[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[1qqaaz]

There have been times where players have only wanted to play for the Rangers and the Rangers still paid a decent price for the players. See Martin St. Louis and Adam Fox. Or Giroux to the Panthers.

In this case, I find it hard to believe that Andersson would only extend in Vegas. If the Panthers acquired him, he'd really refuse the extension? Seems kind of ridiculous. I believe that Andersson may be posturing his preference for leverage purposes.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

There have been times where players have only wanted to play for the Rangers and the Rangers still paid a decent price for the players. See Martin St. Louis and Adam Fox. Or Giroux to the Panthers.

In this case, I find it hard to believe that Andersson would only extend in Vegas. If the Panthers acquired him, he'd really refuse the extension? Seems kind of ridiculous. I believe that Andersson may be posturing his preference for leverage purposes.

He has less contractural leverage if he’s only willing to sign with one team.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

One would think Andersson would take the extension a bit more seriously, considering if he becomes a UFA and does not extend to the team he is dealt to, he potentially loses 2 years of top dollar.

The CBA expires September 15th 2026, so unless Andersson waits the entire summer he'll be signing at minimum a seven year deal.

[iloveicedhockey]

I think the whole 'wants to win' thing is a bit of a red herring. There aren't really any long dynasties anymore, and even teams who win a couple tend to fade pretty quickly after that. If he really wanted to win, he'd sign a minimum AAV 1 year deal with Florida or join a team about to enter their prime (which is a crap shoot). When you look at Vegas, does anyone see them getting back to the top with an aging stone, eichel out of contract after this season and a potentially retired number 1 defenseman?

I fully expect the the whole "no commitment to signing a deal with a new team" to suspiciously be proven a lie shortly after, where he signs a long term deal.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

There have been times where players have only wanted to play for the Rangers and the Rangers still paid a decent price for the players. See Martin St. Louis and Adam Fox. Or Giroux to the Panthers.

In this case, I find it hard to believe that Andersson would only extend in Vegas. If the Panthers acquired him, he'd really refuse the extension? Seems kind of ridiculous. I believe that Andersson may be posturing his preference for leverage purposes.

I think that's what friedman was implying.


That theres more then just vegas he would consider, but the list is small and somewhat unrealistic. Like he would go to Florida but they can't afford the contract and have no assets.


He specifically mentioned Florida as one if these other teams.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by traptor

I think that's what friedman was implying.


That theres more then just vegas he would consider, but the list is small and somewhat unrealistic. Like he would go to Florida but they can't afford the contract and have no assets.


He specifically mentioned Florida as one if these other teams.

He mentioned Florida as an example, not as a team he knows Rasmus wants to go to

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He has less contractural leverage if he’s only willing to sign with one team.

It's not that he's only willing to sign with one team (or small number of teams).
It's he's only willing to give up testing the mark, to maximize his value, by signing with a team ahead of UFA.

Important difference

[Goriders]

I think the Flames have been screwed over enough times by players boxing them in on trade requests. I hope this time they maximize their return.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by BigThief

The CBA expires September 15th 2026, so unless Andersson waits the entire summer he'll be signing at minimum a seven year deal.

It has been repeatedly reported that if a contract goes into effect for the 2026-27 season or thereafter, the maximum length will be one year shorter than it is at present. Nobody will be allowed to sign eight-year contracts in the summer of 2026, because those contracts are entirely for games played under the new CBA and are not grandfathered in.

[FlamesAddiction]

I don't blame Conroy for not trading Andersson at the deadline last season. I know the idea is controversial, but I'm personally not a fan of pulling the rug out from under the team when they are on the cusp of making the playoffs. I just don't think it's good for the culture and with another year on the contract, it wasn't immediately urgent. I am also not convinced that we were getting great offers at that time because it wasn't a banner year for Andersson individually.

Personally, I think the best course of action now might be to trade him mid-season. Hopefully being a contract year, he'll come out of the gates swinging and the Flames are going to put him in showcase situations. Even though he is on an expiring deal, I think it's not out of the realm of possibility that he has more value this season than last, especially if some team gets desperate for an RD.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't blame Conroy for not trading Andersson at the deadline last season. I know the idea is controversial, but I'm personally not a fan of pulling the rug out from under the team when they are on the cusp of making the playoffs.

And they would have made the playoffs, too, if St. Louis had not taken every single point they got in that incredible streak.

I firmly believe the experience of playing meaningful and competitive hockey until the very end of the season was more beneficial to the young players on the team than any (hypothetical) increased return from trading Andersson would have been to the organization as a whole. The best way to learn to play under pressure is to play in the playoffs; the second best way is a tight race to the finish for a playoff seed.

