Western Conf Playoffs - Round 1: Flames vs. Hughson's Canucks (Flames lead 3-2)

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Farhan Lalji‏@FarhanLaljiTSN2m2 minutes ago

Willie on Sedin's ice time: "There's no sense burning them out in 1 game. They'll be fresh for the next game and maybe that will pay off"

Wow. If I was a GM I would not want to hear that from my head coach as a seven game series really isn't that long and every single game matters. It's like Willie is saying they don't feel they need to go all out against the Flames to win the series so he's taking it easy on the Sedins to save them for the next round. Just losing that game last night adds one more game the Sedins would have to play it they were to make it out of the series. Stupid statement.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by RedMileDJ

From my personal experience, most people in Saskatchewan and Manitoba are cheering for the Jets. Might be split in Saskatchewan.

I know the Canucks were well liked in Winnipeg before they got the Jets back but not anymore. All of my family and friends from there hate them now.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

That's hilarious. If playing the Sedins for 16 minutes at even strength instead of the 12-13 they got last night is going to "burn them out", I'd say the Canucks are basically screwed and this series might as well be over already.

As for the Manitoba thing, a lot of the Canucks players are ex-Manitoba Moose from their AHL days, so that might explain some of it.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Farhan Lalji‏@FarhanLaljiTSN2m2 minutes ago

Willie on Sedin's ice time: "There's no sense burning them out in 1 game. They'll be fresh for the next game and maybe that will pay off"

Maybe Canuck fans are onto something with their complaints about being outcoached. The only dangerous offensive chances the Canucks got were when the Sedins were on the ice. If Willie couldn't recognize that and give them more shifts in the 3rd, especially after the Flames tied it up, then he may be in over his head. How often have we seen Hartley ride the crap out of Monahan and co. when they're rolling?

Having a gameplan to spread the minutes out is good, but as a coach if you can't adapt and change that gameplan when you need to you're gonna have a bad time

[dammage79]

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson 1m1 minute ago
Canucks coach Desjardins on #Flames D Kris Russell: "He's always been that player that when the game is on the line, he's playing hard."

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson 17s17 seconds ago
Desjardins coached #Flames D Kris Russell with WHL's Medicine Hat Tigers: "He always had such a great heart and he's such a great skater."

Is Willie D trying to kill the Flames with kindness? This is so weird these nice things coming out of Vancouvers side. So used to Vigneult singing to the gods about all of the atrocities piling up at the Canucks gates.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson 1m1 minute ago
Canucks coach Desjardins on #Flames D Kris Russell: "He's always been that player that when the game is on the line, he's playing hard."

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson 17s17 seconds ago
Desjardins coached #Flames D Kris Russell with WHL's Medicine Hat Tigers: "He always had such a great heart and he's such a great skater."

Is Willie D trying to kill the Flames with kindness? This is so weird these nice things coming out of Vancouvers side. So used to Vigneult singing to the gods about all of the atrocities piling up at the Canucks gates.

He's no Pat Quinn (biggest whiner of a head coach ever) that's for sure. I think he's just being respectful as that seems to be his character. I realize that Canucks fans are all over him for his game management and you can certainly question it after a close loss but that game management did get them to 100 points so you can't really fault him for going with what got them there which was rolling four lines. That said the playoffs is all about which team makes the best adjustments so it will be interesting to see how rigid he is going to be with rolling 4 lines as we all know Hartley shortens the bench in the 3rd period in pretty well any close game. I certainly don't expect Hartley to be thinking down the road with his game management of players as it's all about winning the game at hand with him.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by RedMileDJ

From my personal experience, most people in Saskatchewan and Manitoba are cheering for the Jets. Might be split in Saskatchewan.

Spoiler!

Again, I think the results are skewed since there are more people from BC working in Saskatchewan than people from Southern Alberta or Winnipeg.

[Erick Estrada]

The Canucks are the first Canadian team to make the Stanley Cup finals that were not overwhelmingly supported by Canadians. A large portion of Canadians were cheering for the Bruins and I expect if they did do a regional poll that most Canadians would prefer the Flames to win as nobody outside of BC really likes the Canucks at all.

[IntenseFan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

They're complaining the tying goal should have been offside? I didn't think it left the zone. Surprised they went with THAT as their complaint...

I wasn't going to say anything about the officiating, but since THEY are whining (as usual) I should point out that Canuck infractions for hooking, holding, interference, outright high sticks and a many seconds late hit on Russell were all ignored.

Also the centre redline grew several feet for Canuck dump-ins that were called icings when Calgary made the same play.

