Annnd this is where you can identify when to dismiss someone's opinions entirely.
As soon as you couple racism with political views, it's clear your just clinging to tribal positions and not interested in genuine discourse.
"The left" isn't ant-semitic. Antisemites are antisemitic. I'm not even Jewish and I've met a smattering of antisemites that really had almost nothing in common with each other besides being hateful people.
So can we go back to crapping on hateful people harassing kids schools, calling in bomb threats and murdering/kidnapping/torturing innocent civilians? I don't care what ethnicity, religion or political lines those people fall on, they are universally scum bags.
This should be the one part we all agree on in this thread, regardless of two state solutions, one state solutions, closed borders, open borders, work permits, no work permits - the hate of human's you've never even met and interacted with is never acceptable.
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I just want to know if he’s come up with a single LGBTQ issue he cares about after calling LGBTQ Palestinians and Israeli’s “liars” and cracking homophobic jokes.
Annnd this is where you can identify when to dismiss someone's opinions entirely.
As soon as you couple racism with political views, it's clear your just clinging to tribal positions and not interested in genuine discourse.
"The left" isn't ant-semitic. Antisemites are antisemitic. I'm not even Jewish and I've met a smattering of antisemites that really had almost nothing in common with each other besides being hateful people.
So can we go back to crapping on hateful people harassing kids schools, calling in bomb threats and murdering/kidnapping/torturing innocent civilians? I don't care what ethnicity, religion or political lines those people fall on, they are universally scum bags.
This should be the one part we all agree on in this thread, regardless of two state solutions, one state solutions, closed borders, open borders, work permits, no work permits - the hate of human's you've never even met and interacted with is never acceptable.
Calling out anti-semitic behavoir is not hateful but you trying to gloss over it is very enabling of hate. A portion of the left has been encouraging and enabling the actions on these campuses and now they are going so far as to threaten to bomb Jewish hospitals and business but yeah nothing to see here right? Just keep brushing it under the carpet. Keep chanting your genocidal rhetoric.
Calling out anti-semitic behavoir is not hateful but you trying to gloss over it is very enabling of hate. A portion of the left has been encouraging and enabling the actions on these campuses and now they are going so far as to threaten to bomb Jewish hospitals and business but yeah nothing to see here right? Just keep brushing it under the carpet. Keep chanting your genocidal rhetoric.
They caught the people responsible for making the bomb threats and it was college students that were protesting on campus?
Link please.
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Calling out anti-semitic behavoir is not hateful but you trying to gloss over it is very enabling of hate. A portion of the left has been encouraging and enabling the actions on these campuses and now they are going so far as to threaten to bomb Jewish hospitals and business but yeah nothing to see here right? Just keep brushing it under the carpet. Keep chanting your genocidal rhetoric.
Are you concerned about all innocent people being threatened with bombs?
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Calling out anti-semitic behavoir is not hateful but you trying to gloss over it is very enabling of hate.
Where did I "gloss over" antisemitism? Quotes please.
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A portion of the left has been encouraging and enabling the actions on these campuses and now they are going so far as to threaten to bomb Jewish hospitals and business but yeah nothing to see here right?
Do I have to mansplain antisemitism to the Jewish guy? Because there are a #### ton on the right who have been ragging on you all for no reason for decades.
This isn't a political problem, it's a hate problem. My post had that pretty well covered, but I don't know why I bother, you'll just keep interpreting things that aren't there.
Next time respond directly to the words I said, not what you imagine I said.
In what world are we living in where threats of bombings get more attention than actual bombings that are killing thousands a week.
Yup they are totally the same thing, one is a war and the other is just rampant anti-semitism and threatening people who have nothing to do with what's happening on the other side of the globe. Very much the same thing
This should be the one part we all agree on in this thread, regardless of two state solutions, one state solutions, closed borders, open borders, work permits, no work permits - the hate of human's you've never even met and interacted with is never acceptable.
