What good things would Canada receive if Biden was in office?
hmmm question. So you had all these AB oil and gas companies defect to the US the past 4 years because of the who gives a flying eff about the climate Repubs, will some of them come back?
There is no way Biden will just give these guys free reign to do whatever the hell they want.
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What ‘good things’ has Canada received with Trump in office the past 4 years? It boggles the mind anyone can still push a narrative that Trump is better than Biden or Biden would be as bad for a foreign ally as trump has been. The guy has taken the biggest dump on political decorum, has pushed a message of ‘America First’ while bullying Allies and trumpeting his good relationships with know dictators... all while he actually hurts the very people who voted him in... yet still there are scenarios that have this melting hippo winning a second term..?? Is this real life? Trump moving on from being president would be the single greatest thing that could happen for the WORLD let alone Canada. I hope to see him jet-setting off to his BFF in Russia... how sad will that be?
Good points and let's not forget that Trump legitimized the alt right movement around the world. Look at Brasil, Hungary, Poland, near wins in France and Holland etc. And the whole Brexit movement and subsequent rise of Boris Johnson. Even here we are starting to see people like Bernier popping up. These people need to go back to the fringes. Now they are centre stage.
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This blind, blanket judgement is what led to Trump in the first place.
Pretty sure Comey and his emails debacle 11 days before the election paired with Russian meddling is what walked Trump over the finish line; how there isn’t outrage over these facts from the staunch republicans is concerning. When your willing to accept power no matter the cost even going as far as to be ok with foreign adversaries meddling with the democratic process of your countries electorate for the president that is deplorable and those who vote for trump because he’s a ‘businessman’ and is ‘helping’ their bank account are as blind as bats and have lost what America was known for for so long which was patriotism.
Is every trump voter a racist, xenophobic, bigoted person? Most likely not but it’s undeniable that those who do fall under those categories are homerun votes for Trump and those who don’t fall under those categories but still vote for trump are missing on just how significant and important this election is... Disappointed it’s even come to this honestly and it just makes me think maybe Mike Judge’s Idiocracy was only wrong about the timeline as it seems to be taking place down there at an alarming rate.
I mean do trump voters realize that on a world stage their country looks like the biggest joke? It’s laughable how sad this all is even though it’s really quite heartbreaking what good Americans have had to endure through just 4 years of this nonsense.
Good points and let's not forget that Trump legitimized the alt right movement around the world. Look at Brasil, Hungary, Poland, near wins in France and Holland etc. And the whole Brexit movement and subsequent rise of Boris Johnson. Even here we are starting to see people like Bernier popping up. These people need to go back to the fringes. Now they are centre stage.
This is just it; he’s emboldened others like him around the world and given them a playbook to boot. I liked when politics weren’t explosive like they have been in America and to your point through out parts of Europe and it’s a rollercoaster ride I really just want to get off of now. Come on Biden get it done.
What good things would Canada receive if Biden was in office?
For starters, perhaps some people like yourself snapping out of this asinine delusion you're under that Trump is in any way, shape, or form a solution to anything economically and otherwise.
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Alt-right movements preceded Trump by quite a while around the world. Trump just stumbled into a situation where he could capitalize on it. He has no political or moral compass. He's an opportunist of the worst sort because he doesn't care about the outcomes.
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Pretty sure Comey and his emails debacle 11 days before the election paired with Russian meddling is what walked Trump over the finish line; how there isn’t outrage over these facts from the staunch republicans is concerning. When your willing to accept power no matter the cost even going as far as to be ok with foreign adversaries meddling with the democratic process of your countries electorate for the president that is deplorable and those who vote for trump because he’s a ‘businessman’ and is ‘helping’ their bank account are as blind as bats and have lost what America was known for for so long which was patriotism.
Is every trump voter a racist, xenophobic, bigoted person? Most likely not but it’s undeniable that those who do fall under those categories are homerun votes for Trump and those who don’t fall under those categories but still vote for trump are missing on just how significant and important this election is... Disappointed it’s even come to this honestly and it just makes me think maybe Mike Judge’s Idiocracy was only wrong about the timeline as it seems to be taking place down there at an alarming rate.
I mean do trump voters realize that on a world stage their country looks like the biggest joke? It’s laughable how sad this all is even though it’s really quite heartbreaking what good Americans have had to endure through just 4 years of this nonsense.
You make some good observation, I want to discuss the bolded above.
