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Old 11-17-2015, 12:56 PM   #781
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I feel like if history has taught us anything, it's to maybe not get the Germans and the Russians too fired up. Going after both at the same time appears colossally stupid to me.
Ol Corsi Hockey league posted a good (but long) article about ISIS.

That is exactly what they want. They are trying to piss off the West as much as possible to provoke the West invasion and war. They want to all die in a beautiful apocolypse, and when only a few fighters remain, god comes and saves them or some #### like that and the whole world turns muslim. Their intention is to anger Germany, France, Russia, UK and the USA (and the allies of those countries) as much as possible.

They want to return to the 7th century of war and violence.
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Old 11-17-2015, 12:56 PM   #782
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BREAKING: Reports that German police have discovered a truck bomb disguised as an ambulance near football stadium in Hanover. #GERNED

https://twitter.com/dw_sports/status/666698740108009472
Have to be thankful for them finding out about this before any damage could be done. Wow.
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Thanks. It's very interesting.

The strange part to me is why they care about the geo-politics of the middle east. Do you? I don't care at all about what happens in Asia. I'm not sure an Italian or Brazillian born in Canada would care much about Italy or Brazil

I guess I'm an assimilated Canadian. I'm not that religious either.

So I feel Muslims have a lot of pressures in society so maybe that's why they feel it's an uphill battle?
I've thought about this too.

During Remembrance Day, I was reading the testimonies of the Hong Kong Veterans Commemorative Association. This is a group of Canadian soldiers who were sent to the Hong Kong garrison during World War II and who were rapidly overrun, killed, tortured, and imprisoned by the Japanese.

As I read these stories, my anger and rage grew against the Japanese because of the heinous acts of gang rape, mutilation, torture, murder, and war crimes inflicted on both the Canadian soldiers and the local Chinese men, women, and children.

This is an especially vitriolic and poignant personal account:
http://www.hkvca.ca/historical/accou...lder/index.htm

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While I was reading this account, I wanted nothing more than to go back in time and kill those soldiers who were perpetrating these acts. These are the acts committed by monsters over 70 years ago against people 70 years dead and it still burns in my recent memory and made me want to take up arms against injustice like this. As a Canadian of Asian extract, I can't help but relate to people in these accounts and feel a completely illogical desire to avenge something that occurred completely out of time and place from my own lifespan. It's human nature to rage (internally or externally) at feelings of injustice.

As Muslims have told me, the sense of injustice that many Muslims feel regarding the collateral damage to their faith and "own people" in the middle east both contribute to to these acts but also create an atmosphere in which radicalism can gestate, feed on, and exploit to drive ordinary people to committing violence.

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Old 11-17-2015, 01:11 PM   #784
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Excellent read. It completely contradicts those who believe that ISIS is just full of murderers and psychopaths who don't care about religion, ISIS is built on one of the strictest interpretations of Islam we've ever seen.

Islam desperately needs it's own new-testament version of the Koran, yet at the same time also seems the religion least capable of adapting to modern times
This has always baffled me. Sure, it may be comforting and even get you some cheap applaud to refer to all these people as mentally deranged psychopaths bent on deliberately perpetrating pure evil... but how on Earth did they manage to find so many evil psychopaths and organize them all so well? It's a theory that should fall apart after thinking about it for ten seconds.

The better answer is that when indoctrinated with horrifying ideas, people who might, in a different universe, been perfectly well-adjusted members of a modern global society behave in awful ways.
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This has always baffled me. Sure, it may be comforting and even get you some cheap applaud to refer to all these people as mentally deranged psychopaths bent on deliberately perpetrating pure evil... but how on Earth did they manage to find so many evil psychopaths and organize them all so well? It's a theory that should fall apart after thinking about it for ten seconds.

The better answer is that when indoctrinated with horrifying ideas, people who might, in a different universe, been perfectly well-adjusted members of a modern global society behave in awful ways.
Part of the reason is that they have some former senior Iraqi military people in their ranks. It helps organize them, but also gives them credibility to those that want to join.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:21 PM   #786
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This has always baffled me. Sure, it may be comforting and even get you some cheap applaud to refer to all these people as mentally deranged psychopaths bent on deliberately perpetrating pure evil... but how on Earth did they manage to find so many evil psychopaths and organize them all so well? It's a theory that should fall apart after thinking about it for ten seconds.

The better answer is that when indoctrinated with horrifying ideas, people who might, in a different universe, been perfectly well-adjusted members of a modern global society behave in awful ways.
Because if you admit this, then you might have to acknowledge that they're human beings, and that we could be susceptible to the same things under the right circumstances. For a lot of people, it's much easier just to consider them as anomalies.
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skynews is reporting now that a second stadium in northern Germany is being evacuated.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:47 PM   #788
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skynews is reporting now that a second stadium in northern Germany is being evacuated.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0T62CH20151117
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:54 PM   #789
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BREAKING: Reports that German police have discovered a truck bomb disguised as an ambulance near football stadium in Hanover. #GERNED

https://twitter.com/dw_sports/status/666698740108009472
Is this confirmed anywhere else?
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Is this confirmed anywhere else?
Seems have been a much repeated rumour/false information.


It appears the stadium was evacuated due to a credible threat, all of the stories of finding bombs/truck bombs/ambulance bombs were fabrications filtered through the echo chamber.
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:59 PM   #792
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German newspaper Kreiszeitung first cited a source who told them there were fears of an explosives-packed ambulance.

Local interior minister Boris Pistorius said: “It can not yet be confirmed that there was an ambulance or another vehicle with explosives inside.”

However, the newspaper added that authorities did not wish to comment because they want to avoid panic and not jeopardise the investigation.

German Minister of Interior Thomas de Meizere refused answer questions about the terror attack.

He said: “Some of these answers would unsettle the population.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...celled-6849390

It sounds like something was definitely planned to take place. The bomb-packed ambulance may have been fake but it seems like there were bombs somewhere.
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I kinda want to post this to facebook but I feel like half the people on there, who have done the flag thing, will think I'm being curmudgeonly. Which is pretty ironic given the content.

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I kinda want to post this to facebook but I feel like half the people on there, who have done the flag thing, will think I'm being curmudgeonly. Which is pretty ironic given the content.

I like how well he articulated that. I found those flag profile pics to be very hollow (and distasteful as a result). Not on twitter, but I assume the hashtagging was just as weak.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:46 PM   #795
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I kinda want to post this to facebook but I feel like half the people on there, who have done the flag thing, will think I'm being curmudgeonly. Which is pretty ironic given the content.

I don't think you're being curmudgeonly, but it's also not a particularly profound take.
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New video by isis telling the refugees that they will not be welcome in the West.

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BREAKING: Two Air France planes en route to Paris diverted to Halifax, Salt Lake City for security reasons
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