Calgary Public Transit - Discussion

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Are they still calling it Kerby Station? Even though the Kerby people didn't even want it named after them in the first place? Just call it "Mewata" as a nod to the history of the area and get on with it.

The name "Kerby" for the station doesn't refer to the seniors centre, IIRC. However, Istill think that 11th st W would be the best name.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Are they still calling it Kerby Station? Even though the Kerby people didn't even want it named after them in the first place? Just call it "Mewata" as a nod to the history of the area and get on with it.

Actually it is being called Kerby in honour of William Kerby who founded Mount Royal College. His residence was formerly located on what is now the vacant lot across 7th Avenue the Kerby Centre (which was named after William Kerby as well).

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

Actually it is being called Kerby in honour of William Kerby who founded Mount Royal College. His residence was formerly located on what is now the vacant lot across 7th Avenue the Kerby Centre (which was named after William Kerby as well).

OK - if it is got some history behind it, I'm OK with it. (steps down from soapbox) Now let's just hope that they don't hyphenate it (or any more other stations) and keep it concise.

[Bunk]

Some Calgary Transit news announced by Mayor Nenshi and the Director of Calgary Transit

http://blog.calgarymayor.ca/2011/09/...y-transit.html

• Calgary Transit and the Mayor have created the Calgary Transit Customer Advisory Group to give customers a greater collaborative voice in the future of Calgary Transit (particularly in the area of customer service). Calgary Transit senior management will also regularly engage directly with customers on transit routes to better understand customer service concerns.
• Calgary Transit is actively working to reduce (where possible) the number of service disruptions and their impact on customers.
• Calgary Transit is planning to release service and reliability measurements for greater accountability and to encourage continual improvement

[You Need a Thneed]

Proposed NE feeder routes for once LRT extension opens to Saddletowne.

[Bunk]

The 4th Street SW Platform. Man, what a difference this project has had on the feel of the system downtown.

[frinkprof]

I'm not sure how new this is, but since there's a few 302 riders here, there's a survey regarding the 302 service. Takes about 5 minutes to complete.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Route302

Without knowing the exact impetus for the survey, my guess is that they are trying to determine where priorities lie for making improvements to the service.

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Also, there is a survey regarding the Route 17 - particularly geared toward the riders of its northeastern leg from downtown to Renfrew. The western leg of the route will be changing once West LRT opens.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Route17Survey

I do know the impetus for this one - our community association transportation committee has met with Calgary Transit officials to try to have some changes made to how the route will operate in the Beltline. Since this potentially has implications on the rest of the remaining route (to the northeast), CT wanted to survey riders in this area.

I doubt there's many people here who ride the route 17 from the northeast to and from downtown, but if you do, I encourage you to fill it out. Again, it takes about 5 minutes.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

Also, there is a survey regarding the Route 17 - particularly geared toward the riders of its northeastern leg from downtown to Renfrew. The western leg of the route will be changing once West LRT opens.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Route17Survey

I do know the impetus for this one - our community association transportation committee has met with Calgary Transit officials to try to have some changes made to how the route will operate in the Beltline. Since this potentially has implications on the rest of the remaining route (to the northeast), CT wanted to survey riders in this area.

I doubt there's many people here who ride the route 17 from the northeast to and from downtown, but if you do, I encourage you to fill it out. Again, it takes about 5 minutes.

I take this route daily to work. What were your plans/hopes for the beltline portion of the 17 route? I really like the idea of the route heading down Edmonton Trail so I can pick up things easier on my way home. But I don't want this route to stop going through the length of downtown, I need that to get to work.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Are they still calling it Kerby Station? Even though the Kerby people didn't even want it named after them in the first place? Just call it "Mewata" as a nod to the history of the area and get on with it.

Seniors hate it when people pander to them, especially the discounted annual CT passes.

When is the real time platform information coming?

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by Knalus

I take this route daily to work. What were your plans/hopes for the beltline portion of the 17 route? I really like the idea of the route heading down Edmonton Trail so I can pick up things easier on my way home. But I don't want this route to stop going through the length of downtown, I need that to get to work.