Yup and this part of this young Israeli girl’s story might be the saddest of all:
Opinion - I was a captive of Hamas. After I was freed, I was imprisoned by online trolls.
By Agam Goldstein-Almog
“In captivity, I had often filled the long, silent hours by fantasizing, trying to keep the dread and terrible memories at bay. One of my fantasies was that we would be freed and the world would embrace us.
But the world I came back to was deeply divided and seething with anger. The hatred that I thought I had left behind in Gaza was waiting for me online.
My social media feeds were flooded with trolls, falsehoods and conspiracy theories, all with seemingly one objective: driving hate. The comment sections of news articles mentioning my name were battlefields, as hatred from one side was met with hatred from the other.
I have watched as the movement in the West for a Gaza cease-fire sometimes devolves into full-throated support for Hamas and the hounding of Jews in public spaces. I’m sure my kidnappers still hate me, but when American students call for “intifada” or chant in praise of Hamas terrorists “Al-Qassam, you make us proud,” I’m reminded that many other people do, too.
Now, a dangerous escalation in the war that began on Oct. 7 might loom, involving an Iranian regime that has long promised to wipe Israel off the map. Theirs is the same hatred that killed my father and sister. The same hatred that poisons too many campuses and too much of social media.
On Tuesday, news arrived that Israeli forces in Gaza had recovered the bodies of six hostages. It is unclear how many of the more than 100 hostages still held by Hamas remain alive. Negotiations for their release continue. I pray for their freedom, but I have no illusions about the world to which they’ll return.“
Yup and this part of this young Israeli girl’s story might be the saddest of all:
Opinion - I was a captive of Hamas. After I was freed, I was imprisoned by online trolls.
By Agam Goldstein-Almog
“In captivity, I had often filled the long, silent hours by fantasizing, trying to keep the dread and terrible memories at bay. One of my fantasies was that we would be freed and the world would embrace us.
But the world I came back to was deeply divided and seething with anger. The hatred that I thought I had left behind in Gaza was waiting for me online.
My social media feeds were flooded with trolls, falsehoods and conspiracy theories, all with seemingly one objective: driving hate. The comment sections of news articles mentioning my name were battlefields, as hatred from one side was met with hatred from the other.
I have watched as the movement in the West for a Gaza cease-fire sometimes devolves into full-throated support for Hamas and the hounding of Jews in public spaces. I’m sure my kidnappers still hate me, but when American students call for “intifada” or chant in praise of Hamas terrorists “Al-Qassam, you make us proud,” I’m reminded that many other people do, too.
Now, a dangerous escalation in the war that began on Oct. 7 might loom, involving an Iranian regime that has long promised to wipe Israel off the map. Theirs is the same hatred that killed my father and sister. The same hatred that poisons too many campuses and too much of social media.
On Tuesday, news arrived that Israeli forces in Gaza had recovered the bodies of six hostages. It is unclear how many of the more than 100 hostages still held by Hamas remain alive. Negotiations for their release continue. I pray for their freedom, but I have no illusions about the world to which they’ll return.“
Not allowed to talk about the hostages here, just remember that these people say things like "Netanyahu doesn't want to rescue the hostages" and on Oct 7th they said "there's really no side to take". Can you imagine that literally on the day a terrorist group murders thousands of women and children you say "there's really no side to take"? Like I am sure you take a side against Hamas right? Absolutely wild how some people claim any humanity after saying that.
Yup they are totally the same thing, one is a war and the other is just rampant anti-semitism and threatening people who have nothing to do with what's happening on the other side of the globe. Very much the same thing
It’s pretty inconsistent and telling of your hate for Palestinian people that you view bombing them to death as excusable while pretending to take issue with emailed bomb threats to people who aren’t Palestinian as an atrocity.
Both things are terrible are in their own way, but you have your concerns backwards.
just remember that these people say things like "Netanyahu doesn't want to rescue the hostages"
Who are "these people" that you speak of?
Former hostages?