I think we can dismiss out of hand the idea that the Flames might have traded Andersson and still made the playoffs. They went into last season with Weegar, Andersson, and a collection of third-pairing and tweener D. Replacing Andersson with yet another tweener would certainly have cost them points and put them far enough behind St. Louis to make the race a foregone conclusion.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think the Flames have been screwed over enough times by players boxing them in on trade requests. I hope this time they maximize their return.

That's the risk when you trade players with one year to go to UFA.

Those players often want to choose where they will sign as they'll have that option in UFA anyway.

I don't think many consider a player wanting to limit where he would sign as screwing over anyone.

Especially when the player wasn't given an 8 year contract to begin with. Again, Andersson was given a 6 year deal. If it was 8 years, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Much like Johnny and others before him, Treliving's need to save cap with (in this case) a 6 year contract eventually bit the Flames.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

It has been repeatedly reported that if a contract goes into effect for the 2026-27 season or thereafter, the maximum length will be one year shorter than it is at present. Nobody will be allowed to sign eight-year contracts in the summer of 2026, because those contracts are entirely for games played under the new CBA and are not grandfathered in.

I’ve seen this posted on here but it doesn’t really make sense. Andersson will play his games under the new CBA anyways. I think someone misread the dates as Sept 26th or some insider was wrong. The only other possibility is July 1st 2026 defers to the new cba but that’s also odd unless written into the language.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't blame Conroy for not trading Andersson at the deadline last season. I know the idea is controversial, but I'm personally not a fan of pulling the rug out from under the team when they are on the cusp of making the playoffs. I just don't think it's good for the culture and with another year on the contract, it wasn't immediately urgent. I am also not convinced that we were getting great offers at that time because it wasn't a banner year for Andersson individually.

Personally, I think the best course of action now might be to trade him mid-season. Hopefully being a contract year, he'll come out of the gates swinging and the Flames are going to put him in showcase situations. Even though he is on an expiring deal, I think it's not out of the realm of possibility that he has more value this season than last, especially if some team gets desperate for an RD.

Except the same thing will likely happen this coming season. The Flames will be in the mix, and in order to trade Andersson, you'd have to "pull the rug out".

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Except the same thing will likely happen this coming season. The Flames will be in the mix, and in order to trade Andersson, you'd have to "pull the rug out".

0.0% chance Conroy holds onto Andersson past the trade deadline regardless of the teams place in the standings. He had a front row seat for what happened with Gaudreau and that mistake simply won't be made again under Conny. I know all of you are bored in the summer months but holding onto Andersson until the trade deadline isn't the worst thing that can happen.

[Johnny Makarov]

Just be prepared for a 2nd and 3rd coming back for him....

His last 10 games during crunch time. 2 assists, an ill timed stare down goal and a -9.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Just be prepared for a 2nd and 3rd coming back for him....

His last 10 games during crunch time. 2 assists, an ill timed stare down goal and a -9.

Guy was playing on 1 leg.

By that logic. First 15 games of season, he was the best D in the entire league.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by CFO

Guy was playing on 1 leg.

By that logic. First 15 games of season, he was the best D in the entire league.

We should have traded him then.

The next 15 games he had 4 points and was a -5. and prob playing on 2 legs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Except the same thing will likely happen this coming season. The Flames will be in the mix, and in order to trade Andersson, you'd have to "pull the rug out".

Trading 1 player wouldn't have been pulling the rug for me. Based off what Conroy said he has had open discussions with what we are doing here. If you can communicate to the team and make the moves I doubt it will make them upset.

14/15 traded Glencross doing the right thing. We went out and made bold moves after a unexpected playoff appearance and the next season was in the middle of the race to get Auston Matthews.

Seems like the we got close to the same mistake with word we almost landed Miller and in the thick of Byram rumours.

[The Original FFIV]

For everyone saying we should have traded Andersson at deadline, we don’t know what was being offered.

If Dreger said they were offered a whopper of a deal from LA which others in the know say wasn’t very much, maybe those offers at deadline were underwhelming as well. We just don’t know.

Buffalo isn’t getting the offers for Byram that they want. Nor are we for Andersson. So market is probably depressed after Dobson and Miller went for premiums that those teams were willing to pay. The expected tightening of the market hasn’t materialized yet so we either take a lesser return and be done with it or we wait until we get an offer that meets our price. I wish this was done and dusted but glad conroy isn’t giving him away.