[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I am satisfied with the return. This is way more than I thought Ras would fetch as a rental.

Disappointed that Whitecloud is part of the return. The Flames need to free up minutes for Parekh and Bruz.

Conroy saying the acquisition will not impact playing time for the younger player. Reading between the lines it tells me they intend to flip him. I also would prefer to get a player like Whitecloud over one of the prospects Vegas has. Too early to tell now, but will be interesting to see if he moves the return that comes back and see what our scouts can do with that.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I am satisfied with the return. This is way more than I thought Ras would fetch as a rental.

Disappointed that Whitecloud is part of the return. The Flames need to free up minutes for Parekh and Bruz.

Parekh isn't NHL ready enough to play every game or big minutes. Way too early to worry about anyone blocking him. Right now it's his own abilities and where he is in development that is blocking him. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays in the AHL most of next season for that matter.

Whitecloud's contract comes off the books when Parekh is only 21, so by the time he is ready for the top 4, Whitecloud likely won't be an issue.

For now, when they want to get Parekh into games, Pachal or Hanley are the guys they probably shift over for him.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Conroy saying the acquisition will not impact playing time for the younger player. Reading between the lines it tells me they intend to flip him. I also would prefer to get a player like Whitecloud over one of the prospects Vegas has. Too early to tell now, but will be interesting to see if he moves the return that comes back and see what our scouts can do with that.

or they move one of Hanley/Pachal...but the point still stands.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I can't wait until we don't learn and wait to trade Coleman and Kadri next year as well.

Im still waiting for you to follow up on your claim of this return being worse than they could of got at the last deadline with what it was CC turned down.

Or did you just make that up?

[BagoPucks]

Not a horrible return for a guy we drafted and developed with a 2nd rounder. We need to hit on these picks we get. Also Whitecloud being here is not a bad thing for guys like Brz and Parekh as they need to earn their icetime and depth is nice to have. Now go scouting and make those picks count!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He is top 20 in the NHL in TOI/gp and in points.

You are suggesting there are at least 62 guys better than that......not likely.

RA is and has been a very very good player (sans last season) but his contract status limited the return. I think overall CC did ok for a rental which he is at this point.

Well being an ideal 3rd best D on a contender doesn’t mean there are 62 guy better .

I think he’s somewhere in the 35-50th best D in the league .

[Njord]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

I’ve seen a few posts saying “Conroys hands were tied”. No, he put himself in this position when he didn’t trade Rasmus last trade deadline. This was an entirely predictable outcome and a let down from flames management.

If you're this upset by what the Flames got today imagine how upset you'd be by the paltry return he would of got last year. Flames would have been lucky to get a second rounder

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im still waiting for you to follow up on your claim of this return being worse than they could of got at the last deadline with what it was CC turned down.

Or did you just make that up?

It was a sellers market last year. Look at the Brandon Carlo trade.

[getbak]

The radio interview: https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/flames-...dersson-trade/

[Winsor_Pilates]

Seems fine.
Conroy making it clear the no extension impacted offers; so not surprised the return is meh.
We will suck for the next 24 months & hopefully draft some great talent.
It'll be 3-5 years before Conroy's work can really be completely judged.

[MacDaddy77]

Whitecloud should not be here long enough to get a jersey pressed.


Conroy should already be contacting all the teams that were interested in Andersson and telling them Whitecloud is available and doesn’t have trade protection

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

It was a sellers market last year. Look at the Brandon Carlo trade.

The deals are similar value wise

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

man this 960 feed is so quiet

Most average fans don’t get overly excited about rebuilds.

[sa226]

There a part of me that is surprised that Vegas was willing to include Whitecloud.

I known on the surface it's underwhelming from our perspective, but he's a fixture in their top 4.

I thought Vegas was after Andersson to replace Pietrangelo. Instead they paid a 1st and a 2nd to basically upgrade Whitecloud. It's a definite upgrade for them, but how much of an upgrade?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well being an ideal 3rd best D on a contender doesn’t mean there are 62 guy better .

I think he’s somewhere in the 35-50th best D in the league .

He said there were at least 2 guys better on most teams in the NHL.

31 other teams X 2 = 62.

I was being a bit hyperbolic of course but to make the point that RA is a very good Dman.

[cral12]

Abram Wiebe bloodlines: former NHL dman great uncle Keith Brown

"A prominent factor in Abram’s decision to go all in on hockey was his great-uncle, Keith Brown. Brown played over 15 seasons in the NHL, accumulating more than 800 games throughout his career with the Chicago Blackhawks and Florida Panthers.

Brown was known for his work ethic and toughness he brought to the lineup, something that Abram is trying to replicate as he continues to progress through the Golden Knights pipeline."

https://thehockeywriters.com/abram-w...-organization/

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Most average fans don’t get overly excited about rebuilds.

I think it's that most of their audience would be watching Barn Burner instead

[Monahammer]

Flames fanhood is just more pg masochism, change my mind

[TheScorpion]

Funny to compare this deal with the Carlo deal ... I see more than a few similarities between Carlo and Whitecloud. I think they're extremely comparable players.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Funny to compare this deal with the Carlo deal ... I see more than a few similarities between Carlo and Whitecloud. I think they're extremely comparable players.

Man does Treliving suck lol.