2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Goriders]

I think if Kuzmenko and Sharangovich produced what was probably expected of them the Flames would be an entirely different team.

I think everyone else is producing as expected.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They are all on career averages. Pachal has a career high 2 goals and matches his point total of 6. Did you expect everyone to play to their career year numbers ?

Coleman has 30 goals last year and Weegar had 20. That wasn’t going to happen again and they are back to their career averages.

Sharangovich yes. Kuzmenko was always a wild card.

We literally have the lowest scoring defense in the league. How much of a doomer are you that you think it'll get worse haha

So rookies go down to what .3?, defense scoring gets worse than already league worse, the like 4 30 goal scorers continue to all not score, Wolf regresses, we do absolutely nothing with 30 million in cap space, and power play and special teams stay terrible.

Some peoples delusions for a tank are a bit much imo

[activeStick]

Was listening to Canucks Talk this morning and boy do the Canucks have a situation on their hands.

They have a top 2 defenceman on their team playing in his peak seasons who has a contract expiring in 2 seasons. Their priority is almost certainly Hughes and keeping him in Vancouver for his next contract if not for the rest of his career. To do that, the Canucks need to be competing for the cup every season. That is not this version of the Canucks, currently.

So, you can trade Miller or Pettersson, both or neither. Pettersson has been on a slump for basically a full 82 games. Trading him now means you're trading him at his lowest value and if the Canucks are going to trade him, they absolutely need to win the trade and get players that will contribute to winning today, given the Hughes contract, and not picks or prospects who might be good in 4 years.

But then Pettersson also has a NTC that kicks in this summer. Canucks could just keep him, but what if this isn't a 1 year slump? What if he's the wrong guy to pick?

As for Miller, he's not going to return anything crazy based on rumours. Sure, Chytil, Lindgren and a pick isn't terrible, but Canucks are shipping out a 100+ point center who is apparently the only player with a voice in the room. Moving him out makes the Canucks worse.

I also don't think keeping both will work long term. Boudreau confirmed this feud has been there for 4 years now. The room will never be right with both there. Trading both guys, unless you are completely taking the other GMs to town and winning both trades by far, will make the Canucks a lot worse today. Like rebuild level worse and essentially means Hughes is as good as gone in 2. And to date, Allvin hasn't shown well in the trades he makes (see return for Lindholm), so I wouldn't bet on him winning both trades, let alone one.

What a ride it is in Vancouver right now...

[FusionX]

I honestly think Petterson explodes again once he's out of that situation and with how Wolf's playing... Yes, he's not the exact age and he's a left shot but he's that potential bonafide number 1 we're unlikely to draft (barring luck). I just don't think we have what it takes to get him given they'll want to compete.

Zary + Brustewicz + top 10 protected 1st in 2026? Add in someone like Suniev/Gridin or Kerins/Stromgren if they're thinking a bit closer?

Sharangovic - Petterson - Coronato
Huberdeau - Kadri - Pospisil
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Rooney - Klapka

I think with this, you try to keep Rasmus and hopefully on the cheap given the team's contending. But this isn't a complete rebuild over move either as we have some depth for b tier forwards and defence. What hurts is losing Zary plus the pick in 2026 but we have VGK pick and it'll be lottery position protected.

With all this, likely moo point however given Van likely hangs up, they'd ask for Coronato maybe?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by BigThief

This is all in your head.

Given the posters who responded to my post it pretty much proves my point.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would suggest that Yegor being on pace for 36 point pace over 82 games is having an off year. I sure hope he is given what they are paying him. Second worst PPG of his career.

Kuzmenko sure ain’t having a good year, would have to say it is an off year for him.

Hope always springs eternal that the Flames will start losing after a loss. Thankfully they usually respond with another win. Big game against the Caps to start a new winning streak.

Yegor doesn't have a long history so it's hard to pinpoint what is normal for him. But yes, we certainly expected more.

Kuzmenko is always a wild card, there is a reason why he was a cap dump last year with negative value. He's likely out of the NHL next season. He's not a real good NHL player.

Other players have taken over some of their premium ice time, so it's not like you can simply add what you expected them to score to the Flames total.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Given the posters who responded to my post it pretty much proves my point.

The two aren't correlated at all.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Zary and Coronato have made up for the loss of offence for Kuzmenko I don’t think anyone had them at 50 point paces.

