Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-09-2026, 08:59 AM   #801
PepsiFree
Participant
Participant
 
PepsiFree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief View Post
Definitely not virtue signaling and yes of course it's part of the story. The little smile emoji is what threw me off, almost a little celebratory. Might have read that wrong, oops.
It was not pretend faux?
PepsiFree is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 09:18 AM   #802
Firebot
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree View Post
It was not pretend faux?
Another quality comment. On a roll sir. Even sizzling we may say.
Firebot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 09:23 AM   #803
Firebot
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/03/09/...ite-phosphorus

The "good guys" following the rules. Israelis who are concerned for their safety should be asking why their own government weakens protections against banned munitions by using similarly banned weapons themselves. Bibi should be in prison.
White phosphorous has been used in multiple wars, including past Lebanon incursions. Nothing new unfortunately. White phosphorous and cluster bombs are pointed to with outrage a lot whenever used due to its indiscriminate attribute that impacts civilians, but when the main players also use it, it rarely gets anywhere, as opendoor pointed to recently.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munition

Last edited by Firebot; 03-09-2026 at 09:26 AM.
Firebot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 09:33 AM   #804
Doctorfever
First Line Centre
 
Doctorfever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
https://www.axios.com/2026/03/08/us-...n-fuel-strikes


Did the "good guys" make a miscalculation here?
I don’t understand why Israel would do this. I guess they are trying to put more pressure on the regime, but I personally don't like when Infastructure like this is hit (but I am not a specialist on war strategy).

I’m glad they didn’t hit the production facilities.

Don’t like the water facilities being hit even more.
__________________
____________________________________________
Doctorfever is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 09:47 AM   #805
The Yen Man
Franchise Player
 
The Yen Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctorfever View Post
I don’t understand why Israel would do this. I guess they are trying to put more pressure on the regime, but I personally don't like when Infastructure like this is hit (but I am not a specialist on war strategy).

I’m glad they didn’t hit the production facilities.

Don’t like the water facilities being hit even more.
Because Netenyahu's goal is to bring maximum pain to Iran and all it's civilians? Seems to make perfect sense to me why they would do this. Gaza has shown they don't give a crap about civilian casualties or suffering. They just want to level Iran and make sure the country never comes ahead going forward. What better way to do this than to cause as much damage as possible right now when they still have firm control over the US?
The Yen Man is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to The Yen Man For This Useful Post:
Old 03-09-2026, 09:48 AM   #806
PaperBagger'14
Franchise Player
 
PaperBagger'14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot View Post
Another quality comment. On a roll sir. Even sizzling we may say.
Faux Sizzle my nizzle
PaperBagger'14 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to PaperBagger'14 For This Useful Post:
Old 03-09-2026, 09:52 AM   #807
PepsiFree
Participant
Participant
 
PepsiFree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14 View Post
Faux Sizzle my nizzle
The quality, unmatchable.
PepsiFree is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 09:55 AM   #808
TheIronMaiden
Franchise Player
 
TheIronMaiden's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
Exp:
Default

It is really sickening to watch those Oil refineries burn. So much pollution. God must me pleased.
TheIronMaiden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 10:01 AM   #809
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot View Post
White phosphorous has been used in multiple wars, including past Lebanon incursions. Nothing new unfortunately. White phosphorous and cluster bombs are pointed to with outrage a lot whenever used due to its indiscriminate attribute that impacts civilians, but when the main players also use it, it rarely gets anywhere, as opendoor pointed to recently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munition
It's one of those things that are kinda accepted in various use cases, but still pretty much universally seen as not something to be used over populated places due to the risk of in-discriminant civilian harm. The way Israel used it is not one of those generally accepted cases.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Fuzz For This Useful Post:
Old 03-09-2026, 10:04 AM   #810
Itse
Franchise Player
 
Itse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man View Post
Because Netenyahu's goal is to bring maximum pain to Iran and all it's civilians? Seems to make perfect sense to me why they would do this. Gaza has shown they don't give a crap about civilian casualties or suffering. They just want to level Iran and make sure the country never comes ahead going forward. What better way to do this than to cause as much damage as possible right now when they still have firm control over the US?
Israel under Netanyahu has gone completely insane.

Mostly lost in the news barrage is that Israel has ordered (on what authority one might ask) hundreds of thousands (some estimates say up to a million) people in Beirut to evacuate, because they plan to bomb the crap out of a part of the city.

