2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I agree he has value. I just don't understand why, if a hockey trade isn't immediately available, why not trade for the best return possible and flip those aquired assets +/- for a center? The offseason is the time to do it.

I think we can assume he feels the market will improve or he would have dealt him already.

We don't need to agree with him for sure.

But from a distance I don't see any point in assuming he turned his back on what he knew was the best he was going to get.

[Goriders]

Posted this in another thread. Though it was more valid here.

As for Andersson this one is much trickier. On one hand it could be a benefit in that Andersson can be used as a tool to help transition younger players into the lineup. The flip side is getting a terrible return if Andersson digs his heels in everytime they get a decent offer. Hopefully everyone can work together kind of like what Tkachuk did to get the best outcome for both sides. That’s what I think will ultimately happen.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Because they didn't want to help out the Oilers by taking back a bad contract that had term on it.

A 2nd and 3rd from Dallas was worth more than a 1st and a cap dump from the Oilers.

Instead of getting Cody Ceci and whoever we would have got with the 31st overall pick or the 32nd overall pick in the event that Tanev led our provincial friends to a Stanley Cup the Flames got the 62nd overall pick, Grushnikov and a conditional 3rd. I feel like CC made the right move but some Flames fans could disagree and would have rather seen him with the Oilers.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Instead of getting Cody Ceci and whoever we would have got with the 31st overall pick or the 32nd overall pick in the event that Tanev led our provincial friends to a Stanley Cup the Flames got the 62nd overall pick, Grushnikov and a conditional 3rd. I feel like CC made the right move but some Flames fans could disagree and would have rather seen him with the Oilers.

Hard to view without emotion. You hate to see him in oilers silks but being a ufa that was a possibility. We had the cap room to take on Ceci so that’s moot.

Rationally, you take the oilers deal as you improve your draft position considerably. Emotionally, you take the Dallas deal as you don’t want to be the GM that helps the greasers raise the cup.

Tough one but was thinking about this after seeing the post this am. We could have also taken Sam o Reilly with the pick and Edmonton doesn’t have him ti trade for Howard. If grushnikov/battaglia dont amount to a hill of beans (and and someone in that oiler pick range becomes a regular nhler, then we know the right decision. But conroy would have been tarred and feathered for making a tanev deal with the oil, even if it was the superior package. Truly a no win situation.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Pretty simple ...

Don't make up a bleak scenario to make yourself feel better.
Don't use 4 decades of inconsistent consistency to wallow further when it's irrelevant.
Don't use things like "Flames thing to do"

None of those are rules.
Not following won't get you banned.

But any will get you some push back, which honestly you should probably expect on a message board for "FANS" of a hockey team.

This isn't rocket science.

You are coming in awfully hot. I never said anything about rules or getting banned. Reading isn't rocket science.


I also wasn't referring to any related to those scenarios you presented.


It was about some getting antsy regarding the Andersson situation, and then understanding why given some of the recently traded defenceman having Underwhelming returns. You dont think its fair for anyone to feel a little antsy about how this situation is playing out?


Obviously theres push back to whatever anyone says but I think its funny the loop some of you fall into.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by traptor

I never said anything about rules or getting banned. Reading isn't rocket science.


I also wasn't referring to any related to those scenarios you presented.


It was about some getting antsy regarding the Andersson situation, and then understanding why given some of the recently traded defenceman having Underwhelming returns. You dont think its fair for anyone to feel a little antsy about how this situation is playing out?


Obviously theres push back to whatever anyone says but I think its funny the loop some of you fall into.


Right now with Rasmus its
"Its too early to judge the situation"


And after he traded some of you will change your tune to
"Easy to say in hindsight"

I just jumped on the guy saying Conroy blew it without knowing what was offered, and then the lame "such a Flames thing to do".

Your responded to those that responded.

Pushing back isn't a loop. It's natural. This is a website for Flames fans.

Maybe ask yourself why there are some that need push back on your overt negativity?

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I just jumped on the guy saying Conroy blew it without knowing what was offered, and then the lame "such a Flames thing to do".

Your responded to those that responded.

Pushing back isn't a loop. It's natural. This is a website for Flames fans.

Maybe ask yourself why there are some that need push back on your overt negativity?

it's really just you lol..

I didn't quote anyone for a reason. There was like 20 posts of that response from many users, and this was just the most recent argument".
It was just a general comment on how these argument loops usually go.

