Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

You’re gonna use the Smitty Bucks to justify labelling the UCP as socialists aren’t you? Nice try Slava.

oh yeah Smitty bucks in my account today!

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I don't know that I agree that it's impossible for the UCP to change course, especially if they lose this election. But I think it's probably easier to fix what's wrong with the NDP at this point than to fix what's wrong with the UCP, from the perspective of creating a mostly centrist option that represents the majority of Albertans, while ignoring the extremes.

This is what I'm most curious about in the next few months, if the UCP starts to look like they're slipping, or if they lose, then what do they do? I don't see them weeding out the TBA influence any time soon.

Do they double down on the craziness and slip into obscurity giving rise to a new party that is actually Conservative? That's my hope, it would be nice to have real Conservatives again, even though there hasn't been such a thing anywhere in this country for a long time

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

oh yeah Smitty bucks in my account today!

The NDP will appreciate the donation.

[Harry Lime]

You are all reminding me that most of the poor people who I deal with daily, struggling financially, don't qualify for Smitty Bucks. Because the criteria wasn't based on any financial variables, but instead based entirely on pandering for the next election.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

oh yeah Smitty bucks in my account today!

I got nothing, nadda, zilch. Eff off Smith!

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

You are all reminding me that most of the poor people who I deal with daily, struggling financially, don't qualify for Smitty Bucks. Because the criteria wasn't based on any financial variables, but instead based entirely on pandering for the next election.

Yeah the requirements were a joke. If you have kids and make under $180 000 a year, you get money. If you don't have kids and make $15 000, you can go #### yourself

[lucky1]

our two main cities are crumbling before our eye's due to the new 'woke' city councils that were installed last election, the last thing our province needs is this same ideology in the governing body. I personally despise the UCP Govt but refuse to vote for the NDP due to their BS that they brought in on the O&G sector when they were last in power. Oil prices cratering, lets bring in a Royalty review to further increase uncertainty in our main economic engine....or how about we go and hire a border line eco terrorist Tzeporah Berman to review current and upcoming Alberta Oil Sands projects, that sure seemed like a smart idea! not to mention the current NDP Shadow cabinet - Joe Ceci who was an epic failure as an Alderman, to be in charge of the provinces finances?? give me a break. There is no good choice for the upcoming election, but I know the one party I wont be voting for...

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by lucky1

our two main cities are crumbling before our eye's due to the new 'woke' city councils that were installed last election

I'm curious, what do you think changed in that area since the municipal election? What 'woke' policies are causing this crumbling? What solutions would a non-woke council have implemented?

Or is it the exact stuff we were dealing with before just magnified because of covid?

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by lucky1

our two main cities are crumbling before our eye's due to the new 'woke' city councils that were installed last election, the last thing our province needs is this same ideology in the governing body.

Did you come to this determination by watching The Last of Us?

Originally Posted by lucky1

Oil prices cratering, lets bring in a Royalty review to further increase uncertainty in our main economic engine....or how about we go and hire a border line eco terrorist Tzeporah Berman to review current and upcoming Alberta Oil Sands projects

Does anyone know if Oil Sands project capital spending has increased since UCP took over from the evil NDP?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by lucky1

our two main cities are crumbling before our eye's due to the new 'woke' city councils that were installed last election, the last thing our province needs is this same ideology in the governing body.

Could you explain this more? Calgary was ranked as one of the top five cities to live in in the entire world by the Economist, so your explanation here is appreciated.

Originally Posted by lucky1

I personally despise the UCP Govt but refuse to vote for the NDP due to their BS that they brought in on the O&G sector when they were last in power. Oil prices cratering, lets bring in a Royalty review to further increase uncertainty in our main economic engine

Couple questions here...

• What is your opinion about the UCP 'wasting' $1.4B of our money on a pipeline that went absolutely nowhere (Keystone), or the RStar program that grants $20B in tax relief for already-rich resource firms? That $20B could be critical to provincial revenues and projects if the government just grew a ####ing backbone and made them clean those wells up.
• What is your opinion on the UCP completely budgeting their success on oil revenues, and what is your opinion about the NDP's plan to diversify away from oil and gas, using revenues from O+G to invest in that diversification?

[Harry Lime]

Extremely odd declarations being made here, that really sidestep a lot of issues with the ruling government. It's as if they are trying to focus only on a few issues where they can offer a differing viewpoint, and hope that everything else gets conveniently lost in the rubble.

