Also, I've seen people say things like the republicans will never let a lot of Obama's ideas pass, which all see like good ideas, why are the republicans so against Obama? Why are they being this difficult?
Also, I've seen people say things like the republicans will never let a lot of Obama's ideas pass, which all see like good ideas, why are the republicans so against Obama? Why are they being this difficult?
Many reasons.
In general, the republicans have had a scorched earth policy against democratic leadership ever since the Clinton administration. They decided that it is worth shutting the government down on multiple occasions simply to weaken and/or expose what they view as democratic immorality or poor governance. In that respect, they've simply made it a game plan to hate any and all democratic agendas.
There is a clear constituency that is against Obama because they're flat out "uncomfortable" with him. Make of that what you will, but it's real and it's a factor.
By and large though, American politics are kinda like the d-bag supervisor that hears your idea in private, tells you not to go to the boss with it... and the next thing you know, the boss is talking about how your supervisor had a great idea!
Case in point is healthcare politics in the US. The republicans did all they could to stop the ACA. They said it was a fiscal disaster blah blah blah. But when GW Bush was in office, they passed Medicare Part D which was never funded and is a fiscal disaster.
Neither team wants the other to get a "win" and they'll tell any lie and resist any initiative to prevent it.
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Money? They shut down govt to the tune of 24 billion for no reason.
It's not money. It's obstruction.
I basically have a 10th graders knowledge of politics, I've always avoided it like the plague.
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Many reasons.
In general, the republicans have had a scorched earth policy against democratic leadership ever since the Clinton administration. They decided that it is worth shutting the government down on multiple occasions simply to weaken and/or expose what they view as democratic immorality or poor governance. In that respect, they've simply made it a game plan to hate any and all democratic agendas.
There is a clear constituency that is against Obama because they're flat out "uncomfortable" with him. Make of that what you will, but it's real and it's a factor.
By and large though, American politics are kinda like the d-bag supervisor that hears your idea in private, tells you not to go to the boss with it... and the next thing you know, the boss is talking about how your supervisor had a great idea!
Case in point is healthcare politics in the US. The republicans did all they could to stop the ACA. They said it was a fiscal disaster blah blah blah. But when GW Bush was in office, they passed Medicare Part D which was never funded and is a fiscal disaster.
Neither team wants the other to get a "win" and they'll tell any lie and resist any initiative to prevent it.
I see. So essentially they'll never back each others ideas/proposals simply because of their hate for one another?
Lastly.., Obama is the president, so shouldn't he have veto/last say on any idea? No matter what the republicans or anyone says? Obviously this is a huge piece that I'm oblivious on.
I basically have a 10th graders knowledge of politics, I've always avoided it like the plague.
I see. So essentially they'll never back each others ideas/proposals simply because of their hate for one another?
Lastly.., Obama is the president, so shouldn't he have veto/last say on any idea? No matter what the republicans or anyone says? Obviously this is a huge piece that I'm oblivious on.
Yes, as President, Obama can veto any bill he doesn't agree with (and has promised to do with such things as ending Net Neutrality and Republicans trying to push for a 20 week abortion ban).
The issue is that currently these legislators have spent so much time and effort trying to repeal and defund the Affordable Care Act that they aren't actually putting any bills on his desk in order to be signed or vetoed. There simply isn't anything getting done at all because when they do put a bill forward to get something done, they tie it to repealing/defunding the ACA.
They desperately want to stop everything that Obama is trying to do.
I basically have a 10th graders knowledge of politics, I've always avoided it like the plague.
I see. So essentially they'll never back each others ideas/proposals simply because of their hate for one another?
Lastly.., Obama is the president, so shouldn't he have veto/last say on any idea? No matter what the republicans or anyone says? Obviously this is a huge piece that I'm oblivious on.
Well, it's a bit asymmetric.
He can veto anything that comes to him once, so blocking things that he doesn't like is easy.
The problem comes when you want to push through your own legislation. The House and Senate need to pass the legislation before it goes to Obama. And due to the Senate's rules, a minority or reasonable numbers can effectively halt any piece of legislation.
So he's good to go to stop ideas he doesn't like, but much weaker in pushing through those that he does.
