2010 NCAA football thread....

[JayP]

YES! Justice! Beavers miss the 2 point conversion after the refs gave them 4 more downs from the 1 and a free TD.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by JayP

They just did except the refs just called one of the worst pass interference calls I've ever seen on a 4th and 1 with the game on the line. Absolute f'ing joke.

That was a legit call, he had his arm wrapped around him. Big situation but that's an easy call.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by valo403

That was a legit call, he had his arm wrapped around him. Big situation but that's an easy call.

No way that's a legit call. He had his arm touching his back, not draped around like the announcers tried to BS. If you want to call that then you're going to be calling PI calls 10 times a game. It's just crappy Pac-10 refs that consistently can't handle the pressure of tense situations.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by JayP

No way that's a legit call. He had his arm touching his back, not draped around like the announcers tried to BS. If you want to call that then you're going to be calling PI calls 10 times a game. It's just crappy Pac-10 refs that consistently can't handle the pressure of tense situations.

He had the arm around the hip, that's an easy call. Sorry, but that gets called in the endzone every single time.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by valo403

He had the arm around the hip, that's an easy call. Sorry, but that gets called in the endzone every single time.

He had an arm touching his back and if that's a call every time in the endzone clearly I don't pay enough attention because there should be PI pretty much every redzone trip then.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by JayP

They will be regardless of what happens to Ohio St. based on all the projections I've seen.

Ohio St. has played a brutally easy schedule thus far (something like 117th in the country) and is getting killed by the computers.

As Lee Corso would say..."not so fast my friend".

new projections have Oklahoma as the 1 seed. No one will be able to convince me they are the best team in the country right now either....no one. This is a club that struggled to beat Air Force and Utah State. I understand their is lots of time to see this stuff sorted out, but IMO Oregon should be the undisputed top dog just based on the eyeball test with BS, TCU, Auburn, Mich St and OK all in the mix right behind them.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by transplant99

As Lee Corso would say..."not so fast my friend".

new projections have Oklahoma as the 1 seed. No one will be able to convince me they are the best team in the country right now either....no one. This is a club that struggled to beat Air Force and Utah State. I understand their is lots of time to see this stuff sorted out, but IMO Oregon should be the undisputed top dog just based on the eyeball test with BS, TCU, Auburn, Mich St and OK all in the mix right behind them.

Yeah that really came out of nowhere as all week all I read was that Boise St. pretty much had #1 sealed up.

I think OU falls to Mizzou on the road this week though. And one of LSU/Auburn are going to lose as well (they play each other) so the top 5 could see another big shake-up this week.

[MRCboicgy]

So AP has the Badgers ahead of OSU and the Coaches have OSU one spot ahead of the Badgers. At least they were smart enough to put MSU ahead of both.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

[ricoFlame]

i wonder if this is the year oregon doesn't blow it.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

i wonder if this is the year oregon doesn't blow it.

Hopefully. To be fair if Dixon doesn't blow out his knee, I think they go to the BCS championship game in 2007.

[theonlywhiteout]

6 days to my 1st colllege ball game.. Tennessee vs Alabama. Holy eff word!

[octothorp]

Just looking at the BCS standings, there's some crazy things going on. Missouri for example. One computer ranking has them 2nd overall, another says that they're not in the 25. I can't recall seeing that big a discrepancy ever before.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Just looking at the BCS standings, there's some crazy things going on. Missouri for example. One computer ranking has them 2nd overall, another says that they're not in the 25. I can't recall seeing that big a discrepancy ever before.

They'll probably get better as the season goes on. I mean right now the PW poll has Stanford seated higher than the Ducks even though Oregon won the head to head matchup by three touchdowns.

[transplant99]

I still do not understand how Oklahoma is ranked so high. Who have they beat? Texas who was absolutely schooled at home by a terrible UCLA team, and Florida State.

There is nothing in their resume to suggest they are even close to being the top team in the country. Nothing. Even more than that, the eyeball test does the same thing...at least from the two full games of theirs i have watched. Are they a good team? Sure, but best? Nope.

Confusing system is confusing.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I still do not understand how Oklahoma is ranked so high. Who have they beat? Texas who was absolutely schooled at home by a terrible UCLA team, and Florida State.

There is nothing in their resume to suggest they are even close to being the top team in the country. Nothing. Even more than that, the eyeball test does the same thing...at least from the two full games of theirs i have watched. Are they a good team? Sure, but best? Nope.

Confusing system is confusing.

Not really, the first few sets of BCS results are all based on half information, so the results are obviously going to be whacky. The formulas are setup to function at the end of the season, not half way through it.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I still do not understand how Oklahoma is ranked so high. Who have they beat? Texas who was absolutely schooled at home by a terrible UCLA team, and Florida State.

