The Last Jedi Spoiler thread

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

My list and why

The Empire Strikes Back -
9/10

A New Hope -
8/10

Rogue One -
7.75/10

The Force Awakens -
7.5/10

The Return of the Jedi -
7/10

Revenge of the Sith -
6/10

TLJ -
6/10

The Phantom Menace -
4.5/10

Attack of the Clones - .
4/10

This is basically my list too, except I would have to give TLJ a failing grade. In a vacuum, it's barely an alright movie. As a Star Wars movie, and part 8 of the saga, it's an abject failure.

Also, I'd probably rank Clones above Phantom Menace, but that's neither here nor there because both are bad.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Episode III was on TV right before Christmas, and I ended up watching it for the first time since I saw it in the theatre. I own all the blurays, but I've never watched them as I like to pretend that the prequels don't exist.

My verdict: it's still a terrible film. Not quite as bad as I or II, but it's still a cringe-inducing piece of crap with awful dialogue and bad acting (mostly courtesy of Hayden Christensen). Not to mention Lucas' over-reliance on CGI makes the film look way too cartoon-ish, and it really doesn't hold up very well. Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman are both very good actors, and they do what they can with the dialogue. But in the end you just feel sorry for them. Personally I think TLJ is a far superior film in every way.

Yeah it's the best of the prequels so it seems like it gets way too much leeway because of that, but it's still not a good movie. So potential doesn't make it a good movie. I am also surprised how highly some people rate Rouge One. While an entertaining movie it was a bit of a mess.

[Jordan!]

Things I didn't care for:

-Flying Leia
-The thing about it "being worth it" on Canto bight then Rose taking off a saddle and saying "Now it's worth it" (I actually enjoy that part of the story otherwise)
-Luke not having his green Saber at the end
-Milk Titties

I have seen it 4 times, and nostalgia for the OT aside.. as a film. It is my favorite Star Wars

[#-3]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Episode III was on TV right before Christmas, and I ended up watching it for the first time since I saw it in the theatre. I own all the blurays, but I've never watched them as I like to pretend that the prequels don't exist.

My verdict: it's still a terrible film. Not quite as bad as I or II, but it's still a cringe-inducing piece of crap with awful dialogue and bad acting (mostly courtesy of Hayden Christensen). Not to mention Lucas' over-reliance on CGI makes the film look way too cartoon-ish, and it really doesn't hold up very well. Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman are both very good actors, and they do what they can with the dialogue. But in the end you just feel sorry for them. Personally I think TLJ is a far superior film in every way.

I was scrolling down the thread just for the chance to post this.

I watched most of it on Christmas, bad acting, unmotivated characters, just bad.

[Tinordi]

People Episode III was terrible. Like, so bad Let's not lose our minds here because you don't like that Grand Moof Smoke doesn't have a detailed backstory before he dies after five minutes of screen time.

[Magnum PEI]

Revenge of the Sith is completely awful. The other two have some redeeming qualities (though still arent that great). Revenge only seems better because it has a darker tone, almost every scene is laughable.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

There’s a lot to discuss with regards to TLJ but one thing I can say for sure is that I liked TFA and Rogue One way better.

In fact, save for the stupid scene with on the ship with Han and Chewie and the gangs and the monsters, and the fact that the screen time instead should have been used for exposition and character development, like the scene in IV where they talk while travelling to Alderan, I really, really liked TFA.

I thought TLJ was ok but I have no real desire to watch it again after seeing it twice in theatres. There was some good but way too much stuff missed the mark.


Oh and the prequels are next level bad. I get nerd rage every time someone suggests the viewing order should be IV, I, II, III, V, VI (or whatever it is).

Why you’d interrupt three amazing movies by enduring 6 hours of torture in between that, which literally ruins the originals when watched in that order, is beyond me.

[White Out 403]

I still haven't watched the original series since I saw them in the theaters originally, I don't plan on changing that. As far as I'm concerned those movies aren't Canon and the original film that they're made on can be shot into the ####ing Sun

[zamler]

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[White Out 403]

Wait. I was voice to texting. I meant episodes 1 to 3.

456 are of course fantastic

[zamler]

Oh, whew thought you'd lost it for a second.

