04-25-2025, 07:33 AM
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#821
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: in a swamp, tied to a cypress tree
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I have become comfortably numb (except for a few random moments here and there, and those are short but treacherous).
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04-25-2025, 10:08 AM
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#822
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
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I just wanted to reply to this small point quoted. Not to dismiss your feelings, but I don’t believe it’s bleak to live in the moment. That’s real. Today is literally the only thing that actually exists. Cliche return: tomorrow isn’t guaranteed.
I’ve had to work hard at erasing 99% of my future expectations for myself and my kid. I was spending unsustainable amounts of time and stress worrying about the future, and I did so for a long time.
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If I can add to this... the original comment was that you're (Scrambler) living in the moment to not think about the future. This is half-awesome, and I commend you! Living in the past and future is basically a depression/anxiety cocktail.
What if we reframed it slightly to living in the moment is important because humans are comically terrible at predicting the future? I find it's critical to realize we're supposed to be worried all the time. That doesn't make it true, it just means your human brain is humaning like a MFer.
I totally get the fear about your kids. I've got one looking at entering the last quarter of his schooling which means we're looking at University/College options, and I admit fully I have zero idea what to recommend he do. The most important thing is we super don't know what's going to happen. AI could kill us all or provide us a level of abundance unheard of in human history. If the latter happens, those of us who worried too hard are going to look like total ass clowns. If the former happens... well... great news, the debate won't matter much.
For me it's helpful to realize that this planet and society has been rapidly exploding since I was a kid. That's not to say that we ignore all problems, but more to say we tend to figure it out. Things get better but it feels like they get worse. Sometimes they have to get worse first. The graph by and large though is moving up and to the right.
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04-25-2025, 11:09 AM
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#823
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Franchise Player
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Russic again with the top shelf psychiatry lesson.
I need a constant reminder to live in the moment. I auto-worry about the future the moment I wake up. Maybe that's because I have kids? Nothing brings me more pure joy than being in the moment with the kids, so I should be able to recognize this more.
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04-25-2025, 11:19 AM
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#824
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Russic
If I can add to this... the original comment was that you're (Scrambler) living in the moment to not think about the future. This is half-awesome, and I commend you! Living in the past and future is basically a depression/anxiety cocktail.
What if we reframed it slightly to living in the moment is important because humans are comically terrible at predicting the future? I find it's critical to realize we're supposed to be worried all the time. That doesn't make it true, it just means your human brain is humaning like a MFer.
I totally get the fear about your kids. I've got one looking at entering the last quarter of his schooling which means we're looking at University/College options, and I admit fully I have zero idea what to recommend he do. The most important thing is we super don't know what's going to happen. AI could kill us all or provide us a level of abundance unheard of in human history. If the latter happens, those of us who worried too hard are going to look like total ass clowns. If the former happens... well... great news, the debate won't matter much.
For me it's helpful to realize that this planet and society has been rapidly exploding since I was a kid. That's not to say that we ignore all problems, but more to say we tend to figure it out. Things get better but it feels like they get worse. Sometimes they have to get worse first. The graph by and large though is moving up and to the right.
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04-25-2025, 09:47 PM
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#825
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 福岡市
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Originally Posted by Geraldsh
Try to spend more time with your kids, especially outside. Walk in a park, toss a ball around, whatever they like doing. Their enjoyment will naturally lift your spirits too. You may be surprised to find it works better than gummies or beer.
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Thank you. I don't use gummies too often really. And I'm with my kids in the evenings. My favorite part of the day. If anyone is keeping me alive it's those girls. I just try to not think too much about their future with or without me.
I also decided that with less income, I focus more on their RESP's instead of my RRSP.
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04-28-2025, 02:01 PM
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#826
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Russic again with the top shelf psychiatry lesson.
I need a constant reminder to live in the moment. I auto-worry about the future the moment I wake up. Maybe that's because I have kids? Nothing brings me more pure joy than being in the moment with the kids, so I should be able to recognize this more.
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And yet, almost nobody does... being in the moment is incredibly hard and it takes work. You're trying undo sh*t-tons of evolutionary wiring, so go easy on yourself. In many ways (as you point out), having kids can make it both easier and harder to be in the moment.
