2013/14 General Heat Discussion Thread

[Drury18]

HEAT GOAL!

Markus Granlund from Breen and Nemisz

1-0 Heat

[getbak]

First shot of the game. Way to go, Bryz.

[Drury18]

He thought Granlund was a bear....

[Drury18]

Barons Goal - Miller

1-1

(Must pry myself away from the game to go to the concert....)

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

24 years old, 6'7", a grand total of 19 minutes of ice-time in the NHL.

And that came post-injury, having missed all of camp.

Very impressive player assessment on your part.

Before we both slip into condescension, I've been following the Heat since the came to my neck of the woods so I've got a pretty decent idea of what Breen bring to the table. I've also watched my fair share of AHL and NHL hockey over the past 3 seasons.

You are right, it would've been silly of me to judge him based on 19 of NHL hockey. Thank goodness I'm not. I've watched him his whole pro career.

He has all the typical knocks against him that big career AHL defenders tend to have;

-Lacks NHL foot speed
-Lacks NHL level offensive creativity
-Lacks mobility with the puck
-Not an explosive checker

He's a great AHL stay-at-home defender, and last season was a very big season for him in terms of stepping up his all around game. Playfair liked him, Ward uses him too, but there is something missing from his game that would allow him to translate to the NHL.

Since turning pro he has played 208 AHL games all with the Heat, and has a career points total of 8-19-27 with 143pims and a -12.

Just for a comparison of what a top-4 NHL type defender might put up, with the same team, Brodie played 115GP and put up 57 points.

That's double the scoring in half the games. That says upside to me.

He is becoming a smarter player, but I don't really believe he has NHL upside. Maybe I'm wrong, but if you don't like Shane O'Brien or Butler.... I don't think you'll be pleased with Breen.

[thymebalm]

Granlunds goal was called back I think it's 1-0 Kings.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Granlunds goal was called back I think it's 1-0 Kings.

Uhmmm... No it wasn't.

They reviewed a separate wrap around play by Byron the ref reviewed.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

The All-College line has been nice. Olson-Knight-Hanowski seem to have some nice chemistry.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Before we both slip into condescension, I've been following the Heat since the came to my neck of the woods so I've got a pretty decent idea of what Breen bring to the table. I've also watched my fair share of AHL and NHL hockey over the past 3 seasons.

You are right, it would've been silly of me to judge him based on 19 of NHL hockey. Thank goodness I'm not. I've watched him his whole pro career.

He has all the typical knocks against him that big career AHL defenders tend to have;

-Lacks NHL foot speed
-Lacks NHL level offensive creativity
-Lacks mobility with the puck
-Not an explosive checker

He's a great AHL stay-at-home defender, and last season was a very big season for him in terms of stepping up his all around game. Playfair liked him, Ward uses him too, but there is something missing from his game that would allow him to translate to the NHL.

Since turning pro he has played 208 AHL games all with the Heat, and has a career points total of 8-19-27 with 143pims and a -12.

Just for a comparison of what a top-4 NHL type defender might put up, with the same team, Brodie played 115GP and put up 57 points.

That's double the scoring in half the games. That says upside to me.

He is becoming a smarter player, but I don't really believe he has NHL upside. Maybe I'm wrong, but if you don't like Shane O'Brien or Butler.... I don't think you'll be pleased with Breen.

I can see him not making it because of foot speed but comparing him to Brodie is an apples and oranges affair because he wouldn't be expected to fit the same role. You could slam Brodie because he didn't have a fight in the AHL, the same way.

[Ashasx]

Horak picks up an assist. 3-1 Barons.

Bad game by the Heat.

Edit: and they bounce back 3-3.

[Drury18]

Ben Street goal ties it at 3-3 apparently

Hanowski got the other Heat goal.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

And just like that the Heat tie it up 3-3. Goals from Hanowski and Street to get the team back in it.

BTW, that's Street's fifth goal in his last five games. Yeah, dude's killin' it right now. 13 points in 11 games overall.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Baby Oilers make it 4-3 now.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Before we both slip into condescension, I've been following the Heat since the came to my neck of the woods so I've got a pretty decent idea of what Breen bring to the table. I've also watched my fair share of AHL and NHL hockey over the past 3 seasons.

You are right, it would've been silly of me to judge him based on 19 of NHL hockey. Thank goodness I'm not. I've watched him his whole pro career.

He has all the typical knocks against him that big career AHL defenders tend to have;

-Lacks NHL foot speed
-Lacks NHL level offensive creativity
-Lacks mobility with the puck
-Not an explosive checker

He's a great AHL stay-at-home defender, and last season was a very big season for him in terms of stepping up his all around game. Playfair liked him, Ward uses him too, but there is something missing from his game that would allow him to translate to the NHL.

Since turning pro he has played 208 AHL games all with the Heat, and has a career points total of 8-19-27 with 143pims and a -12.

Just for a comparison of what a top-4 NHL type defender might put up, with the same team, Brodie played 115GP and put up 57 points.

That's double the scoring in half the games. That says upside to me.

He is becoming a smarter player, but I don't really believe he has NHL upside. Maybe I'm wrong, but if you don't like Shane O'Brien or Butler.... I don't think you'll be pleased with Breen.

You're comparing his production to Brodie's?

It is not at all uncommon for big defensemen to develop late.

And by the way, Chara had 17 points in 71 career AHL games. And he never had a 20 point season (either league) until he was 25.

Not comparing him to Chara, just saying let it play out.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Street with 2 redirect goals in a minute for the hatrick.

Heat lead 5-4. Suck it baby oilers

[vegasbound]

What period is it in?

and Jones with the hatrick last game and Street this game. Wonder who it is going to be next game? (hopeful thinking)

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by vegasbound

What period is it in?

and Jones with the hatrick last game and Street this game. Wonder who it is going to be next game? (hopeful thinking)

3rd period.

And I'll take Granlund for tomorrow's hat trick!

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by Drury18

3rd period.

And I'll take Granlund for tomorrow's hat trick!

You got Granlund? I will match your Granlund and raise you a Corban Knight.

[BlackWallStreet]

Abby is awesome this year

[sureLoss]

8 wins in a row? Who would of thunk it?