Democratic Presidential Primaries 2008

[Azure]

Or Obama sticking his foot into his mouth again.

Course...he might just croak by the time the convention rolls around. You know, there probably is a reason Hillary is sticking in the race.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

Or Obama sticking his foot into his mouth again.

Course...he might just croak by the time the convention rolls around. You know, there probably is a reason Hillary is sticking in the race.

So you think she might know of a plot to kill him?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So you think she might know of a plot to kill him?

I'm not actually being serious.

Although it seems she needs a crazy plot like that for a concrete reason to stay in the race.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Azure

I'm not actually being serious.

Although it seems she needs a crazy plot like that for a concrete reason to stay in the race.

Mark my words. Twenty years from now there will be an Oliver Stone movie about this. Second gunman, grassy knoll, the whole bit.

"Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left."

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Mark my words. Twenty years from now there will be an Oliver Stone movie about this. Second gunman, grassy knoll, the whole bit.

"Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left."

[Nehkara]

Delegate update!

Total Delegates:

Clinton 1686
Obama 1845 (159 ahead)


Pledged Delegates:

Clinton 1419
Obama 1588 (169 ahead)


Superdelegates:

Clinton 267 (10 ahead)
Obama 257


Largest lead Obama has had in the campaign. Clinton's lead in superdelegates shrinks to 10, looking like it will disappear altogether in the coming weeks.

[Nehkara]

I should note, this is also likely the largest lead in pledged delegates that Obama will have.

Unless the voters completely jump ship on Clinton, she should win West Virginia, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico. (162 total delegates combined)

Obama will probably win South Dakota, Montana, and Oregon. (113 total delegates combined)

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by blankall

Unfortunately there are a lot of people in the party who put everything into being president, but don't get the opportunity. That's just the way it works.

Very true but, not many were seen as the heir apparent for 4 plus years. Again, how many folks promised her their support in that time. I'm not trying to justify her actions but, rather identify her motives. She has been a strong supporter of racial equality throughout her career and is losing this election because she has the wrong colour skin. Thats got to hurt.

Originally Posted by blankall

My biggest worry is that the doubling effect of the black vote in the primaries (the idea that virtually all blacks will vote democrat anyway, so compared to the real election their influence is halved), will result in Obama not really being as popular as he appears and McCain the nut job becoming president.

That could become his achilles heel. The biggest danger any front runner has is to appear to have lost momentum. He might be ahead of McCain nationally but, not by a lot.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

She has been a strong supporter of racial equality throughout her career and is losing this election because she has the wrong colour skin. Thats got to hurt.

Do you actually believe in reality that he's going to win simply because he's black?

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Do you actually believe in reality that he's going to win simply because he's black?

I wonder if he also believes that Clinton will only win because she's a woman.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Do you actually believe in reality that he's going to win simply because he's black?

He has consistently been getting 80% of the black vote and blacks have been registering as Democrats in record numbers in order to support him. Yes I do think he will get the nomination because of his skin colour. If blacks were voting in line with the other ethnic groups he wouldn't have won those early primaries whch gave him the momentum and press coverage that has propelled him to where he is.
Before Obama, Clinton was expected to gain the majority of the black vote. After all Hilliary's husband was heralded as "the first Black President" by the black democratic caucus.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Dan02

I wonder if he also believes that Clinton will only win because she's a woman.

I think she has benefited from being a women to a small degree. The difference is that although most women would probably like to see the first women president of the United States they won't blindly vote for her because of her sex. Most women aren't feminist activists.

[Nehkara]

Delegate update!

Total Delegates:

Clinton 1691
Obama 1855 (164 ahead)


Pledged Delegates:

Clinton 1424
Obama 1592 (168 ahead)


Superdelegates:

Clinton 267 (4 ahead)
Obama 263


Obama increases his lead again, and again it is the largest lead he has had in the campaign. He now leads by 164 total delegates, 168 pledged delegates. He is now only 4 superdelegates behind.

[HotHotHeat]

John Edwards suggests Obama has gotten the nomination:

(CNN) – John Edwards still isn’t backing a candidate in this year’s Democratic primary race – but it looks like he might be ready to pick a winner.

The former presidential candidate told interviewers on NBC and MSNBC that Barack Obama will probably top the Democratic ticket this fall.

Hillary Clinton has said that she can still win the nomination – but "it's very difficult to make the math work," said Edwards.

Which one of the remaining contenders is best-equipped to beat presumptive Republican nominee John McCain? Edwards tried to avoid picking between the two – then chose Obama, because he said the Illinois senator was the probable Democratic nominee.

He added that he worried the continuing campaign could take a toll on the party’s presidential chances. “I think it’s fine for Hillary to keep making the case for her,” said the former North Carolina senator. “But when that shifts to everything that is wrong with him, then we’re doing damage instead of being helpful.”

Edwards has been heavily wooed by both the Clinton and Obama campaigns since he ended his presidential run in January, but has not publicly endorsed either candidate.

[North East Goon]

Could there be an Obama/Edwards ticket come the fall out of the Democrats?

[Iggy's Forehead]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Could there be an Obama/Edwards ticket come the fall out of the Democrats?

I hope so, I DO NOT want Hilary anywhere near it.

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Iggy's Forehead

I hope so, I DO NOT want Hilary anywhere near it.

Clinton's done. Their whole family can go hide under a ($130 million) rock. It's very weird watching them lose like this. They don't know how to accept it.

[Iggy's Forehead]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Clinton's done. Their whole family can go hide under a ($130 million) rock. It's very weird watching them lose like this. They don't know how to accept it.

Yeah, I know she's basically done as far as the presidential nomination goes. But I just hope those rumours of Obama naming her VP are not true.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Iggy's Forehead

Yeah, I know she's basically done as far as the presidential nomination goes. But I just hope those rumours of Obama naming her VP are not true.

If Obama can't win outright, he'll have to make a deal with Clinton or maybe a compromise VP candidate, someone the delegates can get behind. He won't have the choice.
The worse outcome would be if Clinton can force a deadlock and the convention will have to choose a compromise candidate for president.

[Azure]

Alright....predictions for when you think the witch is going to dropout.

I'm thinking right before the convention.