It's called 'common sense' yet not everyone has it

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Mar 7 2005, 10:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Mar 7 2005, 10:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> One time I was strolling down the sidewalk in downtown Lethbridge[/b]

Well, there's your first problem....

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Quick Bonus Question For CPers in Lethbridge: What day of the week do you think the above story happened on? [/quote]
Gotta be a thursday.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Mar 7 2005, 11:50 PM
I thought that was a little odd and then he went around the block again and they did exactly the same thing and I got 7 or 8 more big smiles. I had to laugh/grin myself by the third pass so it was Mission: Accomplished and they went on their way.

Perhaps they were checking you out for a "genetic donation".....

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101@Mar 7 2005, 10:21 PM
While we are complaining about larger SUV's and how they are useless, I'm going to swing it the other way and complain about cars. I mean, how useless can they possibly be? They can't tow anything, you can't haul anything more than a few bags of groceries, moving your residence is a big problem, and you can't go off-road (ie real camping).

Couple things...

Any car with a trunk can haul a lot more than "a couple bags of groceries".

You can tow a regular 16-foot-boat with a regular car.

The type of person that is willing to shell out 50 grand for a Suburban does not worry about fitting all his stuff in there when he wants to move.

You are right, it was a Thursday.

[4X4]

I find it ironic that I happen to live less than 10 minutes (on foot) from a train station, but rarely use calgary transit. My line of work is incompatible with transit.
On the other hand, a friend of mine has to hike 20 minutes (may not sound like much, but it adds up) to the train, then go downtown, then out to glenbrook to get to work. It takes him 40 minutes to get there, an hour.5 to get home. The drive would take 10 - 20 minutes depending on traffic.

Someone (Table 5?) mentioned that there was plans to get transit out to the airport, but the money sitch is slowing down the timeline. I contend that if transit was easier to use, that more people would use it, thereby increasing transit revenues & helping to pay for it. Being a driver, I'm sure happy about Bronco's bridge building; at the same time, I can't help but wonder if better transit would alleviate the road problems just as much as better roads would.

Build it and they will come?

[Eagle Eye]

Well back to the 'common sense' topic on riding the C-train.

I was so p*ssed off at this lady this morning. I was standing in the middle of the train and as it filled with travellers it got a little tighter (It wasn't sardines tight, but everyone was close). Well she figured that because she was reading a book and that there were a lot of people around her, she was able to stand without holding on to anything. Well everytime the train started she would lean on me. So at each stop I would try and move a little further away, the dumbass kept inching closer to me. If I had more space I would've waited until the train was about to stop and totally move out of the way (she would've fallen flat on her face).

*Note to lazy asses, other people are not there to hold you up.

[JohnnyO]

Calgary Transit is a joke. I live in RockyRidge and to catch the express downtown is the regular fare or pass plus a $0.50 premium each way. And coming home you get a lovely tour of Royal Oak!!

The other option is to catch the regular bus which makes a stop at crowfoot for about 10mins and then proceeds to Brentwood Station. (which does not give you a seat on the train and you still have to fight traffic on Crowchild Sarcee/Nosehill) because they under built Dalhousie Station !! And you also get the tour of Royal Oak going home.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Eagle Eye you know you liked it there. You should have started to whisper sweet nothings to her and just wait to see how long it takes her to move.

What really irks me about transit is when there is someone who is overweight and it results in them having to take up an entire seat, or what happened once I swear to got this fat ass lady got onto the train when it was fairly full and I was lucky enough to have a seat. She waddles up to me and says those are seats for people with disabilities - move. I was mildly amused at the idea that she had that because she was obese she deserved to have a seat on the train. If a senior comes by or someone that is preggers, or even someone with kids I will move and give up my seat. But if someone is fat is that a reason to move? Should I be forced to give up my seat because someone is a lardass?

Also when people play horrible music at a high volume so everyone on the train can learn that you are a white guy listening to Eminem and other assorted crap.....

The smell of listerene at all hours of the day night is in my opinion hilarious.

[Eagle Eye]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Mar 8 2005, 09:46 AM
Eagle Eye you know you liked it there. You should have started to whisper sweet nothings to her and just wait to see how long it takes her to move.