And thus begins the Republican's drive to give the Democrats the House, Senate and White House in 2016 on a silver platter. You know they will not be able to control themselves the next 20 months and will self-destruct. Of course they can always gerrymander their way out of the hole they dig themselves.
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As thousands of abortion foes surged through the city on their annual protest march to the Supreme Court, Republicans muscled legislation through the House on Thursday tightening federal restrictions on abortions. The vote came after internal divisions forced them into an embarrassing fumble of a similar bill.
Even as a White House veto threat all but ensured the bill would never become law, the House voted by a near party-line 242-179 to permanently bar federal funds for any abortion coverage. The measure would also block tax credits for many people and businesses buying abortion coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law.
GOP leaders pushed the measure to the House floor hours after abruptly abandoning another bill banning most late-term abortions because a rebellion led by female Republican lawmakers left them short of votes.
While that stumble underscored the challenges GOP leaders face in controlling their newly enlarged House majority, they were eager to act the same day that March for Life protesters streamed through town to protest the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion.
"I urge my colleagues to stand with the hundreds of thousands of people out on the Mall right now by voting for this bill," said House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif. "Stand up and commit to creating an America that values every life."
Democrats accused the GOP of an assault on women's freedom and painted Republicans as trying to placate the marchers not far from the Capitol.
"They certainly wanted to appeal, I would say pander, to that group," said Rep. Janice Schakowsky, D-Ill.
The approved bill would permanently ban the use of federal money for nearly all abortions — a prohibition that's already in effect but which Congress must renew each year.
It would also go further. The bill would bar individuals and many employers from collecting tax credits for insurance plans covering abortion that they pay for privately and purchase through exchanges established under Obama's Affordable Care Act. It would also block the District of Columbia from using its money to cover abortions for lower-income women.
also today, James Inhofe, the new Republican head of the Senate’s Environment Committee, who refers to the Bible quite a bit, has come out swinging against scientists who say humans effect climate change.
This guy is the head of the environment, unbelievable as it may seem.
I just love how Republicans want to keep government out of our everyday lives.
Unless we're women, black, gay, transgender, etc. But then this is a party that thinks corporations and zygotes deserve more rights than do actual living women.
I don't want to live in this country for the next two years.
State Rep. Sally Kern has filed three measures aimed at the gay community.
House Bill 1599 is dubbed the “Preservation and Sovereignty of Marriage Act.” House Bill 1598 is called the “Freedom to Obtain Conversion Therapy Act.” A third measure would allow businesses to refuse to provide services to the gay community, among others.
Omg omg omg omg! Guess who's back! EDIT: Dangit, the thumbnail ruins the surprise.
Go to the five minute mark.
Awesome.
I just started watching her whole speech. Not sure I can make it all through, but I will post some things she says.
- can find Iowans out on their porches proudly clinging to their guns, God and Constitution.
-makes jokes about Obama eating dogs.
-Muslims are evil
-talks about income gap and says. when everyone rises together. with conservative, proven free market principles that incentivize pursuing capital and investment and innovation. it results in lasting prosperity for everyone.
-decentralize federal government
- I think her TelePrompTer goes at about the 28 minute mark, because she is just rambling incoherently, at this point until the end.
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6 years? What's Obama done to make them so against him for basically his entire term?
He's black and won two elections on ideas they know resonate with the populace and have a good chance of working. They can't let that happen in their minds. That is especially so as the right wing portion of the GOP is who is running the party. There are plenty of center-right republicans...they just don't have a voice in the party right now. And as everyone saw with Romney if you are center-right going into the primaries you better be firmly right coming out of them if you want to win the nomination.
And people may roll their eyes at the first two words of this post but it is a very very very very real factor. That undercurrent is present and it guides people's thinking.
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker John Boehner is inviting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (neh-ten-YAH'-hoo) to address a joint session of Congress next month and discuss the threat from Iran.
This is pretty crazy. Basically this is the Republicans undermining the POTUS trying to deal with Iran and their nuclear program. I guess in a way Israel is doing the same.
Obama should cut the money they send to Israel if they want to be dicks.
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, Obama is the president, so shouldn't he have veto/last say on any idea? No matter what the republicans or anyone says? Obviously this is a huge piece that I'm oblivious on.
