Israel declares war on Hamas

[Skootenbeeten]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ariel-...aza-captivity/


Children kidnapped all over some land. Makes sense to some here, they would gladly murder for a house as they have said numerous times.



Must be hard to look in the mirror supporting a side that kidnaps children and rapes their victims.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ariel-...aza-captivity/

Children kidnapped all over some land. Makes sense to some here, they would gladly murder for a house as they have said numerous times.

Must be hard to look in the mirror supporting a side that kidnaps children and rapes their victims.

Really horrible experience. Can’t imagine what they’re going through, which is why this conflict needs to end. Seems like the family wouldn’t take kindly to your mindless “bloodlust” (I think that’s what you’re calling it?), Bibi bootlicking, and desire for death more than hostages being released based on this:

Now, said Shnaider, he’s waiting for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to sign a hostage deal.

“We can’t wait another six months until another government comes into power,” he said. “We need to support who we have today, we have Biden today, we have Bibi today.”

Shnaider said he wants to tell Netanyahu not to tell his family that he understands their pain and suffering.

“If you understood what we felt, you’d be doing something,” he said. “Another day will come to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah, there will be more days for that. Release the little boys and release every single hostage.”

Unless, because they’re a Jewish person quoted in the Times of Israel, you consider them a liar as well?

Speaking of, still waiting for you to answer any of my previous questions. I can post them again if you’ve forgotten but they were really easy to remember and answer for normal people.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Really horrible experience. Can’t imagine what they’re going through, which is why this conflict needs to end. Seems like the family wouldn’t take kindly to your mindless “bloodlust” (I think that’s what you’re calling it?), Bibi bootlicking, and desire for death more than hostages being released based on this:



Unless, because they’re a Jewish person quoted in the Times of Israel, you consider them a liar as well?

Speaking of, still waiting for you to answer any of my previous questions. I can post them again if you’ve forgotten but they were really easy to remember and answer for normal people.

Agreed Hamas needs to be wiped out and the hostages returned, where is your "both sides are bad" now? Seems like you really want to move along quickly when the hostages are brought up. You are so busy kissing Hamas ass I know you really like changing the topic. How do you justify 5year old hostages? Seems even outside of your realm of bloodlust and racism which is hard to believe.



I know you're a big fan of murdering people over land but really child hostages too? Cmon man have a bit of humanity.


Oh you still yammering about that random LGBT question you brought up about me not supporting other LGBT issues? Sorry dude I support them surviving and not being thrown off buildings, that's kinda my main concern, I know you put your political beliefs before the lives of people but some of us don't.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Must be hard to look in the mirror supporting a side that kidnaps children and rapes their victims.

I'm confused. I thought you were pro Israel?

[Zary's-Mustache]

Why even entertain that lying liar? He's obviously just trolling and making up lie after lie. He would fit right into Netanyahu's government.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Agreed Hamas needs to be wiped out and the hostages returned, where is your "both sides are bad" now? Seems like you really want to move along quickly when the hostages are brought up. You are so busy kissing Hamas ass I know you really like changing the topic. How do you justify 5year old hostages? Seems even outside of your realm of bloodlust and racism which is hard to believe.



I know you're a big fan of murdering people over land but really child hostages too? Cmon man have a bit of humanity.


Oh you still yammering about that random LGBT question you brought up about me not supporting other LGBT issues? Sorry dude I support them surviving and not being thrown off buildings, that's kinda my main concern, I know you put your political beliefs before the lives of people but some of us don't.

You’re still confused, “both sides are bad” and “kissing Hamas ass”… which is it? If you can’t even make a coherent point how do you think people are going to take you seriously enough to engage?

If you don’t mind, go ahead and answer the question about what LGBTQ issues you care about, since you were pretending to care about them. I mean, I assume (unless you’re mentally ill) that you’d be against anyone being thrown off buildings regardless of their sex, gender, orientation, etc, so you must have brought LGBTQ people up because you care about the community right? And if you do, you must have an example of an issue closer to home you care about? Because you definitely don’t bring them up to use them to make a point in your internet argument despite not actually caring about them, right?

It shouldn’t be a hard question. And it shouldn’t require stacking lies on top of lies to avoid it. You can make up whatever you want about me but it’s pretty weird you can’t even answer a simple question. Kind of seems like if you’d use LGBTQ folks as pawns to justify hating Palestinians that you’re probably using these poor Israeli kids as pawns, doesn’t it?

Unless you can figure out how to answer a simple question, I guess.

[Itse]

It is indeed extremely important to remind everyone that the IDF is not blowing Palestinian LGBTQ people to bits because they are LGBTQ.

I'm sure the Palestinian LGBTQ people really appreciate that the bombing is not discriminatory in that way.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Or those in the West Bank who have nothing to do with it, but have their homes bulldozed and or stolen.