There is once again absolutely no concern for civilian casualties. In fact about a fifth of the dead in Lebanon have been children. In fact there is now likely more dead children in Lebanon due to Israelis recent attacks than there have been this year in Ukraine,.which has been bombarded daily by Russia.

Which is not as much as the 37% of deaths being children like in Gaza, but its close to the percentage of underage people in Beirut overall.

Meaning: the percentage of dead children in Beirut is not what you'd expect from a campaign targeted at any kind of military targets, and not even what youd expect if they targeted for example government buildings or general infrastructure. What they line up with is what you expect if Israel was simply terror bombing Beirut at random.

Last edited by Itse; 03-09-2026 at 10:16 AM.
Itse is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Itse For This Useful Post:
Old 03-09-2026, 10:19 AM   #811
activeStick
Franchise Player
 
activeStick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse View Post
Israel under Netanyahu has gone completely insane.

Mostly lost in the news barrage is that Israel has ordered (on what authority one might ask) hundreds of thousands (some estimates say up to a million) people in Beirut to evacuating, because they plan to bomb the crap out of the area.

There is once again absolutely no concern for civilian casualties. In fact about a fifth of the dead in Lebanon have been children. In fact there is now likely more dead children in Lebanon due to Israelis recent attacks than there have been this year in Ukraine,.which has been bombarded daily by Russia.

Which is not as much as the 37% of deaths being children like in Gaza, but its close to the percentage of underage people in Beirut overall.

Meaning: the percentage of dead children in Beirut is not what you'd expect from a campaign targeted at any kind of military targets, and not even what youd expect if they targeted for example government buildings or general infrastructure. What they line up with is what you expect if Israel was simply terror bombing a population at random.
It's not a result of it being lost in the news barrage, and everything to do with the propaganda arm of the west through its media outlets most commonly consumed by its people purposely not covering and sharing out.
activeStick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 10:23 AM   #812
Itse
Franchise Player
 
Itse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick View Post
It's not a result of it being lost in the news barrage, and everything to do with the propaganda arm of the west through its media outlets most commonly consumed by its people purposely not covering and sharing out.
Potato, potato.

But yeah.

I think a part of it is that the Western governments and most.of western media were generally supooetive of Israels genocide in Gaza, or rather choosing to not believe it is was and still is a genocide.

To admit that Israel is terror bombing civilians in Beirut would require them to revisit their previous support, and nobody likes to admit they're wrong. Plus you know, racism.
Itse is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Itse For This Useful Post:
Old 03-09-2026, 10:35 AM   #813
Harry Lime
Franchise Player
 
Harry Lime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man View Post
Because Netenyahu's goal is to bring maximum pain to Iran and all it's civilians? Seems to make perfect sense to me why they would do this. Gaza has shown they don't give a crap about civilian casualties or suffering. They just want to level Iran and make sure the country never comes ahead going forward. What better way to do this than to cause as much damage as possible right now when they still have firm control over the US?
There is some speculation that the last thing that the Israelis want is a regime change in Iran. A US backed democracy building Iran back up creates a stable Muslim country on Israel's doorstep. Better to have a weaker unhinged enemy.

As for Fuzzes use of "good guys", the only good guys here are the entire female population of Iran, and their supporters. Every other party is a bad guy. Only actions moving the rights and lives of the "good guys" forward, should be celebrated.
__________________
"By Grabthar's hammer ... what a savings."
Harry Lime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 11:14 AM   #814
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime View Post
There is some speculation that the last thing that the Israelis want is a regime change in Iran. A US backed democracy building Iran back up creates a stable Muslim country on Israel's doorstep. Better to have a weaker unhinged enemy.

As for Fuzzes use of "good guys", the only good guys here are the entire female population of Iran, and their supporters. Every other party is a bad guy. Only actions moving the rights and lives of the "good guys" forward, should be celebrated.
Hey, don't put that on me. I'm just using DoctorFever's preferred pronoun for Israel. Didn't mean to offend.
Fuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 11:21 AM   #815
Harry Lime
Franchise Player
 
Harry Lime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz View Post
Hey, don't put that on me. I'm just using DoctorFever's preferred pronoun for Israel. Didn't mean to offend.
I'm sometimes guilty of "I'm not not reading 19 pages of this, what's happened in the last page" syndrome.
__________________
"By Grabthar's hammer ... what a savings."
Harry Lime is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Harry Lime For This Useful Post:
Old 03-09-2026, 11:28 AM   #816
Doctorfever
First Line Centre
 
Doctorfever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse View Post
Potato, potato.

