Ongoing YYCCC (Chu + Farkas) Transgressions Threat

[The Yen Man]

I hold Nenshi's staff to the same standard as Kenny's, because for weeks Nenshi was criticizing the Alberta government to implement stronger restrictions, or he will do it himself. So he set the standard for his own staff, fairly or unfairly. It's not illegal, but the it's not a good look for a public official.

[dino7c]

Nenshi is a hypocrite this isn't news

[RichieRich]

Travel within 1 province (ie to BC) really isn't THAT much of a big deal. But crossing major international boundaries and waters most certainly IS a big deal. Even if you don't (want to) believe in CoVID, just the purely political dynamite of holding any government role and doing this is analogous to signing on for a Darwin Award.
All this being said... is this sensitivity really legit or is it another flavor of the week? Is it yet another media distraction from a larger narrative we are being encouraged to forget about? perhaps another national level (or Turdeau) debacle that is quietly being shushed or ushered through approvals?

[pepper24]

The witch hunt by the left the past few days and now the silence when it’s their turn is great and totally expected.

Kenney eventually did the right thing and now Nenshi’s turn to do the same.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I think we can all agree that it’s completely off-base to compare the chief of staff of a premier and the chief of staff of a mayor.

Sure any mayor, but not our God-like, holier than thou mayor.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by pepper24

The witch hunt by the left the past few days and now the silence when it’s their turn is great and totally expected.

Kenney eventually did the right thing and now Nenshi’s turn to do the same.

Lol did the right thing? Everyone got the same pay with less responsibilities.. Except Allard.. The person who had a role in the vaccine rollout. Kenney also straight up lied several times to Albertans faces and has refused to answer a single question about this. Did the right thing? Lololol.

It's annoying and frowned upon but Nenshi isn't making the stay at home orders. He's not the one telling people they can't gather the provincial government is.

I don't like it but some municipal government worker travelling doesn't bother me like the people making the rules do. I know people that have travelled and it pissed me off quite frankly but I can't do anything about it.

Kenney's chief of staff went to the UK. Then to get around the travel ban came in from the US because they couldn't come into Canada.

It's not nearly the same thing.

I thought Rempel going when she did was annoying garbage too but it's not the same as the UCP.

Fact is Kenney made it worse by lying and his government is supposed to be setting the example.

[speede5]

Pretty sure firing someone for doing something that is perfectly legal is a great way to lose an unlawful dismissal case. This is an assistant not a policy maker.

Let the polls decide on the rest of the wankers who thought it was ok to go on a recreational vacation.

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

Kenney's chief of staff went to the UK. Then to get around the travel ban came in from the US because they couldn't come into Canada.

Why are so many people saying that there is travel ban for people returning from the UK?

The government has only suspended direct flights to/from the UK, there is no ban on people coming in. There has not been a word anywhere that says that Canadian citizens who have been to the UK cannot re-enter Canada.

He didn't "get around" the travel ban, since he couldn't take a direct flight into Canada, he had to connect.

I am not in any way defending his travel, nor am I in any way defending his choice to go to the UK in the current situation, but saying that he got around a travel ban is simply untrue. The only way I would say that he got around the travel ban is if he didn't have to quarantine for 14 days upon return.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Knut

It is covered in the Vaccine Thread and was addressed by AHS. It is mostly a nothing Burger.

I posted in that thread. I agree it's nothing and a bit overblown, but I could totally see how healthcare workers seeing dozens of doses being wasted every day legitimately become distraught seeing that. They're more sensitive to that specific issue.

It'd be akin to witnessing multiple car crashes in Calgary over a few weeks vs all of the safe vehicle trips by Calgarians for those few weeks.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Its all fun and games when the cancel culture vultures are hunting UCP, but now that Nenshi's targeted we're all supposed to act like its nbd (which it is)?

One has a competent explanation of why this might be acceptable and the other didn't. Personally, I'm reconsidering my stance on the UCP travellers now.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Its all fun and games when the cancel culture vultures are hunting UCP, but now that Nenshi's targeted we're all supposed to act like its nbd (which it is)?

Ban travel if it shouldn't be allowed, but firing cabinet ministers, etc, for something the gov't permits is horrifically stupid and short sighted. Same with Nenshi's CoS, etc.

I agree about the hypocrisy from the UCP vultures but I do think it's a big deal. I think it's fair to expect our elected representatives and their underlings to walk the walk.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I think we can all agree that it’s completely off-base to compare the chief of staff of a premier and the chief of staff of a mayor.

Nope. Same roll, unless I’m missing something.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Nope. Same roll, unless I’m missing something.

I should have used green text.

[Amethyst]

This annoys me because Nenshi is always telling people we should follow stricter precautions that what the province allows.

Back in the spring, when restaurants were re-opened and people were allowed to have small co-horts, he had a press conference where he told us we still needed to only go with our households. My friend and I, who both live alone and had been working from home, with our only human contact for three months being clerks in a grocery store, wanted to have dinner on a restaurant patio. We had waited, followed all the restrictions, and the province was finally allowing it. And then along comes the mayor, saying we shouldn't do it, even if it was allowed.

But when the restrictions actually advise against something, he doesn't bother to tell his staff they shouldn't.

[Superflyer]

I do not play the I cheer for my political team so here is my take that nobody cares about.
To me I think taking an international trip is ridiculous and the higher up the political food chain the worse it gets. Some low level schlep, who cares, they are in the same category as my uncle who went to Vegas a month ago because he is going through a mid\old life crisis. Now when it comes to someone at the level where they are making the rules, then it gets to much more of a blatant slap in the face type of action.

One thing is that these people probably put in their request for time off from X date to X date and it got approved. I know I have submitted many of these and never has it had a field to say where I was going. So I can forgive the supervisor for not knowing where the employee was going, whether it was Nenshi or Kenney. Now in this time maybe they should have followed up and asked where they were going, but they probably assumed they were not that dumb.

I cannot remember where I saw it but I saw the request that Tracy Allard put in and it did not say where she was going. So with this I can say Kenney may not have known where she went and it is not fully on his shoulders. Allard should have known better and not gone to Hawaii, I put that fully on her. The others, I have no idea

[GirlySports]

A person could be working form home in Hawaii and I'm not sure many employers would know.

[CliffFletcher]

A politician’s chief of staff isn’t some random employee. It’s their closest colleague. Someone who they work closely with every day. Someone who has to be reached while they’re away from the office, including on vacation. The idea that a politician would not know where their chief of staff is going on vacation beggars all belief.

[CaptainCrunch]

A chief of staff is a key strategist as well, that person usually also runs the election campaign of the candidate.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

So with this I can say Kenney may not have known where she went and it is not fully on his shoulders. Allard should have known better and not gone to Hawaii, I put that fully on her. The others, I have no idea

She was the minister in charge of emergency management - in the middle of a crisis.

If someone is in that position, and doesn't tell people where she's going, and if her boss doesn't make sure he knows where she's going, that also a failure.

[The Yen Man]

Again, it's nothing illegal. It's just a bad look. It's a bad look on Kenny, and it's a bad look on Nenshi.