Taber man charged with assault for protecting his wife/home

[speede5]

Originally Posted by fredr123

Edit 2: Ugh. And his lawyer described it as "meting out a little prairie justice". That kind of thing is exactly what the police and the Crown don't want citizens to do.

His lawyer said it WASN'T a case of meting out a little prairie justice. Big difference.

[CaptainCrunch]

You see, this is the problem.

If someone is in my house and I get the drop on him, I kill him dismember his body, sell his organs to china, dump the leftovers in a tailing pond, and sell his car for parts.

Then I burn my house to the ground to remove any forensics evidence, wait until the statute of limitations expire and write a book titled "I killed the f$$ker, yes that was me and you can do"

I make a profit
rid the world of a scumbag
Save a few lives with some organs
????

[Mightyfire89]

[QUOTE=fredr123;2748677]One of the newspaper articles described the guy as a farmer. They also said that the burglar fled the scene and got tangled in barbed-wire on the fence to his property. Sounds like this was rural property and not in the town proper. Not sure how that affects the case though.

Edit: The Calgary Herald says it was an acreage: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/RC...733/story.html

Edit 2: Ugh. And his lawyer described it as "meting out a little prairie justice". That kind of thing is exactly what the police and the Crown don't want citizens to do.[/QUOTE]

I don't read it that way. The relevant passage:

This is an innocent man who has been wrongly charged with a heinous offence," said Taber defence lawyer Doug Carle.
"This wasn't a case of him meting out a bit of prairie justice. The point we're trying to make is that there're two sides to this story. The only side the Crown is listening to is the side of the criminal. My client was never interviewed about it."

I see speede5 beat me to it.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I make a profit
rid the world of a scumbag
Save a few lives with some organs
????

The force is strong with this one.

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by speede5

His lawyer said it WASN'T a case of meting out a little prairie justice. Big difference.

fredr123, nice quote

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Why is it a joke? Because he was charged? He hasn't been convicted of anything yet. I would think if the Police summarily decided this person was not guilty without a trial, there would be much more reason to be concerned about the Canadian Justice System.

There is evidence a serious crime has been committed (aka smashed face). There is also evidence that could lead to that assault being justified. Who is qualified to determine if the person is guilty? Not the police officer.

But that's just me.

Because being charged in the first place is a joke. I'm not the first or the last person to think the Canadian system is a joke.

It's not only this case, but other cases like the Khadr case which makes it the most lenient system against criminals.

Someone enters your home for criminal purposes and you hand them a beating you should get a medal not a criminal record. I would have shot his face in and slipped a knife in the scumbags hands and just say he attacked me with a knife.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by Pinner

fredr123, nice quote

[mykalberta]

No matter the outcome of the trial the man was justified in his actions.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Because being charged in the first place is a joke. I'm not the first or the last person to think the Canadian system is a joke.

It's not only this case, but other cases like the Khadr case which makes it the most lenient system against criminals.

Someone enters your home for criminal purposes and you hand them a beating you should get a medal not a criminal record. I would have shot his face in and slipped a knife in the scumbags hands and just say he attacked me with a knife.

No you wouldn't have

BTW, what aprt of this makes the system lenient against criminals? Did I miss something? The guys who broke into the house aren't getting their sentences reduced by whatever amount this guy gets.

And please, if the Canadian system is such a joke feel free to move along to one of those truly advanced justice systems like Saudi Arabia.

[TylerSVT]

IMO the minute you commit a crime such as this and put other people in danger all your rights go out the window.

Same with drunk drivers, you drive drunk and you lose all rights.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

IMO the minute you commit a crime such as this and put other people in danger all your rights go out the window.

Same with drunk drivers, you drive drunk and you lose all rights.

I agree. This husband should be locked up and the key thrown away. As soon as he blocked the young man's means of escape, his rights vanished.

[burn_this_city]

Its a shame he didnt bury the axe in the guys back, then maybe the charges would be warranted.

[Champion]

It's justified. Man and his wife see that somebody is robbing them. You call the police right away and let them handle it. You don't go play hero. What if the robber had a gun?