Care to elaborate on bulldozing or stealing houses? Last time it was brought up, it was proven false.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=7450

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Why even entertain that lying liar? He's obviously just trolling and making up lie after lie. He would fit right into Netanyahu's government.

I have been wondering why you always accuse others of lies, while it is always you who is caught lying? Like lying about me changing my opinion on Ukrainian war after the draft.

[bluejays]

Just running through this last page as I haven't read anything on this topic for awhile, and my head hurts.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Care to elaborate on bulldozing or stealing houses? Last time it was brought up, it was proven false.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=7450

That's a lovely way of putting it. Watch the John Oliver piece, if you still feel Israel is innocent, well...you are a lost soul.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Itse

It is indeed extremely important to remind everyone that the IDF is not blowing Palestinian LGBTQ people to bits because they are LGBTQ.

I'm sure the Palestinian LGBTQ people really appreciate that the bombing is not discriminatory in that way.

Sarcasm aside, this is the way the Geneva convention is. If you want to kill certain group, it is genocide. If you want to kill the whole humanity - it is not.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That's a lovely way of putting it. Watch the John Oliver piece, if you still feel Israel is innocent, well...you are a lost soul.

I will not. If you want to discuss something in this thread, you need to post the content here. Referencing to some piece by Oliver is like referencing to Google. Like if I would say: Israel is right, go google it. You still disagree, that Israel is right? Google it again.

Does Oliver mention, that military leader of Hamas had brain surgery in Israel jail, that saved his life? And he responded with October 7th? I'm talking about military leader Sinwar, not political one that was assassinated lately.

highest security prisons near Beersheba had a persistent pain in the back of his neck. He trembled and had trouble walking. Yuval Bitton, then a 28-year-old dentist just a year out of medical school, suspected that his patient might be suffering from a C.V.A., an ischemic cerebrovascular accident, resulting from a life-threatening brain tumor. “He needs to be hospitalized, immediately,” Bitton advised the prison doctors.

Dr. Bitton’s diagnosis was quickly confirmed at the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba. The surgery took hours. The prisoner survived. When he returned to the prison, he thanked Bitton and the rest of the prison medical staff for having saved his life—in excellent Hebrew.

The year was 2004. The patient was Yahya Sinwar, the Palestinian who in 2017 would become the leader of Hamas in Gaza and subsequently the mastermind of the Oct. 7 attack in southern Israel in which 1,200 mostly Israeli civilians died 5and 240 were taken hostage

https://manhattan.institute/article/saving-sinwar

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

I will not. If you want to discuss something in this thread, you need to post the content here. Referencing to some piece by Oliver is like referencing to Google. Like if I would say: Israel is right, go google it. You still disagree, that Israel is right? Google it again.

Does Oliver mention, that military leader of Hamas had brain surgery in Israel jail, that saved his life? And he responded with October 7th? I'm talking about military leader Sinwar, not political one that was assassinated lately.

What does that matter to the people being kicked out of their homes?


I'm referencing John Oliver because he is a professional with professional resources I don't have and he does an excellent job of reporting on just how awful Israel treats people in the West Bank, land that isn't even Israel. It's well known the settlements are illegal for all the reasons you can find anywhere. It's less well known how Israel is undermining any attempts at peace by treating humans as rodents. You want perpetual war and enemies? That's how you do it. You want peace? Show the world you mean it. Otherwise it's all bull#### and the endless excuses blaming everyone else while pissing on humans are only achieving pulling the wool over your eyes. So you can continue to live in ignorance, or you can seek out information provided by not Israel. Go seek it out. Or, you know, keep up the bloodlust, but ignorance won't save your soul.


And yes, I know Hamas is evil too. Got it.

[Fuzz]

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektoni...53190835686698
https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektoni...34694866767146



Here are a few pieces of it. I'm sure if you cared to put any effort into it you could find the rest.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Watch the John Oliver piece, if you still feel Israel is innocent, well...you are a lost soul.

Originally Posted by Pointman

If you want to discuss something in this thread, you need to post the content here.

Watch and defend. I've written you off as a sick lost soul long ago. Prove me wrong.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1817968867387359602

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

I will not. If you want to discuss something in this thread, you need to post the content here. Referencing to some piece by Oliver is like referencing to Google. Like if I would say: Israel is right, go google it. You still disagree, that Israel is right? Google it again.

Just want to point out how ridiculous this is. I referenced a very specific episode and it's host. That in no way is similar to "just google it". Nonsense.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What does that matter to the people being kicked out of their homes?

I'm still waiting for any evidence of that.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Just want to point out how ridiculous this is. I referenced a very specific episode and it's host. That in no way is similar to "just google it". Nonsense.

So I googled John Oliver and learned that he is comedian. Well, this is pure comedy from you.

[Fuzz]

Deflect and dismiss. Solid rebuttal. You know you could look for the evidence yourself, right? Like, you have all the information of the world at your fingertips, but you need it spoon fed to you? Enlighten yourself.