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Old 03-28-2019, 11:53 PM   #801
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So now instead of it being impossible that she’s anti-oil you’re now saying it’s irrelevant? Just trying to understand.
Yes I'm saying it is impossible for the Premier of Alberta to want to actively or passively "sewer the oil industry" (to use the words which initially raised my post).
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Please show me where Bill C-69 is going to be killed by the Senate, while they are doing a study of it, its likely that the "Independent" Senators nee Liberals will pass the bill through the senate without substantive changes.


And yeah, I'm pretty secure in the knowledge that Bill C-69 which opens up consultations to every environmental group that wants to plug projects up, takes gender and down stream emission effects into consideration and allows cabinet ministers like the Minister of Environment to simply kill projects is a deal breaker for anyone that's looking to do any project here.
The bill has been in the Senate for nearly a year - that is very unusual. Now they want to go on a road show? They are delaying it until its too late for the bill to get thru Parliament before the summer break.

Like I just noted, nobody even knows what projects Bill C-69 will apply to - and most of those things re consultations, emissions, and ministerial powers already exists in the current CEAA 2012. Granted downstream emissions and gender are not - but none of those considerations explicitly kill any projects (once we know what they are).
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Yes I'm saying it is impossible for the Premier of Alberta to want to actively or passively "sewer the oil industry" (to use the words which initially raised my post).
I guess if you close your eyes and stop your ears you can imagine she isn’t doing anything. However, there is indisputable evidence that she’s both taking direct action that’s hurting the industry and purposefully downplaying the importance of pipelines.

So you say it’s impossible. I say you’re obviously blind.
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I think we should be at the point where election signs should be banned.

in this day and age, what point do they serve? just seems like a lot of environmental waste, not to mention a waste of money.
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My rough sign count last night in my area put the UCP at around an 8:1 advantage over NDP. Though the NDP just came around the neighbourhood a couple nights ago, so perhaps they haven't gotten all theirs out yet, whereas the UCP was by about a month ago. Still, big lead. No sign of life from any of the other parties.
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My rough sign count last night in my area put the UCP at around an 8:1 advantage over NDP. Though the NDP just came around the neighbourhood a couple nights ago, so perhaps they haven't gotten all theirs out yet, whereas the UCP was by about a month ago. Still, big lead. No sign of life from any of the other parties.
What's your constituency?
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Greg Clark really is an impressive guy. He lays out how much of a debacle the Notley NDP has made of electricity in Alberta.

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Clark is one of those rare opposition politicians who actually knows every government file he talks about with incredible detail. Ask him about electricity and prepare to be energized by a passionate discussion about balancing pools, power purchase agreements and the like.

Indeed, Clark says if he had his way, he would hold a royal commission into the Alberta “NDP government’s single biggest scandal” — its meddling with Alberta’s electricity system that led to the en-masse resignation of all but one member from the electricity balancing pool and has cost Alberta taxpayers $2 billion while getting nothing in return.

“Why would anyone enter into an agreement with the government if the government can arbitrarily change the rules, it costs you money and you still can’t get out of the contract?” asks Clark. “No one would ever enter that contract.”

The easiest way to look at it is that from about 2004 to 2014, most residential electricity customers would get $2 to $3 back from the balancing pool on their electricity bills. They had a surplus of about $700 million. That deficit is now around $1 billion. So they’ve taken a positive $700 million and turned it into negative $1 billion.

“Now, if you look at your electricity bill, you’ll see a balancing pool rider, which is negative $2 or $3. If it fully reflected the true cost of electricity it would probably be closer to $20 because the NDP has funded the balancing pool by adding to Alberta’s debt to trick Albertans into thinking that it hasn’t been as big a disaster as it has been,” said Clark.

In essence, because of the complexity of electricity and by adding this almost $2 billion cost into Alberta’s ballooning provincial debt (now at $53 billion, which was zero when the NDP formed government) they have hidden this boondoggle from taxpayers.
On just this issue alone and the complete ineptitude shown in "fixing something that wasn't broken", this band of court jesters shouldn't be granted a single vote anywhere. Complete madness.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...box=1553862803
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Greg Clark really is an impressive guy. He lays out how much of a debacle the Notley NDP has made of electricity in Alberta.



On just this issue alone and the complete ineptitude shown in "fixing something that wasn't broken", this band of court jesters shouldn't be granted a single vote anywhere. Complete madness.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...box=1553862803
I honestly don't even know what to say....NDP is seriously no good.
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Greg Clark really is an impressive guy. He lays out how much of a debacle the Notley NDP has made of electricity in Alberta.



On just this issue alone and the complete ineptitude shown in "fixing something that wasn't broken", this band of court jesters shouldn't be granted a single vote anywhere. Complete madness.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...box=1553862803



Side note to the positive Greg Clark talk, I had an inquiry to all of the candidates in my riding, it wasn't on a news worth subject but one important to my family and I. Not only did he personally respond to my inquiry, he also took the time to personally call me and discuss the issue. I sent my inquiry to all of the candidates in my riding, he was the only one to respond and then in my opinion went above and beyond after responding.
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Calgary-Klein.
Your Alberta Party candidate, Kara Levis, has been out knocking on doors since October or earlier and there are definitely some signs in neighborhoods around the constituency.
She hasn't hit everyone yet, but she's working her butt off to get to as many doors and talk to as many people as possible.

She's a really great candidate, qualified candidate, (She's a lawyer at an Energy Company). I'm obviously a pretty strong supporter, and I would invite you to check out her website.

https://calgaryklein.albertaparty.ca/

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Calgary West was still a strong PC in the last election, so no surprise on the sign front its a 10:1 landslide for Mike Ellis vs. no-name NDP candidate.

I've seen 1 small sign for the NDP candidate, and one medium sized one with just Notley's name on it (odd).

Gonna be a bloodbath in this riding.
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Alberta election fact check:

Healthcare wait times under the ndp for open heart surgery, cataracts, knee surgery and hip replacement all up by 23% to 50% during ndp’s tenure.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5081441/a...ait-times-ndp/
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Greg Clark really is an impressive guy. He lays out how much of a debacle the Notley NDP has made of electricity in Alberta.



On just this issue alone and the complete ineptitude shown in "fixing something that wasn't broken", this band of court jesters shouldn't be granted a single vote anywhere. Complete madness.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...box=1553862803
This is another huge scandal that's been drowned out amongst the other NDP idiocy but it's an incredible example of how ignorant some members of this government have been with respect to financial and commodity markets.
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Your Alberta Party candidate, Kara Levis, has been out knocking on doors since October or earlier and there are definitely some signs in neighborhoods around the constituency.
She hasn't hit everyone yet, but she's working her butt off to get to as many doors and talk to as many people as possible.

She's a really great candidate, qualified candidate, (She's a lawyer at an Energy Company). I'm obviously a pretty strong supporter, and I would invite you to check out her website.

https://calgaryklein.albertaparty.ca/

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Ya, haven't seen anything from her yet. I can't vote UCP, and the NDP have bungled so much I don't think they stand a chance in my riding anyway. Not that I think the Alberta Party does either, but I'm strongly considering voting them anyway, just to offer support so we may have a viable third option next election.
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Calgary West was still a strong PC in the last election, so no surprise on the sign front its a 10:1 landslide for Mike Ellis vs. no-name NDP candidate.

I've seen 1 small sign for the NDP candidate, and one medium sized one with just Notley's name on it (odd).

Gonna be a bloodbath in this riding.
Same with Calgary SE. There are some Alberta Party signs around the hospital. Guessing those are possible healthcare workers. However not one ndp sign anywhere except the one that was being driven over on stoney.
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Greg Clark really is an impressive guy. He lays out how much of a debacle the Notley NDP has made of electricity in Alberta.



On just this issue alone and the complete ineptitude shown in "fixing something that wasn't broken", this band of court jesters shouldn't be granted a single vote anywhere. Complete madness.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...box=1553862803
Here is an article from 2016 about it.

https://edmontonsun.com/2016/07/25/a...b-16dcc9f4ee25

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Since December, Enmax, Trans-Canada, AltaGas and Capital Power have announced their intention to terminate all of their PPAs for coal-fired electricity, transferring the money-losing contracts back to a government entity called the Balancing Pool.

The companies all cited the NDP’s government’s Jan. 1 increase to the carbon levy on large emitters, the Specified Gas Emitters Regulation.

But the province said the PPAs were unprofitable already because of low power prices, and if the terminations commence it will cost consumers up to $2 billion through additional costs on power bills by 2020, when the PPAs expire.

In a hard-hitting statement, Enmax said it was “very disappointed” the government is taking retroactive action on agreements that have been in place for 16 years and brought billions of dollars of investment into Alberta.

The company, owned by the City of Calgary, said the government should have realized the implications of its actions related to the PPA issue and that Enmax’s actions were entirely foreseeable and reasonable.

“More broadly, we are concerned with the approach the government is taking and the signals it sends for future investment in Alberta,” said the Enmax statement.
The NDP set back the province 15 years but this is really being dismissed as noise (who has talked about it?). Good on Clark on calling it out, I think a lot more has to be made about the NDP's colossal mistakes. Smoke and mirrors.
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Ya, haven't seen anything from her yet. I can't vote UCP, and the NDP have bungled so much I don't think they stand a chance in my riding anyway. Not that I think the Alberta Party does either, but I'm strongly considering voting them anyway, just to offer support so we may have a viable third option next election.
Well keep your eyes open. (Meant in a good way, not in a "Open your eyes" sort of way)

She's been out and about pretty much all day/every day since the writ dropped, hitting the train stations/bus stops in the mornings, and knocking on doors.
If you find her literature in your mailbox, it means she was there and missed you. Hopefully she hits your door and you get a chance to meet her.

Also, if you have any questions for her, you can contact her via the website, and she'll get back to you.
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I've driven around a few ridings in my travels this week and there are only a couple that don't seem like landslide wins for the UCP. I think that Ganley might have enough in Mountainview, but that's going to be close because David Khan (Liberals) has a good amount of support and then Angela Kokott is running for the Alberta Party there. This is the riding where the UCP replaced Caylan Ford, although I've seen a lot of signs for them also.

The other is the aforementioned Elbow. I think that's going to be tight as Clark has a good presence, but there are some pockets I was passing through that seem solidly UPC.
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Calgary West was still a strong PC in the last election, so no surprise on the sign front its a 10:1 landslide for Mike Ellis vs. no-name NDP candidate.

I've seen 1 small sign for the NDP candidate, and one medium sized one with just Notley's name on it (odd).

Gonna be a bloodbath in this riding.
I'm also in this riding. I've seen more Notley signs than the Candidate. Sort of interesting.

I expect Ellis to win by a landslide.
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