2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Sandman]

Controversial opinion, but I would be fine trading Coronato if it brought in a young C that was worth a damn. Same with Pelletier, but I don't see him having much value.

[Jay Random]

I happen to think Coronato is worth considerably more than a damn. I wouldn't consider trading him for a player with merely bottom-six upside.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Controversial opinion, but I would be fine trading Coronato if it brought in a young C that was worth a damn. Same with Pelletier, but I don't see him having much value.

Not controversial at all. Would have no problem trading from a position of strength. With Pelletier, coronato, honzek, suniev, battaglia, misa. And stromgren, klapka, and gridin, i would have no problem dealing one of them for a comparable c or part if a bigger trade. Anderson plus pelts, coronato or someone else would probably fetch the center we havent been able to land to this point.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Controversial opinion, but I would be fine trading Coronato if it brought in a young C that was worth a damn. Same with Pelletier, but I don't see him having much value.

If I were Conroy I would target one of Winnipeg's young centers playing for the moose, Chaz Lucius has had injury problems but is back or Brad Lambert.

Both are 6'2 and R-shot and will have problems cracking Winnipeg's lineup due to their center depth

[Sandman]

If we're talking trade with Detroit, I would say Danielson is off the table, and Edvinsson, ASP, Cossa, and Kasper are probably a no-go as well. They have an incredible prospect base though, and here are a few other ideas:

-W Michael Brandsegg-Nygard: I love this kid, and I wouldn't think Detroit would be interested in giving him up either. He's a 6'1", 207lb speedster who also plays a physical game with some bite. Drafted 15th-overall this past summer.
-Liam Dower Nilsson (21 yo) and Noah Dower-Nilsson (19 yo): Both can play C or W, both are excellent 3-zone players with speed, both are 6'0" tall, both have a chip on their shoulder, and both can provide offense.
-RW Jesse Kiiskinen (19 yo): Aquired from the Preds, he's doing well so far in Finland's top-tier Liiga, with 16 points in 18 games- the top U20 player in that circuit. Loved him in his draft year. He's 6'1" (6'2", according to hockeydb), and plays a hard-nosed, energetic game. Good skater, with an excellent shot.
-C Max Plante: 5'11",176lb pivot, selected this summer in the second round. He's a gifted playmaker, and plays well in all 3 zones.
-LD William Wallinder: 6'4" rearguard who is a good puck-rusher with great skating ability, and a quality puck-mover.
-LD Shai Buium: 6'3", 220lb blueliner who displays mobility, physicality, and a solid two-way game. Has a high ceiling.
-LW Dmitri Buchelnikov (21 yo): He's not big (5'10"), but he put up astronomical numbers in his draft year as an overager (41 goals and 75 points in 56 MHL games), and has 16 points in 19 KHL games this year. Gifted with a high skill level, and is dynamic 1-on-1, even though he's not an elite skater. Excellent shot, and a top-notch offensive player.
-G Trey Augustine (19 yo): 2nd-rounder from 2023, he's 1.60 GAA, and .939 SV% in 5 NCAA games.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If we're talking trade with Detroit, I would say Danielson is off the table, and Edvinsson, ASP, Cossa, and Kasper are probably a no-go as well. They have an incredible prospect base though, and here are a few other ideas:

-W Michael Brandsegg-Nygard: I love this kid, and I wouldn't think Detroit would be interested in giving him up either. He's a 6'1", 207lb speedster who also plays a physical game with some bite. Drafted 15th-overall this past summer.
-Liam Dower Nilsson (21 yo) and Noah Dower-Nilsson (19 yo): Both can play C or W, both are excellent 3-zone players with speed, both are 6'0" tall, both have a chip on their shoulder, and both can provide offense.
-RW Jesse Kiiskinen (19 yo): Aquired from the Preds, he's doing well so far in Finland's top-tier Liiga, with 16 points in 18 games- the top U20 player in that circuit. Loved him in his draft year. He's 6'1" (6'2", according to hockeydb), and plays a hard-nosed, energetic game. Good skater, with an excellent shot.
-C Max Plante: 5'11",176lb pivot, selected this summer in the second round. He's a gifted playmaker, and plays well in all 3 zones.
-LD William Wallinder: 6'4" rearguard who is a good puck-rusher with great skating ability, and a quality puck-mover.
-LD Shai Buium: 6'3", 220lb blueliner who displays mobility, physicality, and a solid two-way game. Has a high ceiling.
-LW Dmitri Buchelnikov (21 yo): He's not big (5'10"), but he put up astronomical numbers in his draft year as an overager (41 goals and 75 points in 56 MHL games), and has 16 points in 19 KHL games this year. Gifted with a high skill level, and is dynamic 1-on-1, even though he's not an elite skater. Excellent shot, and a top-notch offensive player.
-G Trey Augustine (19 yo): 2nd-rounder from 2023, he's 1.60 GAA, and .939 SV% in 5 NCAA games.

