Hundreds of cops making six figures

[GirlySports]

I like it. As the saying goes "you get what you pay for".

So a high salary will theoretically get good people into the force

[Crispy's Critter]

I'm glad they get paid fairly decent for what they do, but they deserve a lot more. Society is seriously flawed when people who play dress up, games, or instruments for a living make ridiculous amounts of money while people like police, teachers, nurses, EMS and firemen who actually are charged with our protection and education for the most part have to scrape by on meager wages.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

^^^^People have different opinions.
Get over it.

I'm well aware of that, my opinion is that he's a troll....

[fredr123]

Sounds like some of the top cops are being pushed pretty hard. I don't have a problem with CPS salaries per se but with such high demand on some of these guys and so much over time being paid, I hope someone reconsiders whether everyone would be better off if another body was hired.

[GreenLantern]

Put me in the "cops deserve this money" boat.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Crispy's Critter

I'm glad they get paid fairly decent for what they do, but they deserve a lot more. Society is seriously flawed when people who play dress up, games, or instruments for a living make ridiculous amounts of money while people like police, teachers, nurses, EMS and firemen who actually are charged with our protection and education for the most part have to scrape by on meager wages.

That's kind of a silly comparison (musicians, athletes, and I'm not sure what you were reffering to with "people who play dress up").

All your looking at is the very, very small top percentage who make millions and are famous. The majority of athletes and musicians don't even make enough to make a living, and work full time jobs to support their lifestyle.

Also, most of those proffessions you mentioned aren't full of people "scraping by on meager wages". I don't know who you've met, but anyone I know in the services you've listed do okay, and definitly aren't "scraping by".

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Put me in the "cops deserve this money" boat.

No doubt, I'm sure it's a very difficult job.

Those massive OT numbers are not good for a couple reasons and should be addressed. If a consty is making $100,000 in OT above normal wages, it's time to hire more officers. For the same money you could put a lot more cops on the streets.

The other thing is burn out, it will happen. Working too many hr's will catch up to you eventually, that costs people their health, happiness and often results in a career change. Been there, one year I had over 3800 hr's on my pay stub and it sounds like some of these cops are about the same. Time to hire more officers.

[Gundo]

I have yet to be shot, so I'd say it's money well spent.

[FireFly]

Out of curiousity then, after a Constable's 5th year of service, are they no longer a constable? Does no one then get a raise? Or could one in theory be a constable for 10 years and also get raises?

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by fredr123

Sounds like some of the top cops are being pushed pretty hard. I don't have a problem with CPS salaries per se but with such high demand on some of these guys and so much over time being paid, I hope someone reconsiders whether everyone would be better off if another body was hired.

That's really what I'm taking from it too. In many organizations it can often be the case that the budget base salary goal expense isn't lined up with the demands of the work that needs to be done. I imagine though that it could be difficult for the police to predict these things and hire accordingly as they aren't in control of their own workload. If bodies start piling up from an accelerated gang war then detectives, CSI, et al are going to be taxed and I wouldn't be surprised to see high OT rates.

However if a deeper dive on this reveals that there's a crapload of OT being logged by traffic cops then there might be savings to be had by hiring more cops.

[getbak]

Isn't a certain amount of OT going to happen no matter what, regardless of how many new cops are hired?

Obviously we need some cops on duty 24/7/365, so anyone who is scheduled to work on stat holidays is going to be making OT wages. Then, you add in the fact that the public wants to ensure drunk drivers are kept off the streets, and you're going to probably have more cops scheduled to work on stats like Victoria Day, Canada Day, Christmas and New Year's to run Check Stops.

I've worked at places that had 24 hour operations, and if your regular shift fell during a stat holiday, you'd get paid the OT for working those hours because they needed to keep things running. The OT was just a cost of doing business.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by getbak

Isn't a certain amount of OT going to happen no matter what, regardless of how many new cops are hired?

Obviously we need some cops on duty 24/7/365, so anyone who is scheduled to work on stat holidays is going to be making OT wages. Then, you add in the fact that the public wants to ensure drunk drivers are kept off the streets, and you're going to probably have more cops scheduled to work on stats like Victoria Day, Canada Day, Christmas and New Year's to run Check Stops.

I've worked at places that had 24 hour operations, and if your regular shift fell during a stat holiday, you'd get paid the OT for working those hours because they needed to keep things running. The OT was just a cost of doing business.

Not only that, but events like Flames games, the Flames hire off duty cops, cops are not going to be scheduled to wander the dome. But then the Flames pay to have them there as well so that's not really part of the city budget, either...

[Young-Sneezy]

As per: http://calgarypolicenews.typepad.com...cruiting/faqs/

"3. What are your educational requirements?

