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Old 10-29-2020, 02:07 PM   #8161
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This has nothing to do with leftists. Pete's numbers with younger voters are atrocious. That may not mean much this cycle, but in 4-8 years, when those people make up the bulk of the voting population, it almost certainly will.

I get the old adage that voters tend to become more conservative as they age, but that's usually due to the fact that people tend to accrue more wealth and better lifestyles as they age and are thus more motivated to hold onto the status quo. That's not really happening for many millennials and zoomers, and unless that changes substantially under a Biden administration, we're likely to see even more aggressive populism from both the left and the right in coming years and a much stronger backlash against the Mayor Petes of both parties.
not really, everyone gets more conservative, even the destitute as they get older, its a desire for stabilty mostly
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Not really. Old, white liberals love him, so I'm not surprised he's right up your alley, but most of the under 40 crowds sees him for the shameless corporate shill that he is.
Why is he labelled as a corporate shill? When I listen to him speak, he seems very genuine in his ideas on how to move the country in a better direction. I kind of roll my eyes at yelling at corporate bogeyman, so you need to offer some specifics of what he's saying he'd do for corporations that is against the better good of the people.
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I'm not advocating for a strict rule to follow the California mandate, I said as much on my second response to Girlysports, but I do think the California order is trying to accomplish something else here. Will people willfully follow the 2 hr requirement? Probably not, but that's really not the point. The point here is to remind the general public to take precaution because of the rising cases. So why didn't California just tell people to exercise extra caution since cases are on the rise again? Because people won't take it seriously unless an order is in place.

I honestly have no idea why California decided to throw in the 2 hr rule (how do you even enforce that?), maybe due to some conclusion after consulting with medical professionals, I have no idea. To me, the order is suppose to spur people into action, and to exercise common sense.
And my post wasn't about the 2 hour rule, it was about being respectful of other posters.
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You say this like it matters to voters.
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And my post wasn't about the 2 hour rule, it was about being respectful of other posters.
Sorry your feelings got hurt. I'll try to be more careful next time or whatever.
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That's not really happening for many millennials and zoomers, and unless that changes substantially under a Biden administration, we're likely to see even more aggressive populism from both the left and the right in coming years and a much stronger backlash against the Mayor Petes of both parties.
Maybe in Canada, but not in the States.
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If anyone would like the full context of questions and the responses...

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If anyone would like the full context of questions and the responses...

Even without the context. How upset am I supposed to be that he worked as a consultant whose client fixed Canadian bread prices without even an accusation that he was involved or even knew about it?
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Even without the context. How upset am I supposed to be that he worked as a consultant whose client fixed Canadian bread prices without even an accusation that he was involved or even knew about it?

To under 40 progressives, the fact that he got into Harvard and then worked for one of the big consulting firms makes him a corporate shill. We have to be victims in today's world.
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Even without the context. How upset am I supposed to be that he worked as a consultant whose client fixed Canadian bread prices without even an accusation that he was involved or even knew about it?
Not sure I get your point? Are you upset that he worked for the consultancy, or had no dealings with or knowledge of the situations, or that the question was asked?

I equate this question as asking a guy who manages a group of accountants working at Suncor, and then blaming them for climate change. Just an ignorant question, especially on the heels of his explanation of his role at the consultancy.

I strongly urge people to invest the hour and a half of your time to listen to what he has to say. This is someone who understands the system, how to change it, and the daunting task to do just that. This is one of the best interviews on the system and systemic change I think I've seen.
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To under 40 progressives, the fact that he got into Harvard and then worked for one of the big consulting firms makes him a corporate shill. We have to be victims in today's world.
As an under 40 progressive I reject basically every part of this, especially this dismissive nonsense that everyone needs to be a victim.
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As an under 40 progressive I reject basically every part of this, especially this dismissive nonsense that everyone needs to be a victim.

I read your posts often, you are not under 40 progressive. Especially not from the definition stated by New Era earlier.
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Well let’s hope they get squashed on Tuesday.

I am hoping that the 2024 candidates include Sasse, Portman, Hogan, or maybe even Toomey although he is quitting.
As someone who has lived in a state where Toomey has held office?

No. Please no.

He is spineless, refuses to even meet with constituents let alone vote in line with their concerns. Toomey is awful.


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President Mitch McConnell wouldn’t be up at 3am having a tantrum because the deadly plague is getting more press coverage.

President Mitch McConnell would have understood that he could get the thing and die, so he’d be setting an example on masks and distancing - remember, he didn’t go to the super spreader ceremony in the Rose Garden.

Having a plan, period, is a start. Telling people the truth is important. It matters.
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However, I also think that there are probably a fairly large number of people who, while agreeing with the first point, don't think it's really necessary to limit her visit to 2 hours if she comes over for Thanksgiving.
Are these people virologists? Epidemiologists?

If not perhaps they should listen to the professionals who have a far better grasp of the risks they're incurring.

You shouldn't be allowed to put others at risk because you think your Gut Feeling is just as valid as scientific research.
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Old 10-29-2020, 03:57 PM   #8177
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I read your posts often, you are not under 40 progressive. Especially not from the definition stated by New Era earlier.
Read: You're not the strawman built by the alt-Right on Twitter that would feature in a meme of someone being triggered by the existence of gendered clothing.
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I only posted the bread pricing thing because it was probably the most memorable part of the primary. I wasn't a fan on Pete then, but his stock has definitely risen over the last few months.
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Just a preview of Biden's America where you can't even buy guns, liquor and ammo in the same place.
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