2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Why are we wanting Karlsson again? There are more pressing needs.

Like getting one of his teammates

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Every time I've watched Karlsson this season, he's been awful in his own end.

He’s a high risk/high reward player. He makes mistakes, lots of times he can cover them up and other times he needs his partner to cover them up - which is why Methot was so important to that team.

[Psytic]

I think Ryan O'Reily with some retained would actually be a good pickup if we cant find a decent RW. He is 0.787 points per game the last 3 season so about as good as Monahan and MacKinnon still and only 26.

This pushes Backlund down to line 3 where he can be an ELITE third liner taking hard matchups and continuing to score at a 50 point clip with Frolik. It gives Bennett time with them so he can hopefully learn a thing or two like Tkachuk did and get his game back on track.

Chucky and O'Reilly can focus on putting pucks in the net. Not sure when Versteeg is back but he would take second like duties I think this could elevate Chucky's game to even greater heights taking easier matchups and focusing on scoring and it makes us a LOT more dangerous.

4th line we either reunite Stockton's top scoring line or we put in Klimchuck to round out the two way play.


Gaudreau Monahan Ferland
Tkachuk O'Reilly Versteeg
Bennett Backlund Frolik
Klimchuk/ Mangiapane Jankowski Hathaway


To Buffalo:
Andersson
2019 1st rounder
Stajan
Gilles
Wotherspoon?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Psytic

To Buffalo:
Andersson
2019 1st rounder
Stajan
Gilles
Wotherspoon?

These 5 for 1 trades are hilarious, they never happen for a reason and most of the time it's because of the 50 contract rule.

If you want O'Reilly from Buffalo you start with Brodie, Ferland and Valimaki plus take another bad contract from Buffalo.

[Caged Great]

If the Flames were to get Karlsson, he'd be put with Hamonic, who'd play the role of Methot.

[AT77]

I was thinking about O'Reilly as well. We need to get deeper down the middle and he's the BEST face-off man in the league and a solid two-way player. His ability to win 15-25 face-offs a night will allow us to be a better puck possession team right off the draw, which is particularly important in the offensive zone, especially on the PP.

I was thinking something along the lines of:

To Buf:
2019 1st Round Pick
Oliver Kylington
Morgan Klimchuk
Troy Brouwer (we retain $1.5 million and Buffalo has space for Brouwer at $3 million for the next 2 years and they get a veteran winger to help mentor their younger players)
Maybe 1 more prospect? Preferably not Andersson, Fox, Valimaki, Gillies, or Parsons

To Calgary:
Ryan O'Reilly (Buffalo retains $1 million so we get him at $6.5 mill per year)

Then we make another deal with Ottawa to address our Top-6 RW situation.

To Ottawa:
Sam Bennett
Emile Poirier
2020 3rd Round Pick

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (and we sign him to a 6 year $6.5 million per year contract extension)

Next, perhaps we can lure Domi away from Arizona by offering the following:

To Arizona:
Michael Frolik
Josh Healey
Spencer Foo
Hunter Shinkaruk
2020 2nd Round Pick
2019 4th Round Pick
2019 7th Round Pick

To Calgary:
Max Domi (and we sign him to a 3 year $3.25 million per year bridge-deal)
Lawson Crouse

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - O'Reilly - Domi
Jankowski - Backlund - Versteeg
Ferland - Lazar - Hathaway
Crouse (Called up next year, Ferland takes Versteeg's place, Crouse takes Ferland's place)

In regards to all of these deals, of course we can add in Andersson, Fox, Valimaki, Gillies, and/or Parsons to sweeten the deal if needed, but perferably not if Treliving can work his magic with these current offers.

This forms a solid top 9 with a 4th energy/grinding/heavy hitting line, completely built for the playoffs and the future. Money is left over to sign Tkachuk the season after for $6 million per year.

[Coach]

If the Mrazek trade is any indicator of the goalie market, I'd rather hold onto Gillies than trade him for a 4th round pick.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

These 5 for 1 trades are hilarious, they never happen for a reason and most of the time it's because of the 50 contract rule.

If you want O'Reilly from Buffalo you start with Brodie, Ferland and Valimaki plus take another bad contract from Buffalo.

Sure I can live with that. These are prospects in place of picks and Stajan is only there because we have no room for him. We can keep him doesn't matter. Create your own trade package then. Point is ROR would also be a good fit.

Ask for Kane is a first-round pick, an NHL player, a prospect and a conditional draft pick so I think for ROR we move Brodie, and a 1st rounder 2019 and insert Andersson, Gilles and some B level prospects we would get the talks started at least.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by AT77

I was thinking something along the lines of:

To Buf:
2019 1st Round Pick
Oliver Kylington
Morgan Klimchuk
Troy Brouwer (we retain $1.5 million and Buffalo has space for Brouwer at $3 million for the next 2 years and they get a veteran winger to help mentor their younger players)
Maybe 1 more prospect? Preferably not Andersson, Fox, Valimaki, Gillies, or Parsons

To Calgary:
Ryan O'Reilly (Buffalo retains $1 million so we get him at $6.5 mill per year)

Then we make another deal with Ottawa to address our Top-6 RW situation.