What really irks me about transit is when there is someone who is overweight and it results in them having to take up an entire seat, or what happened once I swear to got this fat ass lady got onto the train when it was fairly full and I was lucky enough to have a seat. She waddles up to me and says those are seats for people with disabilities - move. I was mildly amused at the idea that she had that because she was obese she deserved to have a seat on the train. If a senior comes by or someone that is preggers, or even someone with kids I will move and give up my seat. But if someone is fat is that a reason to move? Should I be forced to give up my seat because someone is a lardass?

Also when people play horrible music at a high volume so everyone on the train can learn that you are a white guy listening to Eminem and other assorted crap.....

The smell of listerene at all hours of the day night is in my opinion hilarious.

Did you get up? Or did she just sit on you?

[ratech]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Mar 8 2005, 09:46 AM
She waddles up to me and says those are seats for people with disabilities - move.

So did you move for the pork fata_ss?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

MMM I'm inclined to agree with you, senior, with children, carrying groceries or something give up your seat. But to demand it because you had a double cheese burger to make up for the walk to the bus stop/LRT station, doesn't cut it IMO.

first come first serve. I probably would have given up the seat, based on the mood I was in I might have said something.

[Calgary Flames]

MMM, you should've made up something like. "I'm sorry my weak ankles don't support me standing up on trains" Lying to complete strangers is a good thing! Especially with transit hounds.

Of course, if there were someone truly disabled i'd move and often do so without being asked.

[Eagle Eye]

Well whats funny is when people don't get up for a pregnant lady (ones you can actually tell), but you know what I find that it is the women that usually don't get up for another women who is pregnant. I know this cause when my wife was pregnant two years ago, men would always jump up when they saw her, but most (seriuosly most) women would just look at her and keep sitting.

[Superfraggle]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101@Mar 7 2005, 10:21 PM
and you can't go off-road (ie real camping).

driving a big vehicle off the road to get to some place a car can't go (but is open enough to permit an SUV) is NOT real camping anymore than going to those drive-in designated campgrounds. Do you really have to destroy the environment in order to get somewhere nice enough to enjoy it? :angry: . If you want to find a truly good place to camp, you're going to have to get off your butt and hike in. None of the best places are vehicle accessible. THANK GOODNESS. Stick to the designated campgrounds...we don't need too many people cluttering up the backcountry.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by Superfraggle@Mar 8 2005, 01:27 PM
driving a big vehicle off the road to get to some place a car can't go (but is open enough to permit an SUV) is NOT real camping anymore than going to those drive-in designated campgrounds. Do you really have to destroy the environment in order to get somewhere nice enough to enjoy it? :angry: . If you want to find a truly good place to camp, you're going to have to get off your butt and hike in. None of the best places are vehicle accessible. THANK GOODNESS. Stick to the designated campgrounds...we don't need too many people cluttering up the backcountry.

I guess you could stick to the designated campgrounds if you like noisy children, ton's of restrictions (ie noise), tourists, and are surrounded by people trying to escape the city.

Who said camping in the backcountry is destroying the environment? Stick to the trails when driving and all is fine. It is allowed by the government afterall. I'm not about to hike into the mountains with a truck load of equipment thank you.

[Superfraggle]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Mar 8 2005, 01:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Mar 8 2005, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Superfraggle@Mar 8 2005, 01:27 PM
driving a big vehicle off the road to get to some place a car can't go (but is open enough to permit an SUV) is NOT real camping anymore than going to those drive-in designated campgrounds.# Do you really have to destroy the environment in order to get somewhere nice enough to enjoy it?# :angry: .# If you want to find a truly good place to camp, you're going to have to get off your butt and hike in.# None of the best places are vehicle accessible.# THANK GOODNESS.# Stick to the designated campgrounds...we don't need too many people cluttering up the backcountry.

I guess you could stick to the designated campgrounds if you like noisy children, ton's of restrictions (ie noise), tourists, and are surrounded by people trying to escape the city.

Who said camping in the backcountry is destroying the environment? Stick to the trails when driving and all is fine. It is allowed by the government afterall. I'm not about to hike into the mountains with a truck load of equipment thank you. [/b][/quote]
Oh I never said I stick to designated campgrounds...nor do I use your methods, though. I do hike into my locations. If you need a truckload of equipment, I don't see how you can call it "real" camping. I was assuming no trails where you go, since you can take cars on the vast majority of established trails. As long as you stick to the trails, that's fine by me.

edit: to avoid philosophical debate over backcountry vs. frontcountry

[V]

Real chest-thumping campers don't need a truckload of equipment to go camping.B-)

That said, I wish I could camp in the back country, but my wife and 1 yo daughter can't get to where I want to go.

