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View Poll Results: Which Mayoral candidate do you support?
Bob Hawkesworth 1 0.63%
Joe Connelly 3 1.89%
Craig Burrows 1 0.63%
Naheed Nenshi 65 40.88%
Kent Hehr 34 21.38%
Jon Lord 3 1.89%
Ric McIver 38 23.90%
Paul Hughes 2 1.26%
Wayne Stewart 1 0.63%
Alnoor Kassam 11 6.92%
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Old 07-13-2010, 09:38 AM   #61
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This is a better video of Nenshi - because it relates more directly to election issues than the one above, which is a TEDxCalgary talk:

Good speaker is Nenshi.

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Old 07-13-2010, 09:53 AM   #62
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So he's going to solve the affordable housing problem by allowing secondary suites everywhere? No, sonny, that's not going to do anything.

So if I understand him correctly the coloured people, instead of living in the NE in single family homes, will live in basements in Bridgeland. Sounds feasible.

Psst, Nenshi... Not everyone has an entrepreneural bent. And city "red tape" isn't what's stopping them... It's RISK. And CAPITAL. You needs lots of the second and get lots of the first in return. Jesus, dude, you're an economist.
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I was tentatively siding with McIver until I found out he was involved with this little gathering. The fact that they are publicly expressing their religious beliefs is totally fine, of course, but the Street Church people are real creeps and somehow affiliated with Craig Chandler.

http://streetchurch.ca/index.php/201...er-Forget.html
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I was tentatively siding with McIver until I found out he was involved with this little gathering. The fact that they are publicly expressing their religious beliefs is totally fine, of course, but the Street Church people are real creeps and somehow affiliated with Craig Chandler.

http://streetchurch.ca/index.php/201...er-Forget.html
Look at all those creepy religious people.
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I was tentatively siding with McIver until I found out he was involved with this little gathering. The fact that they are publicly expressing their religious beliefs is totally fine, of course, but the Street Church people are real creeps and somehow affiliated with Craig Chandler.

http://streetchurch.ca/index.php/201...er-Forget.html
Ric McIver on behalf of the City of Calgary endorsed the public proclamation of Jesus Christ and freedom of religion and expression. Jim Blake then prayed over Ric McIver and His wife asking God to bless them and to give Ric McIver the wisdom of Solomon but that God would protect him from the end that Solomon met.
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Religion: It's the new old gay!
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:22 AM   #67
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Ric McIver on behalf of the City of Calgary endorsed the public proclamation of Jesus Christ and freedom of religion and expression. Jim Blake then prayed over Ric McIver and His wife asking God to bless them and to give Ric McIver the wisdom of Solomon but that God would protect him from the end that Solomon met.
There are two readings of that statement.

The favourable: That Ric McIver is a man of good liberal and humanist intentions and believes that all religious groups deserve the right to publicly proclaim their beliefs without the threat of harm from other citizens or oppression from their government.

The less favourable: That Ric McIver is somehow tied up with the Street Church mob (which includes Craig Chandler) and is almost certainly receiving donations in kind for his appearance at the March.
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There are two readings of that statement.

The favourable: That Ric McIver is a man of good liberal and humanist intentions and believes that all religious groups deserve the right to publicly proclaim their beliefs without the threat of harm from other citizens or oppression from their government.

The less favourable: That Ric McIver is somehow tied up with the Street Church mob (which includes Craig Chandler) and is almost certainly receiving donations in kind for his appearance at the March.
Not that I really care anyhow, but what organizations are acceptable to you that give donations to politicians?
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Wayne Stewart's camp just released this poll result via twitter, anyone heard of 'The Alberta Courage Network' before?

http://www.albertacourage.net/ACNPol...tsJuly2010.pdf
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There are two readings of that statement.

The favourable: That Ric McIver is a man of good liberal and humanist intentions and believes that all religious groups deserve the right to publicly proclaim their beliefs without the threat of harm from other citizens or oppression from their government.

The less favourable: That Ric McIver is somehow tied up with the Street Church mob (which includes Craig Chandler) and is almost certainly receiving donations in kind for his appearance at the March.
My problem with the statement is that he presumed to speak on behalf of the City Of Calgary.
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Not that I really care anyhow, but what organizations are acceptable to you that give donations to politicians?
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Chandler and some of the Street Church fellows are just shady all around. Plus they say things which make most decent-minded folks cringe a little bit. McIver can do whatever he wants, I'm just saying that his involvement with these folks abhors me.
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My problem with the statement is that he presumed to speak on behalf of the City Of Calgary.
Technically there is nothing wrong with that.
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Chandler and some of the Street Church fellows are just shady all around. Plus they say things which make most decent-minded folks cringe a little bit. McIver can do whatever he wants, I'm just saying that his involvement with these folks abhors me.
What do they say that make you cringe?

