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Old 04-20-2015, 06:45 PM   #841
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They have? They have done nothing post-Staal.
They have the 2nd best record in the league since 2010 (behind Chicago only). Yeah, they have still been pretty damn good.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:58 PM   #842
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Hall-McDavid-Eberle
Pouliot-RNH-Yakupov
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xxx-Draisaitl-xxx

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The whole media recap that I've heard over the past few days is that everyone is saying that this team is going to be a modern day dynasty....dont know what that means in number of Stanley Cups...

Their main reasoning for this is that all of these players are young together and will all play together throughout their primes....so imagine all of them in 5 years when they are all 23-29 years old....or something like that...one of the teams they compared them to were the Avalanche with Sakic and Forsberg....

TBH, my opinion on all this is that McDavid is going to be a superstar player....nothing is going to stop him from being that....I think RNH is a really good centremen and playing behind McDavid will make him even better....Oiler fans have the right to be as excited about Draisaitl as much as we do about Bennett....

If I was Oilers GM, I would trade Eberle for a decent dman and try to sign a UFA goalie like the Flames signed Hiller....

I look at that team and McDavid completely changes the entire team just because of what he simply provides by pushing everyone else down the depth chart....that just makes them better....Draisaitl is going to be lining up against 3rd line centres during his career....if he pans out....thats just ridiculous potential.

Some depth moves....a couple top 4 dmen and a goalie....that team in 2-3 years looks to be pretty good....on paper atleast.

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Old 04-20-2015, 07:00 PM   #843
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Has a "generational" talent ever busted. I'm not saying that is the case here, but has it happened?
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Old 04-20-2015, 07:08 PM   #844
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Has a "generational" talent ever busted. I'm not saying that is the case here, but has it happened?
Alexandre Daigle.

Ottawa intentionally tanked to get him, and he was awful.

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In addition to my previous post....this completely changes the dynamic of the Oilers because of the MASSIVE impact that it has on the depth chart....

McDavid is a generational, elite 1st line centre.
RNH is a great 1st line centre but an elite 2nd line centre.
Draisaitl was projected to be a great 2nd line centre but is an elite 3rd line centre.

Based on depth chart alone, it completely changes the dynamic of the Oilers. In Taylor Hall, the Oilers already have one of the best LWers in the game points-wise over the past few years. Maybe McDavid will help cover his weaknesses and make him play smarter....you have 2 potential 90+ point players there alone.

RNH is no slouch at scoring either and Yakupov/Draisaitl are still young. Overnight the Oilers went from having a middling Centre depth where I would take Monahan/Bennett over RNH/Draisaitl to having one of the best centre depth chart in the league potentially over the next few years. These guys are still 22, 19, 18 years old.....give them 5 years and they'll be 27,24,23 in their primes. As a Flames fan, it's goddamn scary...

I've never had anything bad to say about RNH because he's a terrific centreman.

It's ####ing bull#### and hockey gods don't exist because we have to put up with this #### again. It feels like the ####ing 80s all over again.

What the #### did the Oilers do to deserve this? They won the ####ing lottery. That team has the biggest horseshoe stuck up their ass.

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Old 04-20-2015, 07:13 PM   #846
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In addition to my previous post....this completely changes the dynamic of the Oilers because of the MASSIVE impact that it has on the depth chart....

McDavid is a generational, elite 1st line centre.
RNH is a great 1st line centre but an elite 2nd line centre.
Draisaitl was projected to be a great 2nd line centre but is an elite 3rd line centre.

Based on depth chart alone, it completely changes the dynamic of the Oilers. In Taylor Hall, the Oilers already have one of the best LWers in the game points-wise over the past few years. Maybe McDavid will help cover his weaknesses and make him play smarter....you have 2 potential 90+ point players there alone.

RNH is no slouch at scoring either and Yakupov/Draisaitl are still young. Overnight the Oilers went from having a middling Centre depth where I would take Monahan/Bennett over RNH/Draisaitl to having one of the best centre depth chart in the league potentially over the next few years. These guys are still 22, 19, 18 years old.....give them 5 years and they'll be 27,24,23 in their primes. As a Flames fan, it's goddamn scary...