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You are Higgins from Ted Lasso.
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I've never been so close to changing my avatar.
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06-12-2025, 09:44 AM
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#827
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sunnyvale nursing home
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0/10. Record anxiety levels. Wondering if anyone has recommendations for a counsellor or psychologist, particularly for someone dealing with a spouse with severe mental illness, and potential separation and divorce issues. My wife is in a relapse but she has a complete lack of awareness of her symptoms and is also making a lot of bad decisions, work, financial, friend, and marriage wise. I feel powerless to do anything with her divorce request, and her having cut everyone out who was in her support circle.
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06-12-2025, 09:55 AM
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#828
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Sorry to hear. My wife didn't have mental illness but her midlife crisis certainly teetered on her being a little crazy and making poor decisions. My aunt's diagnosis with terminal cancer during the same timeline provided a bit of a distraction for me and I probably should have seeked more help than I did as it wasn't easy dealing with a partner of 30+ years in the blink of an eye turning on me. That said after a couple of years I'm slowly building myself back together and it's important to realize that no matter how bad you feel today, it's a long game and things will ultimately get better once this timeline is put behind you.
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Jiri Hrdina,
Nancy,
Russic,
Sainters7,
Scroopy Noopers,
troutman
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06-12-2025, 10:06 AM
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#829
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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I’m proud of you Erick. You are coping with your situation with grace.
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06-12-2025, 11:09 AM
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#830
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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The long game is no better than the current game. The game is rigged to f you over. Again and again and....
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06-12-2025, 12:26 PM
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#831
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy
0/10. Record anxiety levels. Wondering if anyone has recommendations for a counsellor or psychologist, particularly for someone dealing with a spouse with severe mental illness, and potential separation and divorce issues. My wife is in a relapse but she has a complete lack of awareness of her symptoms and is also making a lot of bad decisions, work, financial, friend, and marriage wise. I feel powerless to do anything with her divorce request, and her having cut everyone out who was in her support circle.
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You can use workplace employee family assistance programs often to find a counsellor / psychologist for free up to X number of sessions. Both my wife and I have used them on separate occasions for separate issues. Take a look through your works benefits to see if you have that as an option.
Addiction is a bastard to deal with for both the addict and everyone adjacent to them. Good luck.
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06-12-2025, 01:15 PM
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#832
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Nancy
0/10. Record anxiety levels. Wondering if anyone has recommendations for a counsellor or psychologist, particularly for someone dealing with a spouse with severe mental illness, and potential separation and divorce issues. My wife is in a relapse but she has a complete lack of awareness of her symptoms and is also making a lot of bad decisions, work, financial, friend, and marriage wise. I feel powerless to do anything with her divorce request, and her having cut everyone out who was in her support circle.
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Sorry to hear you are going through that. I'm out of the loop with regard to suggesting a counsellor or psychiatrist but I have had a fair amount of experience with mental illness, especially bipolar disorder. Some of the things you might consider are:
1. Avoid arguing or confronting your wife about her belief or behavior.
2. Try not to take comments or behavior personally
3. Keep surroundings quiet
4. Try to be as calm as you can be, and document behavior for the time when you do find professional help
5. Make a plan, support, don't push, and don't neglect yourself
Hope this helps
I am not a doctor. You can PM me if you want.
Last edited by flamesfever; 06-13-2025 at 04:27 AM.
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06-12-2025, 01:25 PM
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#833
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy
0/10. Record anxiety levels. Wondering if anyone has recommendations for a counsellor or psychologist, particularly for someone dealing with a spouse with severe mental illness, and potential separation and divorce issues. My wife is in a relapse but she has a complete lack of awareness of her symptoms and is also making a lot of bad decisions, work, financial, friend, and marriage wise. I feel powerless to do anything with her divorce request, and her having cut everyone out who was in her support circle.
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I actually have no good advice for you. My buddy went through this and took his wife around north America for various treatments probably for the tune of $150k and she ended up killing herself in the end. Sometimes the demons win. He ended up selling his company for $20MM and is re-married and happy as hell but definitely has earned some wrinkles under the eyes.
This probably doesn't help but nothing said here can help that. Brutal. Fata I wish I could help.
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