There is nothing in their resume to suggest they are even close to being the top team in the country. Nothing. Even more than that, the eyeball test does the same thing...at least from the two full games of theirs i have watched. Are they a good team? Sure, but best? Nope.

Confusing system is confusing.

Texas beating Nebraska and Florida State whooping Miami helps Oklahoma alot. Right now it's still kinda weird. It'll make alot more sense once the big team play out their conference schedules.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by valo403

Not really, the first few sets of BCS results are all based on half information, so the results are obviously going to be whacky. The formulas are setup to function at the end of the season, not half way through it.

yeah i get that this isnt likely to be the final standings, but they must base it on something to begin with, and thats what i am trying to get my head around.

Texas beating Nebraska and Florida State whooping Miami helps Oklahoma alot. Right now it's still kinda weird. It'll make alot more sense once the big team play out their conference schedules.

Texas beating Nebraska should only point to how weak Nebraska is though...at least logically. Texas suffered the worst loss of any team in the polls thus far this year when they lost at home to UCLA...big. Instead, it appears that because OK beat Texas and Texas beat Neb., they/it are giving more weight than anyone really should.

Certainly Fla. St. beating Miami the way they did was impressive, but how impressive was Miami to begin with? I mean they are in 3rd place in the Coast division in a really really weak ACC conference.

I know we could go on forever with this stuff...and thats not what I am after, moreso just trying to get a grasp on what causes an OK team and their body of work to be where they are in relation to other teams.

Another one is seeing OSU ahead of Wisconsin, particularly when comparing schedules thus far and their game on Saturday...OSU got housed.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

yeah i get that this isnt likely to be the final standings, but they must base it on something to begin with, and thats what i am trying to get my head around.



Texas beating Nebraska should only point to how weak Nebraska is though...at least logically. Texas suffered the worst loss of any team in the polls thus far this year when they lost at home to UCLA...big. Instead, it appears that because OK beat Texas and Texas beat Neb., they/it are giving more weight than anyone really should.

Certainly Fla. St. beating Miami the way they did was impressive, but how impressive was Miami to begin with? I mean they are in 3rd place in the Coast division in a really really weak ACC conference.

I know we could go on forever with this stuff...and thats not what I am after, moreso just trying to get a grasp on what causes an OK team and their body of work to be where they are in relation to other teams.

Another one is seeing OSU ahead of Wisconsin, particularly when comparing schedules thus far and their game on Saturday...OSU got housed.

You're not getting that the fomulas are based on overall strength of schedule and a variety of other variables, there's no human ranking element, it's purely plugging numbers into formulas for the BCS computer polls. Each poll is completely different too, one of them even takes last season into consideration.

[transplant99]

You're not getting that the fomulas are based on overall strength of schedule and a variety of other variables

Actually i get that quite clearly thanks, its why i am wondering how it can be in any way accurate...especially when it comes up with OSU ahead of Wisconsin...makes zero sense. There has to be a built in bias to particular schools/conferences to allow for such a result...at least looking at it from a logical point of view. If that's the case, fine. I would suggest it a really bad idea, but nothing beyond that.

I get this thing will somewhat sort itself out, particularly over the next 3 weeks or so, and we may have some sort of realistic ranking at that time...just weird to see where they have teams now based solely on SOS when i look at the same schedules and cant see any way things should be as they are.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

yeah i get that this isnt likely to be the final standings, but they must base it on something to begin with, and thats what i am trying to get my head around.



Texas beating Nebraska should only point to how weak Nebraska is though...at least logically. Texas suffered the worst loss of any team in the polls thus far this year when they lost at home to UCLA...big. Instead, it appears that because OK beat Texas and Texas beat Neb., they/it are giving more weight than anyone really should.

Certainly Fla. St. beating Miami the way they did was impressive, but how impressive was Miami to begin with? I mean they are in 3rd place in the Coast division in a really really weak ACC conference.

I know we could go on forever with this stuff...and thats not what I am after, moreso just trying to get a grasp on what causes an OK team and their body of work to be where they are in relation to other teams.

Another one is seeing OSU ahead of Wisconsin, particularly when comparing schedules thus far and their game on Saturday...OSU got housed.

You can't assume how bad Nebraska really is or Miami really is. They were highly ranked when they were beat which means everything in this system. If someone beats Boise State this year, people will jump up and down and say 'see see see, I knew they sucked" but in fact they are highly ranked right now so the teams that beat them plus the teams that beat that team will get a big boost.

I thought Wisconsin would have jumped a bit higher.