Photos of a Mexican Drug Lord's house after being raided

[Gundo]

Originally Posted by flameswin

You don't get it as much if you're having a good time, and already drunk by the time you're coming down.

If it's broken out at around 12:30 am and you have about 3 or 4 dudes in a room with no way of sunlight entering then you should get in a good 2-4 hours of telling stories about the good old days.

If the jimmy runs out before the booze than it's common practice to order up another bag and continue until there isn't one drop of alchohal in the house.

It's around this time when the deppression kicks in and you realize just how big of loser you are considering it's 8am and outside those curtains are actually people going to work/school/ jogging etc.



A simple equation is: Cocaine = Time x Booze


where cocaine is directly proportional to the amount of alcohal available















so I've heard anyways

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

As someone who has never touched drugs and don't really see the point of doing anything hard, I just find it depressing that people need artificial assistance in enjoying life. I know I shouldn't judge others but rather than getting high why don't people go to the gym, hike up a mountain or something else they enjoy. Granted I have yet to try anything like that while high so maybe I don't know what I am missing. Junkies are the most depressing people in the world though, mainly because they offer nothing to society and their entire world revolves around the next hit.

Edit: That isn't even mentioning the mental health ramifications of drugs such as cocaine and the elevated risks of illnesses such as schizophrenia.

[Tron_fdc]

Since when does climbing a mountain lead to threesomes, naked pool parties, and turtle d*ck?

Oh, and moral hangovers.

I digress.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

As someone who has never touched drugs and don't really see the point of doing anything hard, I just find it depressing that people need artificial assistance in enjoying life. I know I shouldn't judge others but rather than getting high why don't people go to the gym, hike up a mountain or something else they enjoy. Granted I have yet to try anything like that while high so maybe I don't know what I am missing. Junkies are the most depressing people in the world though, mainly because they offer nothing to society and their entire world revolves around the next hit.

Edit: That isn't even mentioning the mental health ramifications of drugs such as cocaine and the elevated risks of illnesses such as schizophrenia.

Do you drink?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

As someone who has never touched drugs and don't really see the point of doing anything hard, I just find it depressing that people need artificial assistance in enjoying life. I know I shouldn't judge others but rather than getting high why don't people go to the gym, hike up a mountain or something else they enjoy. Granted I have yet to try anything like that while high so maybe I don't know what I am missing. Junkies are the most depressing people in the world though, mainly because they offer nothing to society and their entire world revolves around the next hit.

Edit: That isn't even mentioning the mental health ramifications of drugs such as cocaine and the elevated risks of illnesses such as schizophrenia.

I don't want to come off as someone defending drugs, as that isn't my intention, but your post appears to be lumping everyone who does drugs into one group.

First of all, if you're going to say that it's depressing that people need artifical assistance to enjoy life, than you better include people who drink into the mix, and at that point you're talking about a majority of citizens in any society.

Secondly, there's a difference between a junkie and someone who just does drugs sometimes. Yes, people whose sole purpose has become to find the next hit and who don't contribute anything to society are depressing to be around. But that's not what every drug user is. There are many people who just do it while they're partying or with friends, and don't get up the next morning and start looking for the next hit.


but rather than getting high why don't people go to the gym, hike up a mountain or something else they enjoy

That's a good question. Personally, I do both, and I guess the answer would be; Why does anyone do anything that isn't to the total benifit of their health? People smoke, do drugs, drink, eat poorly, play video games, sit in front of computers, etc. None of those things are good for you, but it's human nature to indulge in things that are easy and make you feel good in the present moment. Eating a salad is better than eating a slice of pizza, so why do people eat pizza?

[SebC]

Isn't cocaine ridiculously addictive? I was not aware that there were so many casual users.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by SebC

Isn't cocaine ridiculously addictive? I was not aware that there were so many casual users.

Nope not really. Crack cocaine is the ridiculously addictive drug.

But people also say that weed isn't that addictive and I know tons of people who do it everyday.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by SebC

I was not aware that there were so many casual users.

you'd be surprised.

When i was going out a lot a few years back, i couldn't pre party at my place without having people doing lines in my bathroom (all young professionals mind you)...

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by SebC

Isn't cocaine ridiculously addictive? I was not aware that there were so many casual users.

