The Walking Dead TV show only thread- Part II ***See spoiler rules in first post***

[darockwilder]

I thought it had to be a dream sequence when Carl came out of hiding and started blasting people. The way he was yelling at people seemed so ridiculous and phoney.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by darockwilder

I thought it had to be a dream sequence when Carl came out of hiding and started blasting people. The way he was yelling at people seemed so ridiculous and phoney.

Nope, that's just Coral being a bad actor.

[Fuzz]

I couldn't figure out the end game here. Surly he knew going in if he shot Negan he would probably die. So then he sees Negan, and doesn't shoot him? All that work just to quit? WTF Coral? Rick didn't raise you to be a quitter! Follow through!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I couldn't figure out the end game here. Surly he knew going in if he shot Negan he would probably die. So then he sees Negan, and doesn't shoot him? All that work just to quit? WTF Coral? Rick didn't raise you to be a quitter! Follow through!

Speaking of following through, its also good advice for your baseball swing.

[Iggy_12]

The preview shows Negan with blood on him and rick in shambles, editing trick or we in for another lucille bashing?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by RW99

He treats the women and children differently I dont see him killing Carl.

The woman from the camp that Tara found said he killed all the guys over 10 years old.

Originally Posted by Iggy_12

The preview shows Negan with blood on him and rick in shambles, editing trick or we in for another lucille bashing?

I might not be remembering it accurately, but the blood on Negan appeared as though it may have come from shaving his beard.

[Wormius]

Why did Carl say that's Negan couldn't kill him or Rick or Darryl?

[bubbsy]

Karls dead is my prediction

[photon]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Why did Carl say that's Negan couldn't kill him or Rick or Darryl?

Bravado of a kid combined with the fact that no one has been able to yet.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Why did Carl say that's Negan couldn't kill him or Rick or Darryl?

I think he's using the logic that since he hasn't, he doesn't have the balls

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I think he's using the logic that since he hasn't, he doesn't have the balls

I wonder if Glenn or Abraham disagree

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by photon

Bravado of a kid combined with the fact that no one has been able to yet.

I got a different vibe from it. As if Carl realized something in that moment, and why Negan hadn't just killed them. I don't think he was implying that Carl, Rick, et al are too crafty to be killed, but more that he realized that something was actually preventing Negan from doing it. I don't think Negan truly cares about what kind of good soldiers these guys are going to make. I just thought the way that Carl said it, it meant that he was calling Negan's bluff, whatever that is.

[photon]

Maybe, that might be reading too much into it though.

I want to know who gave Daryl the note. Why did it have a match and a key? "Go now" is more than just a "here I'm helping you escape". It's a "something is going to happen go before it starts".

[Wormius]

CARL:"Why haven’t you killed me?"
NEGAN: "You're a smart kid, what do you think I should do? You know I can't let you go. Do I kill you, iron your face or chop off your arm?"
CARL: "You should jump out the window to save me the trouble of killing you"
NEGAN: "There's the kid that impressed the hell out of me"
CARL: "You're not saying because you aren't going to do anything. If you knew us or anything, you would kill us, but you can't"

For reference, this is the line and the way Carl delivered it, which had me questioning if Carl knew why Negan wasn't able to kill them.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by photon

Maybe, that might be reading too much into it though.

I want to know who gave Daryl the note. Why did it have a match and a key? "Go now" is more than just a "here I'm helping you escape". It's a "something is going to happen go before it starts".

I want to say it was Ninja Jesus, but I'm not sure how he'd know exactly where Darryl is. So the other option has to be either Dwight or his wife.

[Stud_McCool]

Negan is hilarious! That is all.

[djsFlames]

It would makes sense that Negan would take Judith back with him. Probably gets the wives to take care of her.

I don't think he kills Carl. But Carl knows (sorta) where he's located, and Negan said before that it makes no sense to let him go. So he's needs some other kind of leverage to prevent any surprise attacks, and Judith would provide that. Also if he tried to walk out of Alexandria on his own someone surely would take the chance to just kill him right there while isolated from his people. If he's carrying Judith? That's a free ticket as well as leverage.

I think Spencer is the one that meets Lucile, or dies in some fashion. Negan will demand a sacrifice from them for Carl's actions and either him or Rick must choose who gets it.

Or it's just an eeny meeny miny moe scenario again... I dunno.

I probably put too much thought into a show that isn't that intelligent or calculated in its plot developments to begin with and relies on shock/gore to keep people's attention.

But I guess it's fun for sunday nights while GOT is on hiatus.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Just my own personal theory, but I think Negan views Carl as a potential protege. There doesn't seem to be any children in the right age range around him (old enough to understand yet still impressionable), and even fewer with the experiences that Carl has gone through, dealing with the world as it is now. I think he sees the potential to slowly manipulate Carl, turning him to the dark side (oh crap...now I'm off track ). Who knows if Carl can be converted or not, but I think Negan is going to try. In the end, Negan's ego is so big that I'm sure he wants a successor to his empire after he dies, otherwise it will be all for naught in his eyes.

Carl is now a bit of a disgruntled teen with black and white views on the world and a penchant for aggressiveness and violence. It's just the sort of kid who Negan can mould to fit in his world.

[Wormius]

Whoever left the note for Daryl might have known that Negan and Carl left alone. There might be a good chance that they know Negan would be vulnerable by himself and ripe for assassination, so it would be best for Daryl to get out of there before the crap hits the fan. I don't think Negan with Judith would do much. Best case is he's carrying her when he's shot and drops her. Worst case is probably bad. I don't think they would show that.

Also if anybody gets it, I think it's probably Olivia.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I couldn't figure out the end game here. Surly he knew going in if he shot Negan he would probably die. So then he sees Negan, and doesn't shoot him? All that work just to quit? WTF Coral? Rick didn't raise you to be a quitter! Follow through!

I thought it was an entertaining episode but it did bug me that he had a singular goal to get to the hideout and kill Negan yet for the 2nd time with a gun in hand and Negan in plain site he doesn't follow through. What exactly is the point of risking your life to kill him if you aren't going to go through with it when you are presented with the exact opportunity on a silver platter?

It seems like Negan is a jerk to everyone so I'm not sure why anyone would fear repercussions from taking him out as outside of Trevor maybe I don't see anyone that would take vengeance out on his killers.