Sorry if you felt targeted, it wasn't my intention.

I don't see how my posts have been overly negative? I probably lean negative for some of you but I do have positive views

Here's some positivity in few of my recent posts:

The writing has been on the wall with Rasmus for a while now. Hes a good player in a position if demand in an amazing contract. I still have faith they can hit a good return though.

Putting the Flames at 17th is insane.

10th feels a bit more realistic.

Maybe it's homerism but I would have them a bit higher, like 8th.

Maybe I'm not positive enough for you, that's fine, feel free to ignore my posts if they bug you.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think we can assume he feels the market will improve or he would have dealt him already.

We don't need to agree with him for sure.

But from a distance I don't see any point in assuming he turned his back on what he knew was the best he was going to get.

I don’t think we can assume that at all, especially not with rumors floating around that he did not trade Andersson at the trade deadline because of the teams chance of making the playoffs. There’s any possibility of reasons, intelligent or not, that Conroy hasn’t dealt him.

I have very little confidence in Conroy after missing out at the TDL given the prices paid for worse players than Rasmus.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Conroy has a set price for Andersson. Until it gets met - or until the deadline comes and the offers don't increase - Conroy will just sit on this asset. Why make a bad trade?



As for 'he needs to go since it will be a distraction' logic - distraction for what? Is this a contending year for the Flames? Team is rebuilding. Conroy will trade Andersson for picks/youth, not for help now. The team will actually become worse after this trade happens. So what distractions are we worried about it causing? Maybe I am missing something here.



There are only 2 minor reasons I have an issue with Rasmus being a Flame as the season starts - helping this team overachieve, and pushing an extra defencemen onto waivers. The latter is a small worry - doubtful Kuznetsov or Poirier get picked off of waivers, but I think there is a slightly bigger chance that Solovyov does this time around as he took a big step in his development last season, and I am not sure it went unnoticed.


I think Andersson should have been traded a couple of seasons ago simply because a large part of his valuation as an asset was that cheap deal, especially since the cap was flat and most teams were right up against the cap. It is what it is now, but I don't see a difference at the deadline with an extension or not for Andersson - teams almost always overpay for defencemen at the deadline. I expect a similar return to what Hanifin brought.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I don’t think we can assume that at all, especially not with rumors floating around that he did not trade Andersson at the trade deadline because of the teams chance of making the playoffs. There’s any possibility of reasons, intelligent or not, that Conroy hasn’t dealt him.

I have very little confidence in Conroy after missing out at the TDL given the prices paid for worse players than Rasmus.

That is a silly thing to say. It is like you are ignoring Conroy's entire body of work and then dumping your own personal drama on him to form your hot take.

There is really one reason that makes sense for why Conroy hasn't traded Andersson this summer: He set a price and no one has met it yet.

Conroy has demonstrated that he will make the trade and move the player before they get to UFA. The fact that he has not traded Andersson yet is not evidence that Andersson will not be traded.

However, I do think it is safe to assume that Conroy is demonstrating that he won't be pushed around by other GMs with their lowball offers. Especially if they are showing up with arguments as weak as the ones on this board... "blah blah blah -38".

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Wolven

That is a silly thing to say. It is like you are ignoring Conroy's entire body of work and then dumping your own personal drama on him to form your hot take.

There is really one reason that makes sense for why Conroy hasn't traded Andersson this summer: He set a price and no one has met it yet.

Conroy has demonstrated that he will make the trade and move the player before they get to UFA. The fact that he has not traded Andersson yet is not evidence that Andersson will not be traded.

However, I do think it is safe to assume that Conroy is demonstrating that he won't be pushed around by other GMs with their lowball offers. Especially if they are showing up with arguments as weak as the ones on this board... "blah blah blah -38".

Can we really trust the biggest tear it to the ground rebuild focused on obtaining prospects and picks from June 23 until July 2024 in salary cap history or is it better to trust our feelings about whether Conroy has a plan?

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Wolven

That is a silly thing to say. It is like you are ignoring Conroy's entire body of work and then dumping your own personal drama on him to form your hot take.

There is really one reason that makes sense for why Conroy hasn't traded Andersson this summer: He set a price and no one has met it yet.