[4X4]

Originally posted by Superfraggle+Mar 8 2005, 01:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Superfraggle @ Mar 8 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BlackArcher101@Mar 7 2005, 10:21 PM
and you can't go off-road (ie real camping).

driving a big vehicle off the road to get to some place a car can't go (but is open enough to permit an SUV) is NOT real camping anymore than going to those drive-in designated campgrounds. Do you really have to destroy the environment in order to get somewhere nice enough to enjoy it? :angry: . If you want to find a truly good place to camp, you're going to have to get off your butt and hike in. None of the best places are vehicle accessible. THANK GOODNESS. Stick to the designated campgrounds...we don't need too many people cluttering up the backcountry. [/b][/quote]
Being in a designated isn't REAL camping IMO. Different strokes for different folks I guess, but a motorhome with a TV & microwave is not how I camp. Typically, these machines are accompanied by little kids & country music playing parents.

I prefer hauling my dirtbike into the backwoods via 4x4 & trailer to find a nice remote location. My friends & I set up camp & can be as loud as we want, and make use of the OHV trails that criss cross the mclean creek & waiporous areas.

[Superfraggle]

Originally posted by 4X4+Mar 8 2005, 02:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4X4 @ Mar 8 2005, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

driving a big vehicle off the road to get to some place a car can't go (but is open enough to permit an SUV) is NOT real camping anymore than going to those drive-in designated campgrounds. Do you really have to destroy the environment in order to get somewhere nice enough to enjoy it? :angry: . If you want to find a truly good place to camp, you're going to have to get off your butt and hike in. None of the best places are vehicle accessible. THANK GOODNESS. Stick to the designated campgrounds...we don't need too many people cluttering up the backcountry.

Being in a designated isn't REAL camping IMO. Different strokes for different folks I guess, but a motorhome with a TV & microwave is not how I camp. Typically, these machines are accompanied by little kids & country music playing parents.

I prefer hauling my dirtbike into the backwoods via 4x4 & trailer to find a nice remote location. My friends & I set up camp & can be as loud as we want, and make use of the OHV trails that criss cross the mclean creek & waiporous areas. [/b][/quote]
Oh I fully agree that being in those designated drive-in area isn't "real" camping. I was just recommending it for those people who want to drive to their spots. I don't, personally.

I'm not going to get into the issues about noise, dirt bikes, etc. right now.

[BlackArcher101]

I realize hauling equipment isn't "real" camping, but when there for a long period of time, why not have fun. We bring paintball equipment (extra co2 tanks), a generator to recharge batteries (during the day when we are away, so we can pound the music at night), firewood (because chopping down trees is a no-no ), and the coolers full of alcohol of course.

I agree though, real backcountry camping is hiking with a pack, tent, and just the necessities.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by 'Eagle Eye'+Mar 8 2005, 10:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ('Eagle Eye' @ Mar 8 2005, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mean Mr. Mustard@Mar 8 2005, 09:46 AM
Eagle Eye you know you liked it there. You should have started to whisper sweet nothings to her and just wait to see how long it takes her to move.

What really irks me about transit is when there is someone who is overweight and it results in them having to take up an entire seat, or what happened once I swear to got this fat ass lady got onto the train when it was fairly full and I was lucky enough to have a seat. She waddles up to me and says those are seats for people with disabilities - move. I was mildly amused at the idea that she had that because she was obese she deserved to have a seat on the train. If a senior comes by or someone that is preggers, or even someone with kids I will move and give up my seat. But if someone is fat is that a reason to move? Should I be forced to give up my seat because someone is a lardass?

Also when people play horrible music at a high volume so everyone on the train can learn that you are a white guy listening to Eminem and other assorted crap.....

The smell of listerene at all hours of the day night is in my opinion hilarious.

Did you get up? Or did she just sit on you? [/b][/quote]
No I didn't get up for lardass - I just put my head back down into my book and went on my day. What disability can a fat ass have that makes them orca fat? Muffinitis?