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Old 12-12-2013, 02:01 PM   #841
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:01 PM   #842
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All I can say about Jay's firing is, it's about time. He was a screw up from the start.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:04 PM   #843
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the tone has really changed around here since the O'Reilly debacle...
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:05 PM   #844
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I am happy to see Feaster gone, I don't think he could manage assets properly or patiently. Burke may not be patient but he will not make a deal if we don't get something decent in return.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:06 PM   #845
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really? offer sheet to ROR, Flames would have lost the pick and had to put him on waivers as per the CBA if Colorado hadn't matched
Please read the following for a legal perspective. Also the NHLPA would have grieved the waiver ruling on behalf of the player and the Flames, and Bettman also stated that the wording of the MOU was unclear and would be fixed before the agreement was signed.

Feaster used what was legally an option and probably would have won in arbitration:

The NHL's interpretation seems to be:

If team A signs RFA Y to their team, and he plays overseas, he doesn't have to pass through waivers.

If team B offer sheets RFA Y from team A, the process goes like this is team A doesn't match:

a) Team A doesn't match.
b) Team B surrenders picks to Team A
c) Team B exposes RFA Y to waivers.
d) Team B obtains rights to RFA Y (at least until he's claimed on waivers).

There are two huge problems with this:

1) This process is not explicitly spelled out in the MOU, leaving room for legal interpretation. And the author of any good legal document leaves as little room for differing interpretations as is feasible. Sometimes it's not possible, but this one is way more vague than it has to be.

2) You have to have the player under contract/have to have rights to the player to put them on waivers. You can't expose a player you do not have on contract to waivers. Thus, c) cannot happen before d). However, if d) happens before c) as such has to happen before c) can be possible, that means that they are obtaining the rights to said RFA and signing their own RFA to a contract. Thus, it logically follows that per the exemption in the MOU, they are not required to proceed with c) and expose their own signed RFA to waivers.

It's quite simple: either a team is exposing a player with whom they do not have a contract or rights to waivers--which is not possible!--or they do have the rights to that player, they sign that player to a contract at which point they legally can put him on waivers, but they are not obligated to because that player is now their RFA and there is an MOU exemption to overseas RFAs and waiver exposure.

I think Feaster was silly to bank a 1st and a 3rd on this, but if the above is his interpretation I agree with him 100%, as much as it pains me to agree with Feaster.
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"The edmonton game - how does that get to overtime?"

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Old 12-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #847
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SVen to the A!!!
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #848
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Sven Baertschi assigned to the Heat.

How you feeling right now, folks?
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #849
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Wow Ryan Howse implying Feaster forced him out?

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Wow Calgary one year too late on that one if that was last year I'd still be playing #zing #lovehockeytoday #iwannacomeback
I don't know if it's just me but it looks like he deleted his twitter account after that...
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #850
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Well really lets go beyond Feaster, would you not have to go all the way back to Cliff Fletcher for a top class President/GM?
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Trivia: Jay Feaster is still not the shortest lived GM in Flames history. Craig Button was at the helm for an even shorter period.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:10 PM   #852
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I supported Feaster for the most part but the one thing with him was that you never felt like you were going to really win a trade, at best you felt like the deal would be even.

I will let this play out, because it's not like we just fired one of the best GMs in the NHL. I will judge this move based on who Burke brings in to replace Feaster.
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I hope Burke brings in a guy like Paul Fenton from Nashville to fill the GM role.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:16 PM   #854
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Sven Baertschi assigned to the Heat.

How you feeling right now, folks?

I feel like Brian Burke is validating my opinion that he's a ####ty manager.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:21 PM   #855
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So does the new GM have to hire a replacement for Weisbrod - someone to focus on Drafting? if that's the case and with the importance of this upcoming draft, I somewhat expect a new GM real soon......unless it's Burke as the new GM and President of hockey operations.
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Sven Baertschi assigned to the Heat.

How you feeling right now, folks?
Fine with it.
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I feel like Brian Burke is validating my opinion that he's a ####ty manager.
This is okay. Sven goes down a rips it up and gets away from Hartley for the rest of the season. Start fresh next year. New coach and new confidence.
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I don't know if it's just me but it looks like he deleted his twitter account after that...
He got ripped a new arsehole after posting it is why.

https://twitter.com/search?q=rhowse27&src=typd
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Sven Baertschi assigned to the Heat.

How you feeling right now, folks?
he isn't good enough to be playing up here right now. Fine with it.
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He got ripped a new arsehole after posting it is why.

https://twitter.com/search?q=rhowse27&src=typd
Master Kelly ‏@55Franchise 1h @Rhowse27 Haha. You are about the size of Feaster now. The only hockey pads that will fit you are goalie pads. Have another milkshake

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