Conroy has demonstrated that he will make the trade and move the player before they get to UFA. The fact that he has not traded Andersson yet is not evidence that Andersson will not be traded.

However, I do think it is safe to assume that Conroy is demonstrating that he won't be pushed around by other GMs with their lowball offers. Especially if they are showing up with arguments as weak as the ones on this board... "blah blah blah -38".

I’m not sure who you are talking to here, but where did I say any of this lol. You’re jumping to a few conclusions that I never said. I think he will be traded, but for a worse return than what similar players were getting at last years TDL (1st + A prospect + 4th for Carlo). I believe he misjudged the market and put himself in a weaker position.

You also have a pretty low bar for what you call a hot take, disagreeing with a GMs decision to not trade a player happens a lot, especially on a message board lol.

[dammage79]

If Backlund publicly has come out and proclaimed Andersson is being traded, he's being traded. No way the Flames just let that nugget slip out of free will.

The only twoquestions left for me now are, when will he be traded and what will his return do to help the team moving forward.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If Backlund publicly has come out and proclaimed Andersson is being traded, he's being traded. No way the Flames just let that nugget slip out of free will.

The only twoquestions left for me now are, when will he be traded and what will his return do to help the team moving forward.

As long as he doesn't get injured (a dangerous gamble IMO) signs seem to point to him going for a rental price at the deadline. Maybe the Flames get lucky and a team that wants to extend him pays a little more to get him in the door but I think the whole value package for an extended Rasmus ship has long sailed.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by flambers

I get Rasmus may very well be a Flames right till the trade deadline, again in my opinion this is a gamble.

He plays a hard style, injury is likely for a player with this style,

It will be interesting to see how this plays out,

Other than the covid-shortened seasons (of which he played all), the least amount of games he has played is 78.


Probably not much of a risk from the Flames POV.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I’m not sure who you are talking to here, but where did I say any of this lol. You’re jumping to a few conclusions that I never said. I think he will be traded, but for a worse return than what similar players were getting at last years TDL (1st + A prospect + 4th for Carlo). I believe he misjudged the market and put himself in a weaker position.

You also have a pretty low bar for what you call a hot take, disagreeing with a GMs decision to not trade a player happens a lot, especially on a message board lol.

I think he planned to trade him at the deadline and then the team over performed and he held off.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I don’t think we can assume that at all, especially not with rumors floating around that he did not trade Andersson at the trade deadline because of the teams chance of making the playoffs. There’s any possibility of reasons, intelligent or not, that Conroy hasn’t dealt him.

I have very little confidence in Conroy after missing out at the TDL given the prices paid for worse players than Rasmus.

We don’t know that those prices were offered for Ras though.

I do not disagree with you first sentence, but the second para is an assumption in itself.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Ped

Other than the covid-shortened seasons (of which he played all), the least amount of games he has played is 78.


Probably not much of a risk from the Flames POV.

He was hurt last season, just played injured.

I am sure that was a factor to his play dropping off.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

We don’t know that those prices were offered for Ras though.

I do not disagree with you first sentence, but the second para is an assumption in itself.

Of course it’s an assumption, you could even call it speculation. I figured this was the thread to speculate.

I’ve explained my view in the other Andersson thread and here it is:

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

If a return similar to those can be had then no, it won’t be messed up. In my view there’s 2 factors playing against the flames now, injuries (like you mentioned) and time decay. A part of Anderssons value is in his current contract and as time goes on a team trading for him will utilize that contract less and less.

If they can’t trade him before the season starts for a strong return they may as well hold on until the TDL and pray that the market is volatile enough for a good return.

Look at the returns from last years TDL for similar players. My comparables (insert speculation disclaimer here) would be Carlo, Jones and Walman. In my view, Conroy needs to meet or exceed the value that those players returned last year, anything less is a strike against his capability as a GM. Anything that exceeds Carlo’s return would prove his aptitude. That’s how I’ll be judging him.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

As for 'he needs to go since it will be a distraction' logic - distraction for what? Is this a contending year for the Flames?

Team is rebuilding.

Conroy will trade Andersson for picks/youth, not for help now. The team will actually become worse after this trade happens. So what distractions are we worried about it causing? Maybe I am missing something here.

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I do think it will be a distraction, not from the player

Rather from the Media, it will be a topic from training camp up until he is traded.

My guess, Conroy would say, they expect to make the playoffs.