I know rebuilding is really difficult for you and you want to see the team swim in mediocrity forever.

The Flames are rebuilding and it has not been difficult for me. I don’t know why you think the litmus test of whether one can stomach a rebuild is years and years of losing like the Hawks, Ducks, Sabres etc. There are many proven ways to build a winner.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Yegor doesn't have a long history so it's hard to pinpoint what is normal for him. But yes, we certainly expected more.

Kuzmenko is always a wild card, there is a reason why he was a cap dump last year with negative value. He's likely out of the NHL next season. He's not a real good NHL player.

Other players have taken over some of their premium ice time, so it's not like you can simply add what you expected them to score to the Flames total.

He doesn't have a long history but what he has to date points to him bouncing back next season as so far he's been one of those players that's good every 2nd season.

[Bingo]

Sharangovich is coming around.

He had zero puck luck through November and December and is now starting to see the goals and points catch up.

GF - xGF / 60

October -0.2
November -1.2
December -1.6
January +.8

I still think he finishes with 20 goals.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Sharangovich is coming around.

He had zero puck luck through November and December and is now starting to see the goals and points catch up.

GF - xGF / 60

October -0.2
November -1.2
December -1.6
January +.8

I still think he finishes with 20 goals.

Possible. There are 34 games left and he needs 11 goals.

(GF-xGF)/60 should be expected to be 0 moving forward, by definition. Any other number is lucky or unlucky. Keep in mind last year he was at +0.43 and this year it's -0.21. So for as unlucky he's been so far this year he was twice that lucky last year.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Sharangovich is coming around.

He had zero puck luck through November and December and is now starting to see the goals and points catch up.

GF - xGF / 60

October -0.2
November -1.2
December -1.6
January +.8

I still think he finishes with 20 goals.

He's also found much better chemistry with his current line mates. Somehow Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and Pospisil is a thing?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by blankall

He's also found much better chemistry with his current line mates. Somehow Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and Pospisil is a thing?

Yeah the fourth line is a mess, but this might be the best top nine we've seen this season with improvement from Sharangovich, Kuzmenko and a pop from Pelletier.

Where does Zary fit in?

He gets Sharangovich's spot, Sharangovich moves to the wing, and Kuzmenko is down to the fourth line? Or does Pelletier get the rug yanked out from under him?

Lots of games ahead to see I guess.

[rogermexico]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah the fourth line is a mess, but this might be the best top nine we've seen this season with improvement from Sharangovich, Kuzmenko and a pop from Pelletier.

Where does Zary fit in?

He gets Sharangovich's spot, Sharangovich moves to the wing, and Kuzmenko is down to the fourth line? Or does Pelletier get the rug yanked out from under him?

Lots of games ahead to see I guess.

Yeah it's tough because Pospisil and Pelletier both seem to spark the lines that they're on.

I'd take a chance on Zary, Sharangovich and Kuzmenko and move Posipisil to the fourth. Maybe he can pull the fourth line above water.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Flames are rebuilding and it has not been difficult for me. I don’t know why you think the litmus test of whether one can stomach a rebuild is years and years of losing like the Hawks, Ducks, Sabres etc. There are many proven ways to build a winner.

And probably plenty of ways that have not been discovered yet.

You can't engineer a season, and now with the lottery you certainly can't engineer a draft. Team tank can't get that through their skulls.

[sureLoss]

Canucks doing a fire sale?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1884265624114749828

[Toonage]

Minnesota has long been a rumored spot for him, wouldn't shock me to see him end up there even before the season is done.

[Vinny01]

Canucks really trying their best to emulate the recent flames squad that went from playoff miss to division winner to complete mess within 18 months

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Canucks doing a fire sale?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1884265624114749828

Always liked this guy. It would be nice to see him elsewhere.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah the fourth line is a mess, but this might be the best top nine we've seen this season with improvement from Sharangovich, Kuzmenko and a pop from Pelletier.

Where does Zary fit in?

He gets Sharangovich's spot, Sharangovich moves to the wing, and Kuzmenko is down to the fourth line? Or does Pelletier get the rug yanked out from under him?

Lots of games ahead to see I guess.

This is probably why Calgary doesn't bring in another body unless it's a hockey-type trade for that youngish centre--or if a couple guys get injured or they're able to find a new home for Kuzmenko. They don't have the space without penalizing one of the guys who helped get them here.