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Old 02-07-2022, 07:59 PM   #8181
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Doubt Riley Smith is going to any team Vegas might see in the playoffs before the finals. Certainly not cheaply, and probably not at all. I assume he'll got to the East.
Yup, some Eastern GM will let them off the hook and probably overpay for him as well. Just the way it seems to always go.
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Old 02-07-2022, 08:06 PM   #8182
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Not surprised? He's never done either thing before. He's never brought in a player with term midseason and he's never dealt a player at the draft for picks.

I'd say either move would be surprising, and both together would be mind blowing.

I do think something like that would be a good idea, I just don't think the Wizard can execute that series of moves.
Didn't he trade Glencross for a couple of picks? The flames were in playoff position.
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Old 02-07-2022, 08:10 PM   #8183
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Didn't he trade Glencross for a couple of picks? The flames were in playoff position.
Not at the draft

I'm sure he would trade a player at the draft if it makes something else work though
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Old 02-07-2022, 08:30 PM   #8184
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The thing is, the draft is generally the worst time to trade players. Ideally you trade players for picks at the deadline, when players have the highest market value, and then trade picks for players on draft day, when picks have the highest market value.
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:16 PM   #8185
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If we make a trade with Philly, could we please get them to add Wade Allison? He's injured right now, and has indeed been injury-prone, but he's a big,skilled, physical power-forward that reminds me of a young Boone Jenner (only meaner). I'm a fan of his, and I think Sutter would love him. Right winger, too.

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Old 02-07-2022, 09:35 PM   #8186
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Got his game worn jersey from last season! Let's getter done, Brad! I wouldn't mind him as a depth forward piece. He can't be any worse than what Dube brings on a nightly basis (playoff Dube is a beast though).
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Old 02-07-2022, 10:08 PM   #8187
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Czarnik's per game production is actually the 5th highest on the Islanders.
That might say more about the Islanders than Czarnik.
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Old 02-07-2022, 10:25 PM   #8188
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Don't do it.
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All I know is the team has added value to make a move due to solid drafting.
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Old 02-07-2022, 10:37 PM   #8190
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Czarnik's per game production is actually the 5th highest on the Islanders.
That might say more about the Islanders than Czarnik.
Or, more likely, about the stat
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:15 PM   #8191
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I'd gladly take Czarnik back. He was a solid Flame and I'm pretty confident he'd be better than Richardson or Ritchie.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:58 PM   #8192
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If we're going for retreads, let's get ones that we were at least good when they were here. No interest in Czarnik for me.
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I would give a 6th rounder for Riley Smith to help them out but it also helps the flames get a right shot too 6 forward for a late pick.



They may have to sell a good player cheap but they can move contracts.
He's a lefty
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Old 02-08-2022, 12:12 AM   #8194
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Czarnik was the classic gapper - not good enough for the top 6, not useful enough for the bottom 6
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I'll get roasted for saying this, but part of what makes our team successful is the fact that we are BIG and physical. I don't want us getting smaller, unless it's for somebody upper-echelon like Keller or Giroux. Those qualities help teams win in the playoffs, like it or not.
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Old 02-08-2022, 06:31 AM   #8196
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I'll get roasted for saying this, but part of what makes our team successful is the fact that we are BIG and physical. I don't want us getting smaller, unless it's for somebody upper-echelon like Keller or Giroux. Those qualities help teams win in the playoffs, like it or not.
Tampa Bay's 2020/21 top 9 was basically...

Point 5'10 183
Palat 6'0 194
Gourde 5'9 173
Stamkos 6'1 193
Killorn 6'1 200
Coleman 5'11 205
Johnson 5'8 185
Maroon 6'3 230
Cirelli 6'0 190
Colton, Joseph and Kucherov weren't biggest guys either.

so I'd argue it's more about speed and tenacity. Sure, having guys like Lucic or Gudbranson may help you in a certain type of series but I still think that the Flames need to inject more speed into their lineup in order to succeed.
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Old 02-08-2022, 08:07 AM   #8197
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Tampa Bay's 2020/21 top 9 was basically...

Point 5'10 183
Palat 6'0 194
Gourde 5'9 173
Stamkos 6'1 193
Killorn 6'1 200
Coleman 5'11 205
Johnson 5'8 185
Maroon 6'3 230
Cirelli 6'0 190
Colton, Joseph and Kucherov weren't biggest guys either.

so I'd argue it's more about speed and tenacity. Sure, having guys like Lucic or Gudbranson may help you in a certain type of series but I still think that the Flames need to inject more speed into their lineup in order to succeed.
Ya but his point of replacing one of those guys with Austin Czarnik probably still holds water. Yanni Gourde instead.... Sure, your point stands up.
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Old 02-08-2022, 08:41 AM   #8198
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I'd gladly take Czarnik back. He was a solid Flame and I'm pretty confident he'd be better than Richardson or Ritchie.
He has more points than Ritchie so already better, and Czarnik can actually keep up to play
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I would rather just give Philips a chance than bring Czarnik back
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Tampa Bay's 2020/21 top 9 was basically...

Point 5'10 183
Palat 6'0 194
Gourde 5'9 173
Stamkos 6'1 193
Killorn 6'1 200
Coleman 5'11 205
Johnson 5'8 185
Maroon 6'3 230
Cirelli 6'0 190
Colton, Joseph and Kucherov weren't biggest guys either.

so I'd argue it's more about speed and tenacity. Sure, having guys like Lucic or Gudbranson may help you in a certain type of series but I still think that the Flames need to inject more speed into their lineup in order to succeed.
I've always thought that Tampa is small up front, but huge on the backend.
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