Evander Kane tracksuit saga

[BigFlameDog]

I suspect that any team that trades for him not named Canucks will be dealing with a Pain in the arse. Calgary trading for him is ludicrous.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Actually this thread started out being about what a ######bag Kane is (which I enjoyed reading about because he really is a ######bag) and then it kind of morphed into a "lets do a trade for the ######bag" thread (which started to make me nauseous).

Wrong. It morphed into a "what is Kane worth in a trade" thread. Very few of the trade valuations specifically reference the Flames.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

If he doesn't like playing in a smallish Canadian city with cold winters and the scrutiny of a keenly interested media and public, I doubt Calgary is his dream location.

The correlation is:

• Small
• Canadian
• Cold
• Hockey market
• Intense media scrutiny
• Relative lack of clubs and nightlife compared to some NHL cities

Or to put it another way, can you name five NHL cities that have more in common with Winnipeg than Calgary does? I'll give you Edmonton. And Ottawa. And, uh... St. Paul? Okay, that's three...

Calgary isn't a small market and has more corporate opportunities than 25 or so of the other NHL markets, even with the price of oil at $50/barrel.

[Resolute 14]

Calgary is a small market team.

It is not a small revenue team.

But there is a difference.

[saXon]

Boomer mentioning on theFan 960 that Winnipeg in 'heated' trade talks with Buffalo in regards to Evander Kane.

also...

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by saXon

Boomer mentioning on theFan 960 that Winnipeg in 'heated' trade talks with Buffalo in regards to Evander Kane.

also...

Makes a lot of sense. Sabres help their tank and get a great asset moving forward. Kane can drive to Toronto to party. Jets get rid of locker room jerk and get some help.

Finish the deal Chevy.

[saXon]

[BigRed]

Why now and not summer, Sabres? Oh, right - better for you to get worse than better for the draft. Pathetic.

[BigRed]

Anyway: Buffalo is Winnipeg south. Anyone think Kane's attitude is going to turn around there? Yeah, right.

[The Fonz]

Kane to Buffalo will happen. It makes too much sense for it not to happen.

[Samuelsson]

Trade between these 2 makes beautiful sense, it's almost poetic.

Sabres suck even more for this season in potentially offloading their best D, but by next season they'll (theoretically) be insanely better.

What would the value be on Kane for Myers? Would Winnipeg need to add more, considering some are saying a ROR for Myers straight-up trade would be about equal?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Kane for Myers straight up seems fair for both. Winnipeg would probably want to expand it as they have too many dmen and need another forward with Kane gone. Maybe Winnipeg will be the destination for Stewart or Stafford?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Calgary is a small market team.

It is not a small revenue team.

But there is a difference.

The whole size of market issue is a red herring. In media and pure population terms, all Canadian markets, with the exception of Toronto, are small markets. When culture is added to the equation the Canadian cities are the biggest markets in the league. Canadians love and watch hockey. An estimated 80 percent of Canadians watch hockey. According to Gallup only 31 percent of Americans say the same. Those stats say a lot about the potential market size, especially in the southern regions which are considered non-traditional markets for the game. The sport is slowly growing, but it isn't even close to competing with any of the Canadian markets.

[Vinny01]

One of their late first round picks, Joel Armia, and Stafford or Stewart is about as good as it gets for the Jets. They add a first in a deep draft, get a player that helps them now, and a prospect who is close.

Buffalo gets closer to securing the top 2 pick they need and get a forward who will play on their top line next year when they hope to be more competitive. Sabres fans can already get excited about one of McEichel and Kane on their roster in October

[Samuelsson]

I think if it were Kane for Myers then Winnipeg would want to expand as they're losing a winger for another D, where Byfuglien will be playing full-time from next year.

to BUF

Kane and Stuart/Harrison/Clitty

to WPG

Myers and Stewart

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

One of their late first round picks, Joel Armia, and Stafford or Stewart is about as good as it gets for the Jets. They add a first in a deep draft, get a player that helps them now, and a prospect who is close.

Buffalo gets closer to securing the top 2 pick they need and get a forward who will play on their top line next year when they hope to be more competitive. Sabres fans can already get excited about one of McEichel and Kane on their roster in October

If Jets can get that offer right now they should take it. I don't think they can get much better in the off season. Deal helps them in the future and a player like Stafford could put them over the hump on making playoffs this year.

[Chingas]

Kane to Buffalloe will make me happy . That will mean that we unfortunately miss out on Kane.

[Samuelsson]

gary lawless ‏garylawless 1m1 minute ago
hearing the deal being framed between #nhljets and #sabres is multi-player on both ends. So E Kane and more from Winnipeg

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Calgary isn't a small market and has more corporate opportunities than 25 or so of the other NHL markets, even with the price of oil at $50/barrel.

What does that have to do with the social life of a professional athlete? Because that's what we're talking about here. It's safe to say that if Kane (and other players) don't want to play in Winnipeg, it's because they'd prefer to play somewhere bigger, warmer, and more cosmopolitan. Calgary is marginally better than Winnipeg in those respects, but it's no New York, Chicago, LA, or Miami. Corporate opportunities and standards of living for working joes are irrelevant.

[TapeToTape]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

What does that have to do with the social life of a professional athlete? Because that's what we're talking about here. It's safe to say that if Kane (and other players) don't want to play in Winnipeg, it's because they'd prefer to play somewhere bigger, warmer, and more cosmopolitan. Calgary is marginally better than Winnipeg in those respects, but it's no New York, Chicago, LA, or Miami. Corporate opportunities and standards of living for working joes are irrelevant.

Better to say small city rather than small market then.