At some point Detroit has to put in some chips to get them over the hump. In arguably the toughest division in the nhl right now, you’ve got to really make some serious moves if you’re wanting to have at least a WC spot. Otherwise, they become Buffalo.

I personally think they could trade Kasper and not bat an eye. They’ve got plenty of good pieces on their end. 2 of Veleno, Kasper, Buium, and MBN would be nice. MBN is the only reach of what I listed. Didn’t ask about Edvinsson.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Not controversial at all. Would have no problem trading from a position of strength. With Pelletier, coronato, honzek, suniev, battaglia, misa. And stromgren, klapka, and gridin, i would have no problem dealing one of them for a comparable c or part if a bigger trade. Anderson plus pelts, coronato or someone else would probably fetch the center we havent been able to land to this point.

You could add Basha to your list as well.

That said, even if you include Basha, Coronato Klapka and Misa are the only RHS forwards in the system and Klapka doesn’t appear to be a guy who’s going to fit in the top 6. I don’t think RW, true RW, is a position of strength at all. At the moment, Coronato might be the only RHS winger with top 6 potential in the organization.

On the other hand, the Flames have a glut of LHS forwards in the system and on the team (Zary, Coleman, Huberdeau, Sharagovich, Honzek, Mantha). There’s not enough room for them all. I think it’s far more likely we’ll see some of these guys, including the prospects above, moved before next years training camp.

[Bonded]

Coronato will get his chance again. Honzek is probably getting sent down when he is healthy and Mantha and Kuzmenko will be gone at some point this season.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Coronato will get his chance again. Honzek is probably getting sent down when he is healthy and Mantha and Kuzmenko will be gone at some point this season.

I think you’re right.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Pelletier is part of a deal this year. He’s certainly a buy low candidate and I don’t see a path for him here.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

His agent has been retweeting a few X posts criticizing the Flames sending him down.

People are using that to correlate that Coronato is pissed off.

I read the re-tweets. Certainly comes across that his agent wasn’t a fan of the mantha signing.

About the only way I see Coronato or any other prospect being recalled any time soon , is if there is an injury. Trades rarely happen at this time of year.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If we're talking trade with Detroit, I would say Danielson is off the table, and Edvinsson, ASP, Cossa, and Kasper are probably a no-go as well. They have an incredible prospect base though, and here are a few other ideas:

-W Michael Brandsegg-Nygard: I love this kid, and I wouldn't think Detroit would be interested in giving him up either. He's a 6'1", 207lb speedster who also plays a physical game with some bite. Drafted 15th-overall this past summer.
-Liam Dower Nilsson (21 yo) and Noah Dower-Nilsson (19 yo): Both can play C or W, both are excellent 3-zone players with speed, both are 6'0" tall, both have a chip on their shoulder, and both can provide offense.
-RW Jesse Kiiskinen (19 yo): Aquired from the Preds, he's doing well so far in Finland's top-tier Liiga, with 16 points in 18 games- the top U20 player in that circuit. Loved him in his draft year. He's 6'1" (6'2", according to hockeydb), and plays a hard-nosed, energetic game. Good skater, with an excellent shot.
-C Max Plante: 5'11",176lb pivot, selected this summer in the second round. He's a gifted playmaker, and plays well in all 3 zones.
-LD William Wallinder: 6'4" rearguard who is a good puck-rusher with great skating ability, and a quality puck-mover.
-LD Shai Buium: 6'3", 220lb blueliner who displays mobility, physicality, and a solid two-way game. Has a high ceiling.
-LW Dmitri Buchelnikov (21 yo): He's not big (5'10"), but he put up astronomical numbers in his draft year as an overager (41 goals and 75 points in 56 MHL games), and has 16 points in 19 KHL games this year. Gifted with a high skill level, and is dynamic 1-on-1, even though he's not an elite skater. Excellent shot, and a top-notch offensive player.
-G Trey Augustine (19 yo): 2nd-rounder from 2023, he's 1.60 GAA, and .939 SV% in 5 NCAA games.

The Flames do not need wingers, dmen or goalies so I would pass myself. Either pony up the center or don’t make the deal.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Flames do not need wingers, dmen or goalies so I would pass myself. Either pony up the center or don’t make the deal.

Not so sure about this.

