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kermitology · 03-09-2010, 01:58 PM

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What would we call it??

It should have something to do with remembering...

Table 5 · 03-09-2010, 01:59 PM

We should call it The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down.

Pastiche · 03-09-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

I had actually missed the first episode of BoB, so by the time I did see, i thought it was fascinating to find out where everyone came from. Sometimes the build up is as interesting as the actual battle.

That episode was the most important episode of the series. Without that you are rudderless with just a bunch of guys in a war like the crap that was Saving Private Ryan.

Pinner · 03-09-2010, 02:14 PM

How was the Passchendaele movie ?

kermitology · 03-09-2010, 02:44 PM

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How was the Passchendaele movie ?

For the most part derailed by terrible acting from anyone not named Paul Gross.

Seemed a bit too much of a love story for me.

Someone needs to make a movie out of Three Day Road by Joseph Boyden. That shows a lot of reality of the first world war.

Pinner · 03-09-2010, 03:12 PM

I only seen a brief part as I was shutting down for the night, a guy was trapped in the razor wire tied to posts like a cross... Highly symbolic.

Is anyone else amazed by the shear size of the war, the logistics involved to feed, cloth, and build ships/planes,bombs and ammo for the war? It's crazy, hard to comprehend.

3 Justin 3 · 03-09-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastiche

That episode was the most important episode of the series. Without that you are rudderless with just a bunch of guys in a war like the crap that was Saving Private Ryan.

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Saving Private Ryan was a brilliant movie.

holden · 03-10-2010, 01:52 AM

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That episode was the most important episode of the series. Without that you are rudderless with just a bunch of guys in a war like the crap that was Saving Private Ryan.

Wow! What a treat to hear from the only person on the face of the earth that hates Saving Private Ryan. You are the rarest of rare.

kermitology · 03-10-2010, 09:05 AM

I don't understand Pinner.

sa226 · 03-10-2010, 09:13 AM

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Saving Private Ryan was a brilliant movie.

I agree about the film, it is one of my favorites. In defense of his comment Saving Private Ryan is incredibly inaccurate, in many ways.

BoB is one of the more, if not the most accurate war depictions in modern film.

worth · 03-10-2010, 09:19 AM

Generation Kill says hello.

But BoB was indeed accurately portrayed, I think because they had a lot of stuff to go off of. Ambros' book and a lot of accounts of Easy Company and the actual history behind the whole thing.

When you get into SPR, you enter a world that is basically made up.

In any event, if you want to talk about incredibly inaccurate films, look no further than this year's best picture, The Hurt Locker. That was a difficult movie to watch for me.

kermitology · 03-10-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sa226

I agree about the film, it is one of my favorites. In defense of his comment Saving Private Ryan is incredibly inaccurate, in many ways.

BoB is one of the more, if not the most accurate war depictions in modern film.

That being said, Ambrose was notorious for his own inaccuracies and lack of acknowledging them when his errors are pointed out.

Pinner · 03-10-2010, 09:33 AM

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I don't understand Pinner.

Your not the only one kermit

That razor wire, cross scene was in Passchendaele, right?

And then I was expressing my bewilderment of the logistics involved with such a huge war, feeding, clothing, supplying ammo, moving millions of soldiers. I wonder how many civilians were displaced... 100 million? more?
50 million civilians were killed... Crazy, very hard to comprehend.

kermitology · 03-10-2010, 09:33 AM

^^ Yes, that was at the end of the movie, in about 10 minutes of actual battle scene. The remainder takes place in Canada.

Pinner · 03-10-2010, 09:37 AM

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The remainder takes place in Canada.

I had no idea, now I won't watch it

Pastiche · 03-10-2010, 09:48 AM

I respect the achievement of Saving Private Ryan but look at my post in this thread about Letters from Iwo Jima and draw your own conclusions about why I didn't like SPR. Basically, the entire premise of the plot was idiotic and poorly contrasted with the attempt to make the movie very realistic in its action sequences. If the story and details aren't realistic then nothing is. There is NO WAY a mission like that would ever happen. SPR fell into tired war movie cliches that were laughable. It was jingoistic displaying the Germans as truly bad instead of being just the same young men on both sides. Meh, I'm ranting.

I understand why alot of people liked SPR but when stood up next to BoB where they truly show that war is hell it just looks like a summer action movie, which is essentially what it is.

Table 5 · 03-10-2010, 09:59 AM

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In any event, if you want to talk about incredibly inaccurate films, look no further than this year's best picture, The Hurt Locker. That was a difficult movie to watch for me.

How so? Haven't seen it myself, and am curious.

Table 5 · 03-10-2010, 10:05 AM

Saving Private Ryan might not have been the most historically accurate movie, but I still remember seeing a ton of veterans going into the theaters, and coming out with teared-up eyes, so there must have been something to it.

Compared to a lot of war movies, it seemed pretty close to reality to me (that is, a snot-nosed kid from the pansy generation). The premise was perhaps a little far-fetched, but I still remember it to be quite a shock to the system.... especially that first 20 minutes. I had never seen war portrayed like that before.

Pastiche · 03-10-2010, 10:11 AM

Oh and I thought The Hurt Locker was friggin terrible. So many huge inaccuracies. The sniper scene was beyond comprehension on how idiotic it was.

sa226 · 03-10-2010, 10:19 AM

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That being said, Ambrose was notorious for his own inaccuracies and lack of acknowledging them when his errors are pointed out.

I do vaguely remember something about that but I havent read the book so I can't really comment on the differences between the book and the movie.

As far as BoB goes, a war historian who gave tours of the D-Day beaches and airborne landing zones told me one of the more inaccurate scenes in BoB, was the scene in the second episode where a small group of E company and the 82nd ambushed the Germans with the horses under the bridge the night before D-Day. It actually didn't happen under a bridge, it was just on a elevated roadway. They added the bridge because of lighting issues when shooting a scene like that in the open at night.

Also the legend of Spiers was deliberately told in a vague fashion, because the only person with a first hand account was Malarky, and he understandably didn't want to tarnish the name of an excellent and decorated soldier like Spiers.

Speculation was that somebody must have known some of what Spiers actually did because even though he was highly decorated and very well respected among his peers, not to mention he served through WWII and Korea, yet he only retired with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.