But yeah.

I think a part of it is that the Western governments and most.of western media were generally supooetive of Israels genocide in Gaza, or rather choosing to not believe it is was and still is a genocide.

To admit that Israel is terror bombing civilians in Beirut would require them to revisit their previous support, and nobody likes to admit they're wrong. Plus you know, racism.
You mean this western media?

https://honestreporting.ca/petitions...ian%20conflict.

Quote:
CBC News refuses to refer to Hamas, a proxy of Iran which has kidnapped Israeli women, children, men and the elderly and which has slaughtered over 300 innocent Israelis in cold blood as terrorists. If this isn’t terrorism, what is?

To wit, it is an undisputed fact, not an opinion, that the Canadian government regards Hamas as a terrorist group and is listed as such by Public Safety Canada.

That CBC prefers to sanitize and whitewash Palestinian terrorism into broad and utterly meaningless terms like “militants” and “fighters” is not surprising, but appalling to see, nonetheless. As a result, CBC readers, listeners and viewers will continue to be misled as a result of this CBC directive.

Furthermore, that CBC is intentionally slanting the news by telling its journalists to not state as fact how Israel ceased its occupation of Gaza in 2005, is more damning evidence of the CBC’s pervasive bias against Israel. Lastly, this CBC memo fails to acknowledge that Egypt also enforces a blockade of Gaza as a necessary security measure to prevent and thwart attacks by the Hamas terrorist group, a proxy of Iran which today murdered over 300 Israelis and injured 2,000 more.

As an annual recipient of over a billion taxpayer dollars, CBC is duty-bound and tasked to be politically neutral and objective. This latest directive sent to all journalists at our public broadcaster further validates our longstanding concerns about the CBC’s bias against Israel and reveals its slanted coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/cbc...20to%20readers.


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/we-...ti-israel-bias
__________________
____________________________________________
Doctorfever is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 11:41 AM   #817
Senator Clay Davis
Franchise Player
 
Senator Clay Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
Exp:
Default

Without social media the genocide of the Palestinian people would have been buried by the mainstream media in the West. But once it was broadcasted live it was pretty hard to deny at that point. Granted, certain doctors got copious amounts of joy from all the dead Palestinians, especially the dead children, but the rest of us saw what we saw thanks to social media. Western media would have 100% buried it otherwise.
__________________
"Think I'm gonna be the scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeee......."
Senator Clay Davis is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 11:55 AM   #818
Doctorfever
First Line Centre
 
Doctorfever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
Exp:
Default

I get no joy from war. That’s why I want this regime in Iran to fall. Along with Hamas, Hezbolah, and Houthis.
__________________
____________________________________________
Doctorfever is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 12:07 PM   #819
GGG
Franchise Player
 
GGG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
Exp:
Default

For someone complaining about terrible journalism you sure like to quote things that aren’t journalism and instead opinion columns or third parties promoting the research they conducted

“ What our analysis shows is not a subtle or debatable pattern, but a structural one. CBC headlines expressed sympathy toward Gaza nearly five times more often than toward Israel, while the articles themselves reflected a smaller, though still persistent, two-to-one imbalance — meaning the strongest skew appeared not in its reporting, but in how those reports are presented to readers.”

If you note they don’t consider why sympathy might be expressed towards Gaza at a 5 times higher rate from Oct 2023 to 2025 and increased from 3 to 5 over the course of the conflict.

“ If sympathy toward one actor appears twice as often as toward another within the same set of articles, the resulting Sympathy Ratio is 2:1. This provides a straightforward way to describe narrative emphasis without making claims about what journalistic coverage should look like.”

The system used doesn’t normalize per event so in a scenario where you have an accumulation of Palestinian casualties and a constant number of Israeli casualties one would expect to find what was found.

How would you expect the results of the HR analysis to look like if coverage was balanced?
GGG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2026, 12:08 PM   #820
MrSector9
Backup Goalie
 
MrSector9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Calgary, Alberta. Canada
Exp:
Default

I really hope Israel/USA and Iran have paid up their carbon offset credits.

MrSector9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:44 PM.

Calgary Flames
2025-26






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy