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Old 12-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #801
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More than you think.

Mike Cammalleri, Stepniak and Glencross are all from NCAA.

Phil Kessel, Ryan Miller, Jack Johnson, Zach Parise are a few names on the list

From the NCAA site:

Once a hidden gem of hockey talent, college hockey has become one of the biggest suppliers of talent to the NHL, surpassing all Europe.
toews, stasnty, sharp, keith, scuderi , quick, orpik, pavelski, backes, elliot, oshie, shattenkirk, st.loius, jvr, bieksa, kesler, schieder, wheeler, many more.....

NCAA is becoming a very good supply chain for the NHL.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #802
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The man rumoured to be the next GM Joe Nieuwendyk went to Cornell I believe.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #803
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how many top end NHL players came form the NCAA? there are a few but not that many
Former Flames from NCAA include:

Joe Nieuwendyk
Joel Otto
Joe Mullen
Gary Suter
Colin Patterson
Jamie Macoun

Just to name a few from our cup winning team.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #804
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didn't Towes and Karyia take the college route?
Paul Karyia? lol

yes Towes did, I didn't say there wasn't any
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:27 PM   #805
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is Feaster post Apex?
Hopefully that term dies with his tenure.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #806
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Mind blown. I don't have time to read 40 pages but is Burke 100% not going to be the GM? I was hoping he would be.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:30 PM   #807
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This franchise can't be competitive for 2-3 years. If this move is about trying to win games now, I am perplexed.

It's not trying to win games now, it's learning how to win games period.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:31 PM   #808
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So have we confirmed that Burke was at Bill Brasky's wake last night?
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Mind blown. I don't have time to read 40 pages but is Burke 100% not going to be the GM? I was hoping he would be.
if he is the best candidate he will be
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #810
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If Burke was looking to move Baertschi then I doubt he would be publicly announcing the flaws in his game.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #811
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This move has nothing to do with the Flames' current record this season or any sort of "win now" mantra coming from ownership. I think Feaster has been on the block since we changed direction and began the rebuild. I don't think the organization has felt that he was the man to lead this process and ownership is doing their due-diligence by bringing in a guy like Burke to evaluate the Flames' management. I get the impression that they're going about this in a very thorough manner.

As an aside, the goal is always to win. You want to see improvements with your team but that doesn't mean that you expect to be a contender nor does it mean selling the farm for ageing vets. Accepting mediocrity/complacency is how you turn your team into the Oilers. We need to instill good habits in our young players and develop a positive, winning culture in our locker room. Getting on top of issues like maintaining leads in the third are something you work on immediately not five years from now when all your young star players are at the tail end of their ELCs.

In regards to Baerschi, I don't think (or hope) he's on the trading block. If anything I would expect him to be treated similarly to Kadri in Toronto. Perhaps he'll be sent down to the Heat to work on his game and improve his play if the Flames aren't happy with his development.

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Old 12-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #812
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you can have small players...you are never going to win, especially in this division with a majority of small players in your top six.

remember when we were all raving about how great Boston is and how that is a team we would like the Flames to be like
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:34 PM   #813
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Towes, Ryan Miller, Zach Parise, Tim Thomas, Paul Stastny, Duncan Keith, Dany Heatley, Ryan Kesler, Brian Gionta, St. Louis, Matt Carle, Phil Kessel, Brooks Orpik, Jack Johnson, Dan Boyle, Kevin Bieksa, Thomas Vanek, Drew Stafford, Ryan Suter, Erik Cole, Joe Pavelski, Christ Kunitz, David Backes, Mike Camalleri, Patrick Sharp, Schultz, JVR, Jimmy Howard, RJ Umberger, Paul Martin, Brian Rolson, Andy McDonald, TJ Oshie, Justin Abdelkader, Leopold, Glencross, Penner, Bredan Morrison, and others all took the NCAA route.

Saying that NCAA is not a good place to find players is a pretty ridiculous argument.
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Brian Rafalski, Chris Chelios, Mike Richter, Brian Leetch, Tony Amonte, were all amazing players in their prime that came from the NCAA.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:35 PM   #815
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after the 60 day review Burke realized that Feaster doesn't have a clue what he is doing...consider that Feaster almost lost a sixth overall pick for nothing and was saved by another GM yet was still allowed to make the biggest trade in franchise history a couple months later
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:35 PM   #816
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Are we going to get Phanooooof back?
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:35 PM   #817
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Ugh Flames talking to Joe nieuwendyk? Please don't let that happen. He was an awful GM.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:36 PM   #818
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Hey, were there any good players from the NCAA?
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:37 PM   #819
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Paul Karyia? lol

yes Towes did, I didn't say there wasn't any
I don't understand the lol. Kariya played college.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:37 PM   #820
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The devil you know...
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