the most is the one which is based on the life of one of the most well-known people of the 20th Century and features events that were well documented by the mass media.
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I had another pick all ready to go, but I scrapped it entirely and am gonna go off the board and pick one of my personal favourites.
Team Pineapple is proud to select in the category of comedy, Tommyboy.
Released in 1995, this film stars the late Chris Farley and David Spade. Farley is Tommyboy, a slacker who after seven years of university has finally graduated. He returns home to his fathers autoparts factory and tries to settle into a job there. When his father passes away, Farley and Spade must hit the road to sell autoparts in an attempt to keep the factory from being shut down and/or sold, leaving many without jobs.
It doesn't seem to have a very high rating from the critics, but I love it. It's one film that makes me laugh everytime I see it. I love David Spade and his snotty attitude, love Chris Farley and his physical comedy. Great combination in this film. Admittedly, it's a pretty stupid movie, but I think it's goshdarn hilarious. To steal from the comedy network, it's time well wasted.
So, trivia...
-The auto shop garages in one of the Zalinsky TV ads are actually Canadian Tire Corporation auto service centre garages
-Chris Farley's brother can be seen in Big Toms wedding scene, sitting next to Farley, when Tom asks Tommy to join him in the song on stage.
-Farley's character graduates from Marquette University, which is Farley's real alma-mater.
And some Youtube clips:
The Trailer:
It features my favourite line, the part about his clip-on tie
"Haha, it's a clip on"
"Haha, are ya sure?"
Love it.
A short highlight video:
Some language
A much longer highlight video:
(10mins)
Some language, so maybe NSFW
"Housekeeping"
Perhaps a lil NSFW
Love it all!!
And I believe that Liamenator is up now...
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With our 9th pick, BF & the BFFs are proud to select, in the category of Sci-Fi, a film that has continued to grow on us as the years go by, one that seems to reveal something new with each and every viewing... A Sci-Fi film that marks a return to the traditional, intellectual qualities of "pure" Science-Fiction... A profound statement on the nature of our world, one that places a mirror in front of the viewer and forces deep contemplation about contemporary society... A technically brilliant film by a very gifted visual filmmaker, who creates a realistic portrayal of a dystopic future that is not so different from the world we inhabit... Alfonso Cuaron's 2006 underrated masterpiece, Children of Men.
I could go on and on about this movie... But I'll leave it to Slavoj Zizek who is far more articulate (and entertaining). We watched it in the Film class I T.A. for recently and it produced some of the most engaging conversation about film I've ever had, simply because there is so much to talk about contained within it.
With our 9th pick, BF & the BFFs are proud to select, in the category of Sci-Fi, a film that has continued to grow on us as the years go by, one that seems to reveal something new with each and every viewing... A Sci-Fi film that marks a return to the traditional, intellectual qualities of "pure" Science-Fiction... A profound statement on the nature of our world, one that places a mirror in front of the viewer and forces deep contemplation about contemporary society... A technically brilliant film by a very gifted visual filmmaker, who creates a realistic portrayal of a dystopic future that is not so different from the world we inhabit... Alfonso Cuaron's 2006 underrated masterpiece, Children of Men.
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[LEFT]I could go on and on about this movie... But I'll leave it to Slavoj Zizek who is far more articulate (and entertaining). We watched it in the Film class I T.A. for recently and it produced some of the most engaging conversation about film I've ever had, simply because there is so much to talk about contained within it.
Bravo. I had hoped this would fall to the point where it would make sense as a wildcard pickup, but suspected someone else would go for it before then. I'd put this as one of my top three favorite science fiction movies of all time, behind Alien and another one that hasn't been picked yet. There's a couple moments in the film that bring tears to my eyes not out of sadness but for the sheer power of the moment. And the long-shots are among the best ever filmed.
Children Of Men rocks!! I was blown away the first time I saw it, and wondered why it didn't garner more attention than it did. A great film, and a great pick.
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Children Of Men rocks!! I was blown away the first time I saw it, and wondered why it didn't garner more attention than it did. A great film, and a great pick.
I loved that film also. Made for great discussion amongst friends afterwards.
Hmm I have to disagree with Children of men, I think it is the weakest pick so far in the draft. Almost two hours of silly, flat story, countless plot holes and boredom.
Even Julianne Moore knew better and got herself shot couple of minutes into the movie.