When I started doing it here and there, I was blown away by the amount of people I knew that came out of the woodwork and said they also do it occasionally, when they found out I did. It wasn't just the amount of people that surprised me, but the types of people. People I would never suspect.

If there's one thing about coke, it's definitly the easist drug to "hide" from people. It comes in tiny bags, doesn't have a powerful smell and for the most part someone can be high on blow and still act fairly normal. As opposed to something like weed, where you have to carry around joints or bags of weed, it smells potent, and remains on a persons clothing, their eyes turn red, etc.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Nope not really. Crack cocaine is the ridiculously addictive drug.

But people also say that weed isn't that addictive and I know tons of people who do it everyday.

Well. That seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well. That seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

Yep it sure is. You will never get a person who does weed everyday to admit they're addicted though.

"I'm not addicted, I just enjoy it"

"I can stop anytime, but I don't want to"

Sorry, you're addicted.

Having said that, I smoke weed probably about once a week and I'm definetly not addicted

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Yep it sure is. You will never get a person who does weed everyday to admit they're addicted though.

"I'm not addicted, I just enjoy it"

"I can stop anytime, but I don't want to"

Sorry, you're addicted.

I admit it. I can't sleep without weed

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Yep it sure is. You will never get a person who does weed everyday to admit they're addicted though.

"I'm not addicted, I just enjoy it"

"I can stop anytime, but I don't want to"

Sorry, you're addicted.

I tend to agree. You hear lots of people say weed isn't adictive, and like coke, I'm sure there are lots of people who can do it occasionally. But I also see lots of people need pot really bad, and then turn around give the old "I could quit right now if I wanted to" story.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by flameswin

I tend to agree. You hear lots of people say weed isn't adictive, and like coke, I'm sure there are lots of people who can do it occasionally. But I also see lots of people need pot really bad, and then turn around give the old "I could quit right now if I wanted to" story.

Like Calgarypuck

[stang]

I didnt really like coke....

I sure did love the smell of it though!

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

(all young professionals mind you)...

Everything I know about young professionals and cocaine, I learned from Die Hard.

[Nehkara]

From my perspective as a health care professional, cocaine's danger lies not only in its addictive qualities but also in its very serious detrimental health effects.

Cocaine can cause heart attack, aneurysms in your heart and brain, and seizures.

It is nasty nasty stuff.

I read about a patient one time who had five aneurysms in his brain due to cocaine use.

Not only does cocaine predispose users to these conditions, outcomes are often worse in cocaine users than people who incidentally get these conditions.

Also, it does not take daily use to have the above effects, people who use cocaine only once a week are seriously at risk for significant detrimental health effects.

Anyway... I don't mean to preach, I just know what effect this drug can have and it is hard to be okay with people using it.

I realize that casual users are less likely to have the above side effects but I also know that it does not take much for a casual user to become an addict.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

From my perspective as a health care professional, cocaine's danger lies not only in its addictive qualities but also in its very serious detrimental health effects.

Cocaine can cause heart attack, aneurysms in your heart and brain, and seizures.

It is nasty nasty stuff.

I read about a patient one time who had five aneurysms in his brain due to cocaine use.

Not only does cocaine predispose users to these conditions, outcomes are often worse in cocaine users than people who incidentally get these conditions.

Also, it does not take daily use to have the above effects, people who use cocaine only once a week are seriously at risk for significant detrimental health effects.

Anyway... I don't mean to preach, I just know what effect this drug can have and it is hard to be okay with people using it.

I realize that casual users are less likely to have the above side effects but I also know that it does not take much for a casual user to become an addict.

Don't feel bad about preaching. I've heard some of the things that can happen due to cocaine use, and would rather know as much as I can, rather than bury my head in the sand (which is what a lot of people who do drugs tend to do).

I don't do it very often, but I still realize there are dangers, both short term and long term.

I've heard that heavy cocaine use over a long period of time can lead to schizophrenia in some people. Is that true, or is that fearmongering?

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by flameswin

rather than bury my head in the snow

fyp

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by flameswin

I've heard that heavy cocaine use over a long period of time can lead to schizophrenia in some people. Is that true, or is that fearmongering?

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_.../ID=1398511775

That's supposedly true for Marijuana