The fact that Trump was even close enough to put the email over the top was concerning enough for Democrats. Should have been a landslide. Republicans don't accept Russian meddling because it was not proven. To them the Mueller Report was really a nothing burger. It was a Democratic ploy from day one to impeach Trump even before he was inaugurated.
What is the definition racist, xenophobic, bigoted person. These terms are not often thrown out there to accuse people, such as accusing Joe Rogan for example. The left has made these definitions almost worthless. Is a voter who is concerned about trade and immigrants a racist and xenophobe? For example in Canada, we take in 300,000 immigrants a year. I think that is too high as we may not have the recourses to provide the proper services. Am I a racist? Am I a racist if I'm white but not a racist if I'm not?
Finally the biggest joke part. I don't buy this. Because Macron and Trudeau go into a corner and laugh at Trump like school boys, Trump is a joke? Trudeau gets blasted on the world stage for his backstabbing and non-committal of things more so then Trump. Trump gets the red-carpet treatment wherever he goes, from England to India to China even. I remember when Obama was left at the airport in Beijing to fend for himself.
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Alt-right movements preceded Trump by quite a while around the world. Trump just stumbled into a situation where he could capitalize on it. He has no political or moral compass. He's an opportunist of the worst sort because he doesn't care about the outcomes.
This is true, but why? Because the alt-right has just become more "racist and intolerant"? Or has the left pushed things too far creating this leftover group on the right that needs a home and is growing.
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It seems that most heavy right wing movements these days are in countries that have large immigration numbers, but no plan on what to do with immigrants once they are in country.
Lack of integration, or plan towards integration. Immediately creates an 'other'. Isolated communities of both the people coming in, looking for safety within their own language/culture, and the natives who feel threatened by the lack of commonality. The problem is fear, mostly.
Communities that embrace newcomers, and immigrants who embrace the community don't seem to have as many far right wing problems.
The States have a unique problem, because they haven't integrated groups from hundreds of years ago, very well. Canada with the indigenous population, same issue.
That's a view from a distance anyway. I'm standing way over here by myself, and I hate everybody.
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You make some good observation, I want to discuss the bolded above.
The fact that Trump was even close enough to put the email over the top was concerning enough for Democrats. Should have been a landslide. Republicans don't accept Russian meddling because it was not proven. To them the Mueller Report was really a nothing burger. It was a Democratic ploy from day one to impeach Trump even before he was inaugurated.
What is the definition racist, xenophobic, bigoted person. These terms are not often thrown out there to accuse people, such as accusing Joe Rogan for example. The left has made these definitions almost worthless. Is a voter who is concerned about trade and immigrants a racist and xenophobe? For example in Canada, we take in 300,000 immigrants a year. I think that is too high as we may not have the recourses to provide the proper services. Am I a racist? Am I a racist if I'm white but not a racist if I'm not?
Finally the biggest joke part. I don't buy this. Because Macron and Trudeau go into a corner and laugh at Trump like school boys, Trump is a joke? Trudeau gets blasted on the world stage for his backstabbing and non-committal of things more so then Trump. Trump gets the red-carpet treatment wherever he goes, from England to India to China even. I remember when Obama was left at the airport in Beijing to fend for himself.
With regards to the racist/xenophobic/bigoted comments I direct attention to the many times Trump has undoubtedly championed these people so much as recently telling them Proud boys movement to stand back but stand by... good people on both sides of the ‘Jews will not replace us’ movement, and on and on. I value my thumbs and don’t feel like I really need to drill down into the many, many examples Trump has provided that show just how much he pushes the narratives that he pushes because he needs those votes.
I don’t care about the pageantry some of the foreign countries have extended to this bafoon; the people is who I’m talking about forget about the politics. Do you really think that the majority of people around the world don’t see this man and what he has turned America into as a joke?? It’s embarrassing to watch anymore.
With regards to the Mueller report; it was mishandled and you still have Mueller saying that wrong doing was demonstrated; that the president isn’t completely absolved with regards to the meddling... who knows fully just how involved Trump was with the meddling but what we do know for sure is Putin wanted trump to win and that according to 17 different counter intelligence agencies in the states Russia did influence or try to influence the outcome of the election and celebrated Trumps victory as much as those who actually voted for the guy... does that not concern anyone?? What did Putin and Trump talk about in Helsinki?? Why is Trump such a push over around Putin while he turns around and says his classic ‘No one has ever been as tough on Russia as me’ Bull####.