Quote:
Former Hamas hostage refuses to meet with Netanyahu, accuses PM of stalling deal
Margalit Moses says she doesn’t want to be part of PR stunt while her friends are suffering in captivity.
Moses added that her rejection of the invitation came in light of reports that the prime minister was trying to sabotage a deal to get hostages back in exchange for a ceasefire and releasing Palestinian prisoners from Israeli prisons.
“I see no reason to go to a meeting with the person who proves with his actions that releasing the hostages is not at the top of his priorities and is abandoning them to die,” Moses wrote, adding that she would be happy to meet with Netanyahu “at a reception event for the 109 hostages when they return to their families.”
Or are you talking about the families of hostages?
Quote:
The daughter of one of the six Israeli hostages whose bodies were brought back from Gaza by Israel’s military on Tuesday has accused Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of putting “political priorities” ahead of a ceasefire and hostage release deal.
Inbal Albini Peri told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that her 80-year-old father Chaim and his friends would have been among the first people freed under any agreement with Hamas and that they “should have come back alive”.
Mr Netanyahu has insisted he is making every effort to bring back all of the remaining hostages kidnapped during Hamas’s 7 October attack.
But Ms Albini Peri said: “I don’t believe a word he is saying.”
Said poster has a pretty concrete history of using groups of people he holds contempt for to justify the killing or abuse of groups he outright hates. So far, the only person he hasn’t disparaged is Netanyahu, while he’s attacked and shamed hostages, children, civilian victims of bombing, and even Israelis in general.
Before this thread, his posting history was filled with hateful rhetoric about “natives” and “blacks” as well.
At this rate, it’s more likely he’s trolling the thread to make the pro-Israel side look bad than it is he actually cares about anyone involved. I don’t think he’s even been able to feign sympathy for a single individual in this conflict if he hasn’t attached it to an attack on another poster or used it to justify some hate.
Said poster has a pretty concrete history of using groups of people he holds contempt for to justify the killing or abuse of groups he outright hates. So far, the only person he hasn’t disparaged is Netanyahu, while he’s attacked and shamed hostages, children, civilian victims of bombing, and even Israelis in general.
Before this thread, his posting history was filled with hateful rhetoric about “natives” and “blacks” as well.
At this rate, it’s more likely he’s trolling the thread to make the pro-Israel side look bad than it is he actually cares about anyone involved. I don’t think he’s even been able to feign sympathy for a single individual in this conflict if he hasn’t attached it to an attack on another poster or used it to justify some hate.
Weird dude.
Ahh non-stop lies from you as usual. What isn't a lie is on Oct 7th you doing damage control and and being an outright apologist for Hamas right in this thread right after 1200 women and children were raped and murdered. I guess you're still pretending to care about this topic so you can get your "social justice" points. What happened to "there's really no side to take"? Remember that when terrorists murder people after 17 years of relative peace "there's really no side to take".
Ahh non-stop lies from you as usual. What isn't a lie is on Oct 7th you doing damage control and and being an outright apologist for Hamas right in this thread right after 1200 women and children were raped and murdered. I guess you're still pretending to care about this topic so you can get your "social justice" points. What happened to "there's really no side to take"? Remember that when terrorists murder people after 17 years of relative peace "there's really no side to take".
Quote it one more time so people know that I knew from the beginning where this had been and where it would go, while you sit there desperately trying to win internet points, tongue firmly swirling around the dirtiest parts of Netanyahu’s boots, hating on hostages, LGBTQ people, Palestinians and Israelis alike and clapping like a little boy at the idea of genocide and more people dead.
“Lies! Lies!” Keep flailing around. You think even pro-Israel posters respect you at this point?
At this rate, it’s more likely he’s trolling the thread to make the pro-Israel side look bad than it is he actually cares about anyone involved.
I hadn't considered that but now that you mention it that does make a lot of sense. I mean why else would you go so low as to go after former hostages and relatives of dead hostages implying they're liars?
