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Old 06-24-2012, 01:47 PM   #841
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I didn't mean that. My apologies. It was a response to the "anti-troll brigade" that feels the need to attack every rival fan on the site. I removed the comment.

Yea the whole anti-troll brigade is really off base for pointing out you have failed logic and don't reply when it's pointed out.

Funny how high the standards are for you rival fans.

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Old 06-24-2012, 02:01 PM   #842
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Weisbrod's message was very clear with this pick, Flames scouts watched him a tonne, Weisbrod made the trip,saw his skill and then did his research on the intangibles (family,charactor..etc). I heard he even called his bantam coach in hamilton.

Make no mistake, they wanted this kid bigtime, I wouldn't be shocked if he was 4-5th on their list but knowing the other guys wouldn't fall that far he was #1.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:05 PM   #843
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Yea the whole anti-troll brigade is really off base for pointing out you have failed logic and don't reply when it's pointed out.

Funny how high the standards are for you rival fans.
but but but but... he has feelings about Jankowski!
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:34 PM   #844
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So he's going to Dubuque next year and then off to Providence College? What is Dubuque then? Why not go right into Providence College?
A few reasons. Physically speaking he is a late bloomer, he just got his height and is still getting used to it. Playing in Dubuque is great for his development, he will get more games and more minutes than he will as a freshman in the NCAA, it also gives him a year to withdraw his commitment and change schools if he so chooses like Gaudreau did.


Also I am re-quoting this because I think some missed it with the questions of the "Beantown Tournament", Beantown, not Beanpot, same town different ages

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some articles on Jankowski.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...ort/54474130/1

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Late last month, Red Line's chief scout and Boston area scout attended the Beantown Spring Classic showcase event to review the top New England prospects, but more important to get several more viewings on draft wild card Mark Jankowski.Much like Shore, the only thing holding Jankowski back from a very high ranking is the difficulty involved in projecting players who have performed at the very lowest competition levels. Jankowski, whose family is from the Toronto area, spent this season at Stanstead College, essentially a college prep school in Quebec's Eastern Townships region, in preparation for entering Providence College next season.
Stanstead's level of competition is so low it doesn't even register on the meter, so not surprisingly, Jankowski is the rawest of raw products in this draft. Playing against some reasonable competition at the Beantown, it was clear that he has the skills to translate to the next level. Where his inexperience shows up is that he doesn't understand positioning or what it takes to compete hard every shift.
As a Sept. 13 birthday, he's one of the youngest players available this year, and that plays in his favor since he presumably has even more development left in him than most others in this class. And already has a lean, projectable frame at 6-2, 175 pounds, to go along with superb natural athleticism and balance.
Given how few skilled forwards there are in this year's crop, someone is going to take a chance on him — and we suspect quite high. Given that his uncle is former New York Islanders chief scout and current Montreal talent hound Ryan Jankowski, we think it's a fair bet the Canadiens will gamble one of their two second-round picks on him. Given the kid's outstanding skating ability and super soft, quick hands, it will be a good gamble.
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While the Central Scouting Service ranks Jankowski 43rd among North American skaters, the latest Craig's List has him rated 15th overall.
"He reminds me of John LeClair," Button said from the Czech Republic, where he is covering the world under-18 championship for TSN. "I talked to people in the OHL and they liked his skill set, but he was 5-foot-8. Since then, he's gone through a growth spurt where he's gained six or seven inches in 18 months, and I think he's still growing."
Button, whose resumé includes a stint as general manager of the Calgary Flames, said Jankowski wasn't on his radar until a friend asked him if he had seen "the kid at Stanstead."
"I've seen him play six or seven times, and each time he's looked better," Button said. "The competition at the prep school level isn't the same as major junior, but you can see the skating, the thinking. You can see he's unselfish. The most important thing is his confidence on the ice. You can see him take over when the game is in the balance."
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“Jankowski is an interesting player who is getting a lot of attention of late,” said one NHL scout in attendance at the showcase. “He dominated his competition (at Stanstead), but he was expected to do that. I think he did himself a favor skating in the Beantown and showing people how he looked with and against other kids in the draft.
“He’s a raw talent who skates well and is a good playmaker, but he has some bloodlines and with his size and skills, you can see how some are projecting a high ceiling for the kid. Is he a risk? Yes. But he’s also got some homerun potential, too.”
The article is gone now but Dubuque Fighting Saints head coach Jim Montgomery said this:


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Mark is a tremendously gifted offensive player who has high-end hockey sense, handles the puck with soft hands, and can shoot it. He’s kind of like a 6’3 John Gaudreau
http://thehockeywriters.com/mark-jan...the-wild-card/