[Max Cow Disease]

I don’t agree with the firm lashing that some are giving III. It’s rated and reviewed a good margin better than the other two prequel movies on essentially every website, which is for good reason if you ask me. Fans and critics both received it well compared to its prequel predecessors. It retained some of the “quirks” of the other two, sure, but was still better. I mean, if we’re comparing any of these flicks to Shawshank Redemption or something...yeah, sure, they’re all awful I suppose, but with something like Star Wars we have to assess things on somewhat of a relative basis.

I still love that opera scene. Despite some campy acting by McDairmid in RotS, I loved him throughout the prequels. I also really enjoy the eerie sunset scene as Anakin’s making his final decision to go down the tubes of darkness.

...The “flying Leia” moment of that movie for me, however, was “nooooooooooooooo!!!”. Not only did it damper the conclusion of III itself, but was later used by a maniacal Lucas to retroactively pollute the conclusion of VI as well. Egregious.

[GreenLantern]

I'm honestly glad that a lot of the public responded to tlj this way. I thought it was a great movie but I did have to ignore the holes to get there. So with the public backlash it got that meansepislde 9 will be pushed to be that much better and I should enjoy it even more.

My list is similar to caps except I liked tlj more than revenge of the sith.

[CliffFletcher]

The Tatooine parts of Return of the Jedi were great. The parts on Endor were lame.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I'm honestly glad that a lot of the public responded to tlj this way. I thought it was a great movie but I did have to ignore the holes to get there. So with the public backlash it got that meansepislde 9 will be pushed to be that much better and I should enjoy it even more.

My list is similar to caps except I liked tlj more than revenge of the sith.

I'm fairly worried about the opposite.

I liked this one quite a bit, and I think most of the fan outrage is directed at them not tying in stupid little back stories and Easter Eggs that would have derailed the movie more.

For me I really hope they don't listen to the masses and keep doing what they've done in VII & VIII.

For example I hope in the lead up to IX everyone becomes really invested in the slave kid at the end with the resistance medallion that seemingly force pulled the broom to himself then stared off into the stars, and then they just do nothing with that thread. My feeling is the fans will demand that boy was Anakin reincarnate who came back to do it right this time or something stupid like that, and it would be much better for them to just leave it and say the galaxy is a big magical place.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Tatooine parts of Return of the Jedi were great. The parts on Endor were lame.

[Simanium]

Finally got around to seeing TLJ. I can't believe how terrible it was, I kept waiting for some real story to develop and it never happened. It's like they basically have taken bits and pieces of past movies and combined it into these new ones. If it wasn't Star Wars and my hope that the movie would get better, I would have walked out of the theatre half way through.

[zamler]

Revenge is sitting at 65% on RT, TLJ 50% audience score. The "professional" reviewers are totally to lunch at 90%. Paid off or something.

[calgarywinning]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Should be changed from Spoiler Thread to bashing thread. We basically saw Luke come back as a bad ass Jedi. We got to see an unconstructed Death Star. Speeders and great storm trooper outfits. Countless great moments. The conclusion and answers to our questions.

As terrible as Phantom Menace was, we did get to see the origins of C3P0 and some cool ships. Some great acting by Ewan. A pretty cool lightsaber fight. Doesn't anyone look at the positive upside?

As far as the new movie, i'm neither here nor there about it. There were some great moments and surprises. I think we are all a little watered down to the magic that was Star Wars because it's no longer a magic trick, like it once was.

When Spielberg did Jurassic Park that was a defining moment... because the magic was how they brought dinosaurs to life on the big screen. The story by Michael Crichton was so much better then the movie, but the movie brought the dinosaurs to life. The Jurassic series is just another movie about the same Jurassic #### going astray.

[LouCypher]

I enjoyed this movie the first time and the 2nd viewing was even better for me. One thing though I find is that maybe with so many Star Wars stories out there now with different people creating different stories is that my Star Wars isnt always your Star Wars and vice versa. I find similar things with Star Trek, some of it I really love some I just cant stand. I really do enjoy Luke Skywalkers role in TLJ, for me it was like finally getting to see what he has been up to and seeing just the depth that he isn't just some legend, he is a real person to. Being a Jedi to me isn't always about being good or being right, its about the struggle to be better for those around you. I thought the movie really took this point to another level.