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Table 5 · 11-02-2010, 09:55 PM

I'm just glad I don't have to watch the terrible campaign ads on tv anymore. Then again it's probably back to 90% pharma commercials again...

Flames Fan, Ph.D. · 11-02-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

I'm just glad I don't have to watch the terrible campaign ads on tv anymore. Then again it's probably back to 90% pharma commercials again...

If you're feeling sad about that, there's probably a drug for it...

GirlySports · 11-02-2010, 10:11 PM

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It's almost over!!! No matter the results, it's almost over!!!

By the way, Meg "I spent $150+M on this election" Whitman is behind in the polls.

She's officially lost now. That's alot of money down the drain.

DemolitionCat · 11-02-2010, 10:18 PM

Hahahahahaha ! Americans are so funny!

It must suck to have to live there.

PIMking · 11-02-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

1) With regards to military spending, we're simply pointing out large expenditures in the budget. If you want to reduce your annual spending, it's reasonable to look where most of your money is going. And currently, military spending (domestic spending + two wars) is a large proportion.

2) The argument that the defense spending stays home is irrelevant. By that regard, the US should be spending most of its money on health care because that spending necessarily stays home. Therefore, that argument is no more applicable to defense than any other domestic initiative.

3) I realize the "raise taxes - lose the rich" is a mantra. For over 30 years between 1950 and 1986, the top marginal rate was greater than 50%. In fact, for all but 5 of those years, it was 69% or above. Am I to believe that the rich just couldn't find the opportunity during 30 years to flee the US and leave it as a cratered, wanna-be economic power that lost its rich business producers to other countries? The real world fact is that people are not that infinitely mobile that they're going to start swapping countries every time their marginal income tax is altered by 2-3%.

4) As far as businesses are concerned, it's all irrelevant because most of the large, profitable companies are paying effective tax rates below 10%. US companies aren't moving production to other countries because they're being squeezed by taxes, but rather because the inherent employment costs in a developed country like the US are higher than China / Taiwan / etc. There is practically nothing the government can do in this regard outside of directly subsidizing wages and/or advocating the impoverishment of its citizens.

5) Good point about Obama going to India. If he only stayed home the budget would be ok. I don't know where he got the idea that, as president, he should be taking diplomatic trips to other countries. He should at least fly coach like Bush, Clinton and Bush before him.

Be my guest and take Diplomatic trips; but at 200 Million a day? Didn't his wife take a trip that was like 20 million a couple of months ago.

PIMking · 11-02-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionCat

Hahahahahaha ! Americans are so funny!

It must suck to have to live there.

Yea, the freedom and the opportunities really suck....

Table 5 · 11-02-2010, 10:27 PM

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It must suck to have to live there.

Yep, hell on earth.

SebC · 11-02-2010, 10:28 PM

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Raise taxes? really? haven't we learned enough from history about raising taxes? Romans did that and the rich took their money elsewhere. When the money and the rich are gone and your "tax profit" is down due to the people that did have money are now gone.

It's an equilibrium. Raising taxes can make tax revenue go down but it can also make tax revenue go up. At 0% tax, you have $0 tax revenue. There's a point where raising taxes makes revenue go down, but I'm not convinced the US is there.

DemolitionCat · 11-02-2010, 10:33 PM

Alabama! New York! Hahahahahaha!!! Both ends of the d- bag spectrum at once!!!

Actually Bwahahahaha!!! Morans!!!

PIMking · 11-02-2010, 10:41 PM

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It's an equilibrium. Raising taxes can make tax revenue go down but it can also make tax revenue go up. At 0% tax, you have $0 tax revenue. There's a point where raising taxes makes revenue go down, but I'm not convinced the US is there.

I didn't say get rid of taxes, I just wanted taxes no to blow up on the first of the year. (Another lie that the DEMs and Obama promised that they wouldn't do)

PIMking · 11-02-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionCat

Alabama! New York! Hahahahahaha!!! Both ends of the d- bag spectrum at once!!!

Actually Bwahahahaha!!! Morans!!!

I am willing to bet that you're probably from Edmonton aren't you?

Hemi-Cuda · 11-02-2010, 10:48 PM

so Obama could hardly get anything done when Democrats were in full control, now i guess absolutely nothing gets done for the next 2 years?

Montana Moe · 11-02-2010, 10:48 PM

Wow...

Meg Whitman's personal spending on her campaign: $163 mil.
Natl Endowment for the Arts 2010 budget: $161.4 mil.

GirlySports · 11-02-2010, 10:50 PM

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so Obama could hardly get anything done when Democrats were in full control, now i guess absolutely nothing gets done for the next 2 years?

He going to be doing alot of vetoing

DemolitionCat · 11-02-2010, 10:51 PM

Hahahhhaahhaaahahahahaahaha!

Someone from 'bama tries to talk bad about Edmonton!! Who writes the material for these people? I'm not from Edmonton, but if I was I would know the inbreeding rate is one sixth of that in Alabama'

Table 5 · 11-02-2010, 10:53 PM

^ who is this ass-hat, and what is he going on about?

PIMking · 11-02-2010, 10:53 PM

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so Obama could hardly get anything done when Democrats were in full control, now i guess absolutely nothing gets done for the next 2 years?

Look, I'm a conservative, I'm a registered Republican. I really honestly am tired of the pitting of two political parties. I really hope that this will force the two parties to finally come to a head and sit down and talk about issues. We as a country need some continuity, we need ideas that don't benefit just one side of the political spectrum. I really hope that this will open up the door.

DemolitionCat · 11-02-2010, 10:54 PM

I love the deep insight!

PIMking · 11-02-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionCat

Hahahhhaahhaaahahahahaahaha!

Someone from 'bama tries to talk bad about Edmonton!! Who writes the material for these people? I'm not from Edmonton, but if I was I would know the inbreeding rate is one sixth of that in Alabama'

Funny thing is, I'm not from here, I live here now....

So nice try fella.... But I can always pull out the Canadian Tuxedo jokes, Mullets jokes and other jokes about Canada. The funny thing is by what you're saying you're the one that sounds like the imbred hillbilly from Alabama not an "educated" yankee.

What's Ironic is; I have bad spelling and grammar, but when I call someone a "moron" I at least make sure I spell it right.

Table 5 · 11-02-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMking

I really hope that this will force the two parties to finally come to a head and sit down and talk about issues. We as a country need some continuity, we need ideas that don't benefit just one side of the political spectrum. I really hope that this will open up the door.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Republicans haven't even tried to co-operate since Obama came to power, and it's lead them to win more seats, so I doubt they are going to change their strategy now.

It's going to be more of the same petty infighting from both sides. Meanwhile the country is headed to a darker and darker place because nothing get's done, and the only thing people are worried about is sticking it to the other guy.