You need to continually look for good players. Especially where the Flames are in their rebuild. Also, not all of the Flames prospects will play in the NHL and even fewer of them will be top 6.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If we're talking trade with Detroit, I would say Danielson is off the table, and Edvinsson, ASP, Cossa, and Kasper are probably a no-go as well. They have an incredible prospect base though, and here are a few other ideas:

-W Michael Brandsegg-Nygard: I love this kid, and I wouldn't think Detroit would be interested in giving him up either. He's a 6'1", 207lb speedster who also plays a physical game with some bite. Drafted 15th-overall this past summer.
-Liam Dower Nilsson (21 yo) and Noah Dower-Nilsson (19 yo): Both can play C or W, both are excellent 3-zone players with speed, both are 6'0" tall, both have a chip on their shoulder, and both can provide offense.
-RW Jesse Kiiskinen (19 yo): Aquired from the Preds, he's doing well so far in Finland's top-tier Liiga, with 16 points in 18 games- the top U20 player in that circuit. Loved him in his draft year. He's 6'1" (6'2", according to hockeydb), and plays a hard-nosed, energetic game. Good skater, with an excellent shot.
-C Max Plante: 5'11",176lb pivot, selected this summer in the second round. He's a gifted playmaker, and plays well in all 3 zones.
-LD William Wallinder: 6'4" rearguard who is a good puck-rusher with great skating ability, and a quality puck-mover.
-LD Shai Buium: 6'3", 220lb blueliner who displays mobility, physicality, and a solid two-way game. Has a high ceiling.
-LW Dmitri Buchelnikov (21 yo): He's not big (5'10"), but he put up astronomical numbers in his draft year as an overager (41 goals and 75 points in 56 MHL games), and has 16 points in 19 KHL games this year. Gifted with a high skill level, and is dynamic 1-on-1, even though he's not an elite skater. Excellent shot, and a top-notch offensive player.
-G Trey Augustine (19 yo): 2nd-rounder from 2023, he's 1.60 GAA, and .939 SV% in 5 NCAA games.

Believe young players that Yzerman didn’t draft might be the best targets in any potential deal with Detroit. Meaning players that holland drafted in 2018 and prior. Apart from the “Wizard”, most GMs tend to fall in love with the prospects they drafted and are reluctant to trade. However, a player that previous regimes drafted don’t have that connection. That puts any target that hits this criteria at the cusp of the age range that we are looking for as Hollands last draft was 2018. So a Veleno might be the most attractive/attainable asset the wings might be able to part with.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Controversial opinion, but I would be fine trading Coronato if it brought in a young C that was worth a damn. Same with Pelletier, but I don't see him having much value.

Not sure I love the idea of moving Coronato when there is already a stigma that young American born players don't want to be here.

[Bingo]

I think the second you start managing players based on them not being pissed off you've completely caved into the inferiority complex of the market and you're toast.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Flames do not need wingers, dmen or goalies so I would pass myself. Either pony up the center or don’t make the deal.

If Andersson is traded, Calgary certain needs high end dmen. Sure they have lots of depth, but not much that's expected top play top 4 of a contender when we get that far. perhaps two prospects that currently project to be, but that is always far from certain.

Calgary needs high end talent anywhere it can fund is, although centre is clearly the most important need. But it's not centre or bust.+

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by sch19lks

An agent wouldn’t do something like that without the blessing of his client

I used to think this but I’ve come to think there’s probably only a sliver of truth in it. Coronato is probably disappointed in being sent down (makes sense why) and so his agent is making a little bit of noise to “go to bat” for his client, considering there’s not much beyond that they can do without asking out.

I seriously doubt any agent is passing retweets by their client for approval.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think the second you start managing players based on them not being pissed off you've completely caved into the inferiority complex of the market and you're toast.

Exactly.

Also, and I believe Conroy has been up front about this, players need to earn their jobs. Wolf went through something similar last year and Pelletier is also going through it this year.

Coronato should be pissed. That’s a good thing. He may spend time down there but I bet he’s full time by end of year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Exactly.

Also, and I believe Conroy has been up front about this, players need to earn their jobs. Wolf went through something similar last year and Pelletier is also going through it this year.

Coronato should be pissed. That’s a good thing. He may spend time down there but I bet he’s full time by end of year.

Coronato and Honzek did earn jobs, but they both need to play.

I was on board of sending them both down until we traded Kuzmenko and Mantha. The team instead rewarded them both by sticking around. Honzek got injured making a rookie mistake, and Coronato got lost in the shuffle.

Maybe the messaging is off, who knows.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Coronato and Honzek did earn jobs, but they both need to play.

I was on board of sending them both down until we traded Kuzmenko and Mantha. The team instead rewarded them both by sticking around. Honzek got injured making a rookie mistake, and Coronato got lost in the shuffle.

Maybe the messaging is off, who knows.

It is all about what the team thinks is best development wise for them. Neither of them were making it hard to avoid sending them down. Coronato has struggled to be effective against NHLers. If he is a top 6 or bust guy then the Flames need to trade Mantha and Kuzmenko before he can get an extended run at a top 6 spot again.