Currently the Calgary Police Service does not have a minimum education requirement. However, the selection process is extremely competitive. Historically, competitive applicants will poses some form of post secondary education, this may include a certificate, diploma, degree or technical / trade related education. A competitive applicant will display a strong balance between education, life experience, work experience and a demonstrated commitment towards community involvement."


guaranteed 90K after only 5 years with no educational requirements seems to be pretty fair...Lest we forget, these people are getting their 90K (and apparently, up to 150 - 160 Range) then getting a sweet, sweet pension...

that seems like fair compensation..

*Notes*

Yes, i see it says they like having other things
Yes, I know you need to be a super guy to be a cop
Yes, I know your brothers uncles cousins bestest friend is a Cop, and he had it tough
Yes, I thanked the post about ticket writers, its a joke, get over it. No one likes the "hayyy thats not nice" guy.

[ynwa03]

Damn crooked cops.

[MJM]

I'm sorry, but 100K for a cop is an absolutely ridiculous salary for a relatively uneducated individual. No where in this argument does anyone point towards their benefits (second to none) and their pension (again, second to none). Without consideration of OT (which if they are anything like nurses would be abused), i'm betting all in compensation for 5th year police officer is 150K. That to me is excessive for a public servant.

[Crispy's Critter]

Originally Posted by flameswin

That's kind of a silly comparison (musicians, athletes, and I'm not sure what you were reffering to with "people who play dress up").

All your looking at is the very, very small top percentage who make millions and are famous. The majority of athletes and musicians don't even make enough to make a living, and work full time jobs to support their lifestyle.

Also, most of those proffessions you mentioned aren't full of people "scraping by on meager wages". I don't know who you've met, but anyone I know in the services you've listed do okay, and definitly aren't "scraping by".

You totally missed the point, which is that the people who actually make a difference in our lives are not compensated anywhere near enough in comparison to someone who is an entertainer. Why does someone who pretends to be a cop (the people playing dress up) make hundreds of thousands (or millions in some cases) of dollars whereas someone who actually may have to risk their lives to save ours only make a little bit, and they are begrudged even that? There is something seriously flawed with that in my opinion.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy

As per: http://calgarypolicenews.typepad.com...cruiting/faqs/

"3. What are your educational requirements?

Currently the Calgary Police Service does not have a minimum education requirement. However, the selection process is extremely competitive. Historically, competitive applicants will poses some form of post secondary education, this may include a certificate, diploma, degree or technical / trade related education. A competitive applicant will display a strong balance between education, life experience, work experience and a demonstrated commitment towards community involvement."


guaranteed 90K after only 5 years with no educational requirements seems to be pretty fair...Lest we forget, these people are getting their 90K (and apparently, up to 150 - 160 Range) then getting a sweet, sweet pension...

that seems like fair compensation..

*Notes*

Yes, i see it says they like having other things
Yes, I know you need to be a super guy to be a cop
Yes, I know your brothers uncles cousins bestest friend is a Cop, and he had it tough
Yes, I thanked the post about ticket writers, its a joke, get over it. No one likes the "hayyy thats not nice" guy.

Was there a point to this post? Because I really don't see one. Cops get fair compensation? so you agree? or are you trying to say cops have no education and they are stupid so they don't deserve a good life and a good salary?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Crispy's Critter

You totally missed the point, which is that the people who actually make a difference in our lives are not compensated anywhere near enough in comparison to someone who is an entertainer. Why does someone who pretends to be a cop (the people playing dress up) make hundreds of thousands (or millions in some cases) of dollars whereas someone who actually may have to risk their lives to save ours only make a little bit, and they are begrudged even that? There is something seriously flawed with that in my opinion.

Kind of ironic considering your avatar and sig

I get your point, but the fact is that those people only make what they do becasue the rest of us will pay to support it. Iron Maiden doesn't make a penny unless people buy albums, tickets, merchandise etc. It's not as if it was decided that entertainers are more deserving than cops by some sort of global council, we've decided that through our actions.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by MJM

I'm sorry, but 100K for a cop is an absolutely ridiculous salary for a relatively undeducated individual.

I'm not usually big on correcting people's spelling mistakes, but that is absolutely brilliant!!

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by MJM

I'm sorry, but 100K for a cop is an absolutely ridiculous salary for a relatively undeducated individual. No where in this argument is anyone point towards their benefits (second to none) and their pension (again, second to none). Without consideration of OT (which if they are anything like nurses would be abused), i'm betting all in compensation for 5th year police officer is 150K. That to me is excessive for a public servant.

And where are you getting this info from?