I was going to post this at the beginning of every month, until an election is called, but here is a spreadsheet of UCP decisions so far since they took power. Happy reading.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...z2M/edit#gid=0

[lucky1]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I'm curious, what do you think changed in that area since the municipal election? What 'woke' policies are causing this crumbling? What solutions would a non-woke council have implemented?

Or is it the exact stuff we were dealing with before just magnified because of covid?

Calgary is a city built on the back of Oil and Gas - the very first thing our city council did was declare a symbolic 'Climate Emergency' w/no real actionable plan behind it - this was just a poke in the eye of the companies who put Calgary on the map. How about you sit down with the various oil and gas execs and talk about things before banging down the gavel on a climate emergency declaration...
A bit off course here, Jyoti was also very vocal in her opposition to the newly agreed arena proposal, the first chance she had she starts forcing a bunch of nonsenical crap like adding solar panels (never agreed to in the initial framework), or the widened boulevards/sidewalks and insisting that CSEC pay for them. This increased scope allowed CSEC to walk from the deal, which was a fatal mistake as CSEC was contractually obligated to cover cost over runs, which were building up due to Covid issues....
One thing I will give Jyoti credit for is raising the budgetary share for the police force, rather than defunding it like our prior adminstration tried to...

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by lucky1

How about you sit down with the various oil and gas execs and talk about things before banging down the gavel on a climate emergency declaration...

Execs like this guy?

'I hope some of those politicians get brave enough to stand up and take some different positions,' CEO says

The head of Canada's largest oil company says climate change is backed by science, and deniers, including politicians, need to do a U-turn and accept it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...iers-1.4694549

This increased scope allowed CSEC to walk from the deal

That isn't what allowed them to walk away from the deal.

[Ozy_Flame]

O/G in Calgary has been shedding jobs since Feb 2022 (net loss of 7000), and yet unemployment dropped from 7.4 to 6.7.

The majority of Calgarys jobs in industry sectors are not O/G, Forestry, Fishing or Mining.

[Fuzz]

Lucky1 sounds like they know just enough about things to back up the narrative they have created in their head.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by lucky1

Calgary is a city built on the back of Oil and Gas - the very first thing our city council did was declare a symbolic 'Climate Emergency' w/no real actionable plan behind it - this was just a poke in the eye of the companies who put Calgary on the map. How about you sit down with the various oil and gas execs and talk about things before banging down the gavel on a climate emergency declaration...
A bit off course here, Jyoti was also very vocal in her opposition to the newly agreed arena proposal, the first chance she had she starts forcing a bunch of nonsenical crap like adding solar panels (never agreed to in the initial framework), or the widened boulevards/sidewalks and insisting that CSEC pay for them. This increased scope allowed CSEC to walk from the deal, which was a fatal mistake as CSEC was contractually obligated to cover cost over runs, which were building up due to Covid issues....
One thing I will give Jyoti credit for is raising the budgetary share for the police force, rather than defunding it like our prior adminstration tried to...

this is not what happened.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Lucky1 sounds like they know just enough about things to back up the narrative they have created in their head.

Yeah, I don't want to sound rude, but how do you even respond to a train of thought that's already de-railed?

'the city is crumbling from woke politics'

"How?"

'Because the mayor announced a climate emergency and the arena deal fell through'


Huh?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by lucky1

our two main cities are crumbling before our eye's due to the new 'woke' city councils that were installed democratically elected last election, the last thing our province needs is this same ideology in the governing body. I personally despise the UCP Govt but refuse to vote for the NDP due to their BS that they brought in on the O&G sector when they were last in power. Oil prices cratering, lets bring in a Royalty review to further increase uncertainty in our main economic engine....or how about we go and hire a border line eco terrorist Tzeporah Berman to review current and upcoming Alberta Oil Sands projects, that sure seemed like a smart idea! not to mention the current NDP Shadow cabinet - Joe Ceci who was an epic failure as an Alderman, to be in charge of the provinces finances?? give me a break. There is no good choice for the upcoming election, but I know the one party I wont be voting for...

fixed and I stopped reading at the use of that phase

[nik-]

Remember when the forum filtered D utter and Butter? Can we get that done for woke?

edit: it still filters the first one lol

[PepsiFree]

“I personally despise the UCP Government but…” is such a fun phrase.