Well, this is what was proposed as part of the West LRT route changes (this map is a little old, but the route 17 proposal hadn't changed)



We proposed the route 17 to go further along 11th/12th Avenue, and enter downtown at either 1st Street East or 4th Street East as opposed to the 1st Street West/5th Street West combination.

In our discussions with Calgary Transit, they actually were willing to propose much the same as what we were (enter downtown at 4th Street East). For the northeast part of the route, they would actually create a new route (basically severing the route 17 at downtown), which is presented in the two options in the survey (this is why they don't appear to connect to anywhere near 4th Street East). Part of their reluctance was because they wanted to determine if the northeast riders were okay with the route not continuing through to the Beltline and off to the Shaganappi Point Station area. As to which one keeps the route number 17, who knows?

The two options in the survey:



The new route they proposed for the northeast section, as it would continue west from the two options presented in the survey, would would go south along 5th Street West to 12th Avenue, head east on 12th for a block and then loop back north along 4th Street West.

We'll be holding an open house regarding the changes to route 17, tentatively scheduled for October 29th, in the Beltline.

[Barnes]

Filled out the online BRT survey. No confirmation as to whether it was sent/recieved just clicked done and it went to the CT homepage. If you search for useless poorly designed websites in Google, calgarytransit.com should be on the first page of results.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

Well, this is what was proposed as part of the West LRT route changes (this map is a little old, but the route 17 proposal hadn't changed)



We proposed the route 17 to go further along 11th/12th Avenue, and enter downtown at either 1st Street East or 4th Street East as opposed to the 1st Street West/5th Street West combination.

In our discussions with Calgary Transit, they actually were willing to propose much the same as what we were (enter downtown at 4th Street East). For the northeast part of the route, they would actually create a new route (basically severing the route 17 at downtown), which is presented in the two options in the survey (this is why they don't appear to connect to anywhere near 4th Street East). Part of their reluctance was because they wanted to determine if the northeast riders were okay with the route not continuing through to the Beltline and off to the Shaganappi Point Station area. As to which one keeps the route number 17, who knows?

The two options in the survey:



The new route they proposed for the northeast section, as it would continue west from the two options presented in the survey, would would go south along 5th Street West to 12th Avenue, head east on 12th for a block and then loop back north along 4th Street West.

We'll be holding an open house regarding the changes to route 17, tentatively scheduled for October 29th, in the Beltline.

Thanks for letting me know about this. I'm now telling everyone that I can possibly tell to go to Calgary transit website and get them to go against such changes to the route 17. The only really good experience I have had with Calgary Transit is with the morning commute I have on route 17, and I go down to 5th ave SW. If the route changes, and I am now dropped off in the east, it makes taking transit practically useless. I would be forced to look at parking options, and I moved to the location I did in order to avoid that kind of bull.

Not only that, but the route actually creates a great sense of community that I haven't experienced anywhere else. I have met most of the friends I have in the neighbourhood waiting at the bus stop, and all but one get off further down the line than 4 st east. Unless Calgary transit makes the route seperate from the one that goes down the beltline, it would ruin everything.

I understand where you are coming from. The beltline needs better routes. I support that wholeheartedly - I used to live in the beltline. But whatever you do, please don't mess up our neighbourhood to make minor changes to yours. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. But if it does become one, I will not let it go.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by Knalus

Thanks for letting me know about this. I'm now telling everyone that I can possibly tell to go to Calgary transit website and get them to go against such changes to the route 17. The only really good experience I have had with Calgary Transit is with the morning commute I have on route 17, and I go down to 5th ave SW. If the route changes, and I am now dropped off in the east, it makes taking transit practically useless. I would be forced to look at parking options, and I moved to the location I did in order to avoid that kind of bull.