Sure the thief deserves a good shot to the head, but that's not the way to go about it.

[theonlywhiteout]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

IMO the minute you commit a crime such as this and put other people in danger all your rights go out the window.

Same with drunk drivers, you drive drunk and you lose all rights.

Really? So if I see a drunk driver I can run him off the road, rape him (or her), then murder them excecution style and I'd be a-Ok to do so? I know that's an extreme example but you can't possibly be serious right?

I think a lot of people who agree with the Texas man's rights to murder 2 guys robbing his neighbours house by shooting them in the back and defend this guy in Taber put too much stock in property and material wealth. Under no circumstance are my personal property or possesions more important than the safety of me and my family. Ever. When this lunatic saw someone breaking into his home and baracaded the thief inside he made a choice. He chose vigilante justice, as evididenced by the axe smashing in the face of the burgler. Was the victim wrong to ransack another mans house? Yes. Was he wrong to try and steal someone elses things? Oh yes. But putting his wifes life in danger by blocking his exit and forcing a confrentation is insane. Let the cops worry about law enforcement; this isn't the wild west. And to those who would respond by saying the cops won't catch the guy, maybe, maybe not. But if I had to chose to catching a guy but by doing so risking the lives of my family members --even by 5%-- I let the guy walk away with a TV or xbox. Hell I wouldn't even risk my dogs life to that material bullcrap.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Because being charged in the first place is a joke. I'm not the first or the last person to think the Canadian system is a joke.

It's not only this case, but other cases like the Khadr case which makes it the most lenient system against criminals.

Someone enters your home for criminal purposes and yo wu hand them a beating you should get a medal not a criminal record. I would have shot his face in and slipped a knife in the scumbags hands and just say he attacked me with a knife.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout

Really? So if I see a drunk driver I can run him off the road, rape him (or her), then murder them excecution style and I'd be a-Ok to do so? I know that's an extreme example but you can't possibly be serious right?

I think a lot of people who agree with the Texas man's rights to murder 2 guys robbing his neighbours house by shooting them in the back and defend this guy in Taber put too much stock in property and material wealth. Under no circumstance are my personal property or possesions more important than the safety of me and my family. Ever. When this lunatic saw someone breaking into his home and baracaded the thief inside he made a choice. He chose vigilante justice, as evididenced by the axe smashing in the face of the burgler. Was the victim wrong to ransack another mans house? Yes. Was he wrong to try and steal someone elses things? Oh yes. But putting his wifes life in danger by blocking his exit and forcing a confrentation is insane. Let the cops worry about law enforcement; this isn't the wild west. And to those who would respond by saying the cops won't catch the guy, maybe, maybe not. But if I had to chose to catching a guy but by doing so risking the lives of my family members --even by 5%-- I let the guy walk away with a TV or xbox. Hell I wouldn't even risk my dogs life to that material bullcrap.

Spoken like someone whos never had anything irreplaceable stolen. The cops are useless when it comes to recovering stolen property. Hell they couldnt even get the guys family heirlooms back and they caught them the same night. If given the chance I'm going to defend my family and property.

[CaptainCrunch]

He should have beaten the guy around the head and ears with a not yet ripe ear of delicious taber corn. If your going to met out vigilantie justice you might as well throw some poetic justice in there somehow.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Spoken like someone whos never had anything irreplaceable stolen. The cops are useless when it comes to recovering stolen property. Hell they couldnt even get the guys family heirlooms back and they caught them the same night. If given the chance I'm going to defend my family and property.

I've had irreplacable things stolen and I agree with every single word of that post.

What's more important to you, possessions or the safety of your loved ones? Read my previous post if you think that you can have it both ways.

[HeartsOfFire]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Its a shame he didnt bury the axe in the guys back, then maybe the charges would be warranted.

Bury the hatchet, as it were?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Canadian laws neuter men from protecting the safety of their homes and families.

Usually the useless government revenue collector cops don't show up for awhile, especially in a rural areas.

Don't want blunt force trauma? Don't break into peoples homes...

What really irritated me was the reaction of the media the first few days. They printed the name of the man trying to protect his family, but only named the real criminals as "suspects".