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“Jankowski is a typical late bloomer as he grew 6 inches this season. His sudden growth spurt has left him rail thin as he is vastly under-developed physically, weighing a slight 170. His strength test results at the Combine were certainly a reflection of that. Nonetheless he is a solid prospect due to his ability to manufacture offence. His vision, puck skills and patience with the puck are his best attributes. More of a finesse player, he lacks a physical dimension to his game. Jankowski skates like a young Jason Spezza as he lacks fluidity but has good levels of speed. His anticpation and hockey sense keep him involved in plays even though he doesn’t have the best start up speed. Jankowski desperately needs to add power and strength to his game. His shot as a result is not very strong nor is the quickness of his release. His sudden spike in development is a healthy sign for NHL clubs. This year he dominated the MPHL and helped his draft stock considerably with a strong end of season showing at the Beanpot Classic playing against better players. Jankowski has the potential to be a top six scoring centre at the NHL level. ” - McKeen’s Director of Scouting David Burstyn
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:36 PM   #845
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Just for the record, Jankowski is Polish - and "w" is pronounced as "v" in Polish - so before everyone will start calling him Jan-Cow-ski.....its really pronounced Yan-Kov-Ski

*Also note that Gretzky is Polish, end of PSA.*
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I wonder if Grigorenko was still available at their spot would they still have taken Jankoski?
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:56 PM   #847
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I wonder if Grigorenko was still available at their spot would they still have taken Jankoski?

Seeing as how they had Jankowski's name stitched not velcroed to his sweater, I think their mind was pretty much made up on who they were picking
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:10 PM   #848
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Just for the record, Jankowski is Polish - and "w" is pronounced as "v" in Polish - so before everyone will start calling him Jan-Cow-ski.....its really pronounced Yan-Kov-Ski

*Also note that Gretzky is Polish, end of PSA.*
Funny I was thinking that about jankowski, Gretzky wasn't much more than 170 when he turned pro and he turned out okay.


And Isn't the Gretzky name from Belarus?


http://belarusdigest.com/2010/02/07/...sian-relatives

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Old 06-24-2012, 09:20 PM   #849
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Funny I was thinking that about jankowski, Gretzky wasn't much more than 170 when he turned pro and he turned out okay.


And Isn't the Gretzky name from Belarus?


http://belarusdigest.com/2010/02/07/...sian-relatives
His family is from Grodno, which is right on the Poland border and has changed countries a few times. I think it was even Lithuanian for a while. For a long time it was part of Poland, then the Russian empire. Now it is Belarus. When the Gretzky family emmigrated, there were probably a lot of Poles still living there.
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Jankowski makes the 10 most awkward draft photos not once... but twice:
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Jankowski makes the 10 most awkward draft photos not once... but twice:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...medium=twitter

Don't be messing with the Janko, you hear?

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Hahah I was happy with the pick, but WTF is going on with those photos. Mind-boggling stuff.
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Hahah I was happy with the pick, but WTF is going on with those photos. Mind-boggling stuff.
Past tense? Photos really that bad?
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Jankowski on Twitter is asking Alyonka Larinov to give shout outs to both Gilles and Deblouw to help with their follower numbers haha. I've never really understood the Twitter thing too much, but it's good to see the boys talking and already looking out of each other
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It's a high risk high reward pick. Anything 15+ has a possibility of missing anyway (even higher really) so I can't be mad till we get more info. We'll see how he develops.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:01 AM   #857
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I see many of the Oilers fans are having a few laughs over this pick. Makes me think we did the right thing!
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I see many of the Oilers fans are having a few laughs over this pick. Makes me think we did the right thing!
People laughing over this pick are doing so because to them the THN draft preview is gospel - and when teams deviate from it they must be insane.

Anyone that bothers to research the player and the interest in him as the season progresses knows that it wasn't much of a reach.
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Had the Flames chosen another player, I bet Jankowski would not have been available for their 2nd round pick...I don't see it much of a stretch at all...even TSN had him as a high 2nd rounder, I think (for those following that list as the gospel).
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Had the Flames chosen another player, I bet Jankowski would not have been available for their 2nd round pick...I don't see it much of a stretch at all...even TSN had him as a high 2nd rounder, I think (for those following that list as the gospel).
I agree with all the comments regarding the Flames list being the only one that matters.

But of all the ones that people worry about when questioning the Jankowski pick, the TSN one is the most laughable. Are we to believe that Mckenzie runs around the continent scouting 2+ rounds of draftable players? Dreger is traveling to North Dakota and Minnesota to check out potential 3rd rounders?

As usual, draft day has made for great reading.
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