As for McIver, the guy's a dork, but whatever.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:33 AM   #74
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Wayne Stewart's camp just released this poll result via twitter, anyone heard of 'The Alberta Courage Network' before?

http://www.albertacourage.net/ACNPol...tsJuly2010.pdf
That poll must have a margin of error of about 44% if Stewart got 44% of the vote! Frankly I consider myself well informed and I have no idea who the guy is (aside from the campaign). Sure he has a few bus signs, but otherwise all I know is he wants to bid for the olympics.

I doubt most people even associate him with the idea of bidding for the olympics, let alone support the idea!

McIver is the front runner as well....despite what the poll shows here on CP, or the courage network, there is a pretty clear sentiment that McIver will get more than 5th place.

Frankly this comes down to 2 maybe 3 combatants come September. McIver and Hehr and perhaps Nenshi. Naheed does well on these internet polls, but that is a skewed demographic and in the real world I'm not so sure it translates. If I had to guess today I would say a poll would look something like this:

McIver 35%
Hehr 27%
Nenshi 9%
Rest and undecided: 29%

In other news only semi-related I met a Joe Connelly supporter. OK....I kind of lied. My wife met him, but he wasn't Joe and was actually a supporter of him! I didn't know that any existed!!
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Anyhoo, back to the Nenshi propaganda, it's interesting that he chooses Curitiba as a model city.

Curitiba is actually very "sprawly" (compare their metro density to ours), but they have a very extensive public transit system that allows for pretty decent travel all across the city. They actually don't have much of a central area. I wonder who paid for that infrastructure.

Also interesting is that Curitiba is mostly white, with poor (coloured) people getting such wonderful privileges like "low-income families living in shantytowns unreachable by truck bring their trash bags to neighbourhood centres, where they exchange them for bus tickets and food." This would solve Forest Lawn's problems!

I also find it strange that Nenshi thinks Toronto's a great city. The GTA is sprawl to the extreme.
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Wayne Stewart's camp just released this poll result via twitter, anyone heard of 'The Alberta Courage Network' before?

http://www.albertacourage.net/ACNPol...tsJuly2010.pdf
The poll also shows little support for the development of Calgary's ring road. That's a laugher. This poll is likely the work of inner city elitists. It can't be taken seriously.
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The poll also shows little support for the development of Calgary's ring road. That's a laugher. This poll is likely the work of inner city elitists. It can't be taken seriously.
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The on-line poll was conducted from July 2-8, 2010 with 206 Calgarians. It is considered accurate within + or – 6.9%, 19 times out of 20. The poll was independently conducted without the support of any candidate. ACN does not endorse any particular civic candidate.
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So he's going to solve the affordable housing problem by allowing secondary suites everywhere? No, sonny, that's not going to do anything.

So if I understand him correctly the coloured people, instead of living in the NE in single family homes, will live in basements in Bridgeland. Sounds feasible.

Psst, Nenshi... Not everyone has an entrepreneural bent. And city "red tape" isn't what's stopping them... It's RISK. And CAPITAL. You needs lots of the second and get lots of the first in return. Jesus, dude, you're an economist.
Secondary suites is certainly one way to help with affordable housing. I live in a secondary suite in Toronto. 1/5th of the rental stock in Toronto is comprised of secondary suites, so it's a major factor and something relatively easy and inexpensive to increase the rental housing stock. It also allows homeowners to better leverage their property and supplement their increasingly expensive mortgages with rental income. win-win.

I don't think he's claiming it's the only solution. On your second point, no I clearly don't think you're understanding him correctly.

Your third point, regarding red tape. This is an issue that especially effects small and start up businesses. Certainly risk and capital are factors, but talk to any small business owner and they'll tell you how difficult it is at times to deal with the City on often trivial issues. Zak Pashak - candidate for ward 8, a small business owner himself (he owns Broken City) has made this issue one of the main planks of his campaign.
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That poll seems very suspect, I agree. I have a hard time believing that Wayne Stewart would be leading city-wide with a 1/3 share. If it's online, I would guess that it is something that is closely tied to Stewart's efforst with the Calgary Homeless Foundation or something. Clearly not representative.
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The poll also shows little support for the development of Calgary's ring road. That's a laugher. This poll is likely the work of inner city elitists. It can't be taken seriously.
Not sure you can be taken seriously using a term like "inner city elitists". Surprised you didn't call them "latte sippers". Nonetheless, I agree, the poll is clearly not representative, but not because of some sort of perceived inner-city vs suburban split.
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