To Ottawa:
Sam Bennett
Emile Poirier
2020 3rd Round Pick

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (and we sign him to a 6 year $6.5 million per year contract extension)

Next, perhaps we can lure Domi away from Arizona by offering the following:

To Arizona:
Michael Frolik
Josh Healey
Spencer Foo
Hunter Shinkaruk
2020 2nd Round Pick
2019 4th Round Pick
2019 7th Round Pick

To Calgary:
Max Domi (and we sign him to a 3 year $3.25 million per year bridge-deal)
Lawson Crouse

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - O'Reilly - Domi
Jankowski - Backlund - Versteeg
Ferland - Lazar - Hathaway
Crouse (Called up next year, Ferland takes Versteeg's place, Crouse takes Ferland's place)

In regards to all of these deals, of course we can add in Andersson, Fox, Valimaki, Gillies, and/or Parsons to sweeten the deal if needed, but perferably not if Treliving can work his magic with these current offers.

This forms a solid top 9 with a 4th energy/grinding/heavy hitting line, completely built for the playoffs and the future. Money is left over to sign Tkachuk the season after for $6 million per year.

Wow - maybe buffalo will just send us ROR for a conditional in 2019?

And i'm sure the dressing room will be a great place when Ferland goes from 1L minutes to 4L

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by AT77

I was thinking about O'Reilly as well. We need to get deeper down the middle and he's the BEST face-off man in the league and a solid two-way player. His ability to win 15-25 face-offs a night will allow us to be a better puck possession team right off the draw, which is particularly important in the offensive zone, especially on the PP.

I was thinking something along the lines of:

To Buf:
2019 1st Round Pick
Oliver Kylington
Morgan Klimchuk
Troy Brouwer (we retain $1.5 million and Buffalo has space for Brouwer at $3 million for the next 2 years and they get a veteran winger to help mentor their younger players)
Maybe 1 more prospect? Preferably not Andersson, Fox, Valimaki, Gillies, or Parsons

To Calgary:
Ryan O'Reilly (Buffalo retains $1 million so we get him at $6.5 mill per year)

Then we make another deal with Ottawa to address our Top-6 RW situation.

To Ottawa:
Sam Bennett
Emile Poirier
2020 3rd Round Pick

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (and we sign him to a 6 year $6.5 million per year contract extension)

Next, perhaps we can lure Domi away from Arizona by offering the following:

To Arizona:
Michael Frolik
Josh Healey
Spencer Foo
Hunter Shinkaruk
2020 2nd Round Pick
2019 4th Round Pick
2019 7th Round Pick

To Calgary:
Max Domi (and we sign him to a 3 year $3.25 million per year bridge-deal)
Lawson Crouse

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - O'Reilly - Domi
Jankowski - Backlund - Versteeg
Ferland - Lazar - Hathaway
Crouse (Called up next year, Ferland takes Versteeg's place, Crouse takes Ferland's place)

In regards to all of these deals, of course we can add in Andersson, Fox, Valimaki, Gillies, and/or Parsons to sweeten the deal if needed, but perferably not if Treliving can work his magic with these current offers.

This forms a solid top 9 with a 4th energy/grinding/heavy hitting line, completely built for the playoffs and the future. Money is left over to sign Tkachuk the season after for $6 million per year.

I’m trying to figure out if this is serious or some elaborate troll lol

[ForeverFlameFan]

AT77... Those trades wouldn't even go through in NHL18.

[Poe969]

To everyone else: crap
To Calgary: the best players in the world!

I wish real life was.like NHL 95 (I think) where you didn't offer trades, you just made them. Anything you picked went through. Is that what we're doing now?

[Lanny_McDonald]

I can't wait for the trade deadline to pass, just so these horrendous trade proposals can die. Just a reminder to people, there are roster limits, there are contract limits, and there are cap limits. You can't stack up five contracts on one side of the ledger for one contract on the other. Most teams already have 46-48 contracts committed and are not looking to throw that balance way out of whack. You also have to offer similar value back in trade. If you're bringing in a top line player, expect to lose one in return, or at least picks/prospects where a player of similar stature may be available.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by AT77

Then we make another deal with Ottawa to address our Top-6 RW situation.

To Ottawa:
Sam Bennett
Emile Poirier
2020 3rd Round Pick

To Calgary:
Mark Stone (and we sign him to a 6 year $6.5 million per year contract extension)

Ottawa was gonna say no but once they saw that 2020 3rd rounder they just had to accept the trade.

[rhino]

I realize people like to play GM on here but geez trading roster players with prospects and draft picks for 1 guy??? There is a salary cap and roster limits that the real GM’s have to deal with.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

AT77... Those trades wouldn't even go through in NHL18.

Speaking nhl18. Last night I acquired Laine for Backlund, Brodie and 3 1st's. #options #seriouslynotserious

[Husky]

Low cost acq would be a rw like Reider from Arizona.

[sureLoss]

@TerryMarcotte: Hearing that several teams will be pitching Sens this week on Erik Karlsson. Taking on Ryan contract expected to be part of the ask.

[ForeverFlameFan]

There's no way the Flames are in on Karlsson if that's the case. We cannot afford over 13m in salary back to us.

[activeStick]

Yeah 7.25 for Ryan and 6.5 for Karlsson leaves the logistics of a deal with the Flames tough