The Canucks had 3 powerplays to the Flames 1. Very dubious. Nearly all of the Canuck chances came on powerplays.

Canucks and their fans have NO CAUSE whatsoever to complain about the officiating last night.

[FlamesAddiction]

Is that map based on polls from Facebook?

I wouldn't be surprised if it is generally accurate as Oiler fans are likely rooting for the Canucks in this series (I am sure most will change if the Canucks advance).

Quebec City is kind of weird though. I visit there often and find that a lot of people hate the Canadiens. They still carry the rivalry in their blood despite not having the Nords anymore. Surprisingly, I find the Bruins are pretty popular there.

I think the map would be more interesting if there was some overlapping shading because I think a lot of regions (Saskatchewan, Eastern BC and the East Coast) would be close to 50-50. Even when I worked in Northern BC, I found that I was almost as likely to meet a Flames fan as I would be to meet an Oilers or Canucks fan.

[GioforPM]

Saskatchewan fans often go Oiler for some reason (at least until the Jets came along).

[MonahanFan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Canucks are the first Canadian team to make the Stanley Cup finals that were not overwhelmingly supported by Canadians. A large portion of Canadians were cheering for the Bruins and I expect if they did do a regional poll that most Canadians would prefer the Flames to win as nobody outside of BC really likes the Canucks at all.

Yes, that is definitely true. Given the conduct of both the Canucks and Canuck fans during those 2011 finals, I don't even consider British Columbia as a part of Canada anymore. The people there have absolutely no character, integrity, or any redeeming characteristics whatsoever, and I think it's to Canada's shame that we have to constantly defend the actions of Vancouverites globally.

[burn_this_city]

They probably counted 2 or 3 people in Yukon and NWT and extrapolated for the whole area.

[MonahanFan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Saskatchewan fans often go Oiler for some reason (at least until the Jets came along).

I think people are just jealous of Calgary if we're being completely objective. Higher standards of living, lower pollution, second-to-none nightlife, and for the most part, an extremely thriving economy. I think many British Columbians, Saskatchewans, and even Albertans way south of us (Lethbridge, Medicine Hat, etc.). Are all jealous of that and that's why these guys tend to cheer against the Flames and Stampeders in favor of the Canucks, Oilers, Jets Roughriders, and BC Lions.

[FBI]

"maybe that will pay off"

lol, sounding pretty confident there Willie!

[FlamesAddiction]

I think it just has to do with the fact that the Canucks have been around longer and have a monopoly over the whole province of BC. And as much as we make fun of the Oilers trying to live through their glory years, the fact remains that the Gretzky era in Edmonton helped plant their fan base over a wider area. Saskatchewan in particular, with no team of their own, are more likely to jump on and off bandwagons.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Canucks are the first Canadian team to make the Stanley Cup finals that were not overwhelmingly supported by Canadians. A large portion of Canadians were cheering for the Bruins and I expect if they did do a regional poll that most Canadians would prefer the Flames to win as nobody outside of BC really likes the Canucks at all.

Back in 2011, I was in Winnipeg finishing off my college degree. I noticed that even though we had the Canucks farm team (Manitoba Moose), and the majority of fair-weather fans were cheering for Vancouver, since thy were Canadian, all the die-hard fans and knowledgeable hockey fans were going for the Bruins. I am so glad the Bruins won that series. I could not stand the Canucks back then.

[mrkajz44]

The map isn't based on a poll. As stated in the graphic:

"This Canadian Fandom map displays Facebook fans of NHL playoff temas. Each census division is colour coded based on which official Facebook team page has the most likes from People who live there".

So facebook likes for team pages are extrapolated to mean, "this is who people are cheering for in the playoffs". Not really a good method in my opinion.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Is that map based on polls from Facebook?

I wouldn't be surprised if it is generally accurate as Oiler fans are likely rooting for the Canucks in this series (I am sure most will change if the Canucks advance).

Quebec City is kind of weird though. I visit there often and find that a lot of people hate the Canadiens. They still carry the rivalry in their blood despite not having the Nords anymore. Surprisingly, I find the Bruins are pretty popular there.

I think the map would be more interesting if there was some overlapping shading because I think a lot of regions (Saskatchewan, Eastern BC and the East Coast) would be close to 50-50. Even when I worked in Northern BC, I found that I was almost as likely to meet a Flames fan as I would be to meet an Oilers or Canucks fan.

The map is based on facebook "likes" for the official facebook team sites, and what part of Canada are people liking them from.

[Resolute 14]

Not to mention that it demonstrates just how much information about you that Facebook is compiling.