Not only that, but the route actually creates a great sense of community that I haven't experienced anywhere else. I have met most of the friends I have in the neighbourhood waiting at the bus stop, and all but one get off further down the line than 4 st east. Unless Calgary transit makes the route seperate from the one that goes down the beltline, it would ruin everything.

I understand where you are coming from. The beltline needs better routes. I support that wholeheartedly - I used to live in the beltline. But whatever you do, please don't mess up our neighbourhood to make minor changes to yours. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. But if it does become one, I will not let it go.

No I think you misunderstand. Those options in the survey end at 1st Street. What is not shown is that the route would continue to 5th Street West, south on 5th to 12th Avenue, east on 12th for a block, then back north on 4th Street West to make its way through downtown and back to the northeast.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

No I think you misunderstand. Those options in the survey end at 1st Street. What is not shown is that the route would continue to 5th Street West, south on 5th to 12th Avenue, east on 12th for a block, then back north on 4th Street West to make its way through downtown and back to the northeast.

You're right - I did misunderstand. I did not get that the 17 would then become a Renfrew/Crescent heights only route, still traveling through the downtown in it's entirety? That would be acceptable, provided it maintains the same level of service that it currently has.

I would worry, however, that due to the fact it is now a one-community only service, that it would have fewer busses dedicated to it. I sincerely hope not.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by Knalus

You're right - I did misunderstand. I did not get that the 17 would then become a Renfrew/Crescent heights only route, still traveling through the downtown in it's entirety? That would be acceptable, provided it maintains the same level of service that it currently has.

I would worry, however, that due to the fact it is now a one-community only service, that it would have fewer busses dedicated to it. I sincerely hope not.

No, we discussed frequencies (more on our end of the route) and were told those wouldn't change very much. I presume that the northeast end of the route wouldn't change much, other than it wouldn't go west through the Beltline and off to Spruce Cliff anymore (which is changing due to West LRT anyway, it would end at Shaganappi Point Station).

If you want to know more, you're welcome to come to the open house, or if you can't make it, I'll investigate for you.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

No, we discussed frequencies (more on our end of the route) and were told those wouldn't change very much. I presume that the northeast end of the route wouldn't change much, other than it wouldn't go west through the Beltline and off to Spruce Cliff anymore (which is changing due to West LRT anyway, it would end at Shaganappi Point Station).

If you want to know more, you're welcome to come to the open house, or if you can't make it, I'll investigate for you.

Let me know when the open house is supposed to be on and where, I'll try to be there.

[frinkprof]

I'll just leave this here.

Spoiler!

[Ozy_Flame]

I like how the Hammer Brother is coincidentally placed at the Drop-In Center

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

I'll just leave this here.

Spoiler!

Fating win!!!!

[frinkprof]

A few news items.

North Central LRT Open House Feedback Info

As you may recall, there were a few open houses held a few months ago which were very well attended. The public feedback information and comments from those events has been released, as well as some information about what happens next.

http://www.calgarytransit.com/html/n...ntral_lrt.html

At upcoming public meetings, we will:

-answer some of your questions, such as, how will North Central LRT connect with Calgary’s airport and other east-west transit routes

-confirm the evaluation criteria and your priorities; and

-show examples of public transit from around the world that are applicable to the North Central corridor.

Park and Ride Survey

There is a new online survey to provide feedback regarding the changes that the reserved parking system has brought. It is made so that people that use the free park and ride spots, the reserved spots, or neither can respond. It takes about 10 minutes to complete.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ParkAndRideSurvey

West LRT bus route changes open houses

New bus change open houses due to West LRT changes:

http://www.calgarytransit.com/html/w...t_oh_2011.html

Lakeview: Wednesday, October 26 from 4:30-9:00 p.m.
Lakeview Community Association, 6110 – 34 Street SW Main Hall

Beltline: Thursday, November 10, 2011 from 4:30-9:00 p.m.
First Baptist Church of Calgary, 1311 - 4 Street SW

Shaganappi: Thursday, November 24, 2011 from 4:00-9:00 p.m.
Shaganappi Community Hall, 2516 - 14 Avenue SW