I've never had anything bad to say about RNH because he's a terrific centreman.

It's ####ing bull#### and hockey gods don't exist because we have to put up with this #### again. It feels like the ####ing 80s all over again.

What the #### did the Oilers do to deserve this? They won the ####ing lottery. That team has the biggest horseshoe stuck up their ass.
Unlike the 80s you now need good defensemen to win in the NHL. The oilers will continue to ice an AHL level defense and they won't really get that much better. Even more than that, the forwards have to commit to defense too, and so far none of the other first overalls have shown any competence toward that. I guess Hopkins hasn't been terrible, but he hasn't been great at it either, and he's never even been tested on it in any meaningful NHL games.
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I don't disagree they have a lot of depth, but how are they going to keep everyone together with a salary cap? I can't see any of them taking a hometown discount, not for Edmonton. McDavid could very well be offer sheeted max dollars when he hits rfa. You have all the other guys making 6+ million. Where's the money left for any defence?
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I’m always amazed these sportscasters and announcers can call the game with McDavid’s **** in their mouths all the time.
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Old 04-20-2015, 07:45 PM   #850
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They have the 2nd best record in the league since 2010 (behind Chicago only). Yeah, they have still been pretty damn good.
When you have Crosby and Malkin success is measured in Stanley Cups (which they haven't had a sniff of for a long while now).
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Old 04-20-2015, 07:56 PM   #851
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Ugh. That poor kid. Can he claim sanctuary and hide out in a church basement somewhere until this all blows over?
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:32 AM   #852
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Some in Edmonton are drinking the strong-aid, talking about the miracle McDavid cure for everything and anything. Players and coaches around the league will be lining up to join the mighty oil
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Some in Edmonton are drinking the strong-aid, talking about the miracle McDavid cure for everything and anything. Players and coaches around the league will be lining up to join the mighty oil
I don't think coaches think too much about individual players when they sign on. Nor do players (except maybe to think, I guess I won't be getting that number one centre slot, or I'd like to play with him but it looks like the wings are taken). It's all dollars and term and roster spot.

When Crosby was drafted what UFAs did Pittsburgh attract?
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:37 AM   #854
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It is very hard these days for any player to score more than a point per game. I think only 6-8 players did that this year.

I don't think McDavid, or anyone, can greatly outscore the competition.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:52 AM   #855
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Pittsburgh has Crosby and another top 10 player in Malkin and they've won absolutely nothing since Sid and Malkin signed big contracts (last won in 2008-9). Nothing demonstrates that having a superstar offensive player means you win in the playoffs. Where in their budget is goaltending and an entire first pairing of dmen?

Edmonton was already a cap team with crap dmen and goaltending. How is that being fixed by acquiring a cheap C? That's the big question. Turning their expensive wingers into dmen and goalies.

Seems like they already missed that window that Chicago and Pittsburgh caught of having cheap elite talent to go with good veterans.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:53 AM   #856
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It is very hard these days for any player to score more than a point per game. I think only 6-8 players did that this year.

I don't think McDavid, or anyone, can greatly outscore the competition.
I agree that it is much more difficult to separate yourself from the pack - the league is too deep. And there is too much video.

The other issue is the cap. When you get a player of a Crosby, Ovechkin or Toews level, you have to pay them. And that gives you less cash for the rest of the team.

Parity - it's a thing.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:54 AM   #857
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We should offer sheet him like 20 million. Pretty sure the Oilers will match. Seriously though, I hope someone offers sheets him a ridiculous amount.
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Let's wait and see how they manage to acquire 2 dmen and contender-worthy goalie from their surplus of forwards before we declare their problems fixed. Cap team with many holes to fill that didn't really include center. Considering MacT didn't want to trade any of his "core", let's see what magic he can do. I don't see an Islanders approach as possible given their cap situation.

Seems to me that they might just become similar to the current version of the Pens having missed the window that saw the Pens win in 2008-9 when they had Malkin and Crosby on cheap contracts.
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If the Oilers have any sort of success with McDavid before his ELC ends he will be signed before his ELC ends.

There will be no offer sheets.
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