I’m sorry but there is no defending this man; he is a cancer to the Democratic process and he continues to push forward a narrative of lies and deceit all while smiling happily in front of those who vote for him while he dismantles institutions that took decades to build. Get the man out of office already it’s laughable this has gone on for this long... could you imagine if Obama had done half of the crap Trump has pulled the past 4 years??? They freaked out when he wore a tan suit for a press conference mean while we are lucky to see Trump hold a proper press conference where he takes actual questions from all media outlets without spewing proven lie after lie after lie... it’s exhausting to watch anymore and I can only hope we are ‘rounding the corner’ on his presidential term.
You make some good observation, I want to discuss the bolded above.
The fact that Trump was even close enough to put the email over the top was concerning enough for Democrats. Should have been a landslide. Republicans don't accept Russian meddling because it was not proven. To them the Mueller Report was really a nothing burger. It was a Democratic ploy from day one to impeach Trump even before he was inaugurated.
What is the definition racist, xenophobic, bigoted person. These terms are not often thrown out there to accuse people, such as accusing Joe Rogan for example. The left has made these definitions almost worthless. Is a voter who is concerned about trade and immigrants a racist and xenophobe? For example in Canada, we take in 300,000 immigrants a year. I think that is too high as we may not have the recourses to provide the proper services. Am I a racist? Am I a racist if I'm white but not a racist if I'm not?
Finally the biggest joke part. I don't buy this. Because Macron and Trudeau go into a corner and laugh at Trump like school boys, Trump is a joke? Trudeau gets blasted on the world stage for his backstabbing and non-committal of things more so then Trump. Trump gets the red-carpet treatment wherever he goes, from England to India to China even. I remember when Obama was left at the airport in Beijing to fend for himself.
There's a self-righteousness in this thread that's pretty gross and sadly predictable... just blindly calling people that voted for Trump as racist is what led to Trump winning in 2016... and it's exactly why the Democrats are running a lame candidate like Biden. Trump is a symptom, not the root cause of the problem... liberals keep ignoring this, and it's why politics are so insanely polarized right now, and why it's getting worse. The Left keeps moving further left, and the Right keeps moving further right...
Peter Zeihan does a good job explaining how the US has slowly been self-isolating for a while now.
There's a self-righteousness in this thread that's pretty gross and sadly predictable... just blindly calling people that voted for Trump as racist is what led to Trump winning in 2016... and it's exactly why the Democrats are running a lame candidate like Biden. Trump is a symptom, not the root cause of the problem... liberals keep ignoring this, and it's why politics are so insanely polarized right now, and why it's getting worse. The Left keeps moving further left, and the Right keeps moving further right...
Peter Zeihan does a good job explaining how the US has slowly been self-isolating for a while now.
American politics is maddening because often two sets of rules seem to be applied and it’s always rules that seem to favour the right. Also did I out and out call every person who voted for trump those things?? No. I said that trump routinely champions and advocates for the groups of people who support that ideology and Trump also personally exhibits this line of thinking too and makes no bones about it. I don’t care to affiliate with left or with right parties honestly; it doesn’t matter which party you look at over time there always seems to be corruption that leads to one party moving back in while the other moves out and it’s a constant demonstration of one step forward two steps back... but with Trump it’s been 50 steps back and I feel like I’m friggen Frank Grimes when trying to outline the obvious fact of what trump is and what he embodies. Anyone who votes for this man is missing the point honestly and that’s not a crazy stance or view point... at least I’m hoping it’s not.
What good things would Canada receive if Biden was in office?
Besides the stupid tariffs we would have a decent man to our south to deal with, In no measure can anyone claim that Trump does anything for Canada including KS
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‘There are consequences to his actions; it’s not just a joke, it’s not funny...
Those actions embolden other people to be mean... and divisive... and racist
And it frays at the fabric of all of our lives and it affects how our children see the World and how they treat each other... it affects how our families get along and how the world sees America... that’s why Joe Biden talks about the soul of America...’
I mean is he wrong???
Again no I’m not nor do I think anyone in this thread is saying that every single person who voted for Trump is or has personal characteristics of being xenophobic, racist or bigoted... but Trump DOES undoubtedly and indisputably demonstrate these values and on the daily! This is the President of the USA we are talking about... enough is enough already, get this ####### out of the White House.
