Toques during the anthem

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I say please and thank you. But I also leave my hat on inside. What do you have to say to that?

Well it is a shame that you do not know all your manners then.

But I appreciate the fact you were interested in my opinion.

[SeeBass]

I think calling out ones loyalty because they do not remove their hat is a little silly.

It is a tradition that I choose to follow and I do think less of somebody that chooses to remove their hat. I just find it disrespectful. But then again you are also supposed to place the hat over your heart too and I see few people, including myself, who do that so it is really all just degrees of respect I guess.

I would assume that the guys who don't remove their hats would find the guys who refuse to stand dissrespectful. So hopefully they can see where we are coming from when we don't like it.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I think calling out ones loyalty because they do not remove their hat is a little silly.

It is a tradition that I choose to follow and I do think less of somebody that chooses to remove their hat. I just find it disrespectful. But then again you are also supposed to place the hat over your heart too and I see few people, including myself, who do that so it is really all just degrees of respect I guess.

I would assume that the guys who don't remove their hats would find the guys who refuse to stand disrespectful. So hopefully they can see where we are coming from when we don't like it.

The thing is a lot of us that don't buy into the old traditions and see nothing wrong with not removing hats are very unlikely to see anything wrong with not standing either.

Point is just because some see it as disrespectful doesn't mean everyone has to. I'm as patriotic as anyone and I don't feel the need to justify that by doing something I don't believe makes me patriotic just to appease a group of people.

As was said a few times, while I don't remove my hat I do stand simply because it's not worth the headache from listening to ignorant people whine about it.

The fact that this matters to anyone when the athlete(s) in question are competing and winning medals for OUR COUNTRY is just silly. These athletes have done a hell of a lot more for our country than anyone else has by removing there hats. Silly.

[PowerPlayoffs06]

I have a hard time believing these die hard patriots stand in front of their barker loungers at home, hands over hearts belting out O Canada at the TV in their living rooms before every Flames game when the anthem gets played, tears glistening in their eyes. My guess is they only do it when part of a crowd because they don't want to be "that guy."

[Geeoff]

I didn't even know that wearing a hat during the anthem was frowned upon. I guess I've never really worn hats... Well you learn something every day!

Technically, everyone wearing a hat indoors is being rude.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I didn't even know that wearing a hat during the anthem was frowned upon. I guess I've never really worn hats... Well you learn something every day!

Technically, everyone wearing a hat indoors is being rude.

This is the one that just baffles me.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Technically, everyone wearing a hat indoors is being rude.

Trust me my hat hair is more rude!

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Kaine

The thing is a lot of us that don't buy into the old traditions and see nothing wrong with not removing hats are very unlikely to see anything wrong with not standing either.

Point is just because some see it as disrespectful doesn't mean everyone has to. I'm as patriotic as anyone and I don't feel the need to justify that by doing something I don't believe makes me patriotic just to appease a group of people.

As was said a few times, while I don't remove my hat I do stand simply because it's not worth the headache from listening to ignorant people whine about it.

The fact that this matters to anyone when the athlete(s) in question are competing and winning medals for OUR COUNTRY is just silly. These athletes have done a hell of a lot more for our country than anyone else has by removing there hats. Silly.

Yes people who are annoyed at people who don't stand for the anthem are the ignorant ones
Perhaps one day when you comprehend the sacrifice that others made so you have the freedom to make your "ignorant" choice you may have no problem getting off your butt. it must be nice to live in your entitled head.
I feel sorry for you that you have no idea how fortunate you are.

let me guess wearing a poppy is stupid too

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Trust me my hat hair is more rude!

Yeah, I wear a hat to cover up the ugliness of my head. It works out for all involved parties.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Yes people who are annoyed at people who don't stand for the anthem are the ignorant ones
Perhaps one day when you comprehend the sacrifice that others made so you have the freedom to make your "ignorant" choice you may have no problem getting off your butt. it must be nice to live in your entitled head.
I feel sorry for you that you have no idea how fortunate you are.

let me guess wearing a poppy is stupid too

Let me ask you this then, and I don't want answers that are "just because" because those are meaningless outside of your opinion.

Why is not taking off ones hat rude? I have relatives that have as you said "sacrificed there lives so that I have freedom, why does the gesture of removing ones hat honor them anymore than say hoping on one leg while singing Oh Canada? What if I'm wearing a hat with a Canadian logo, wouldn't that be more rude?

Why is sitting during the anthem any different? Again how is it disrespectful to anyone? Why is it more important that others follow your traditions that may be meaningless to them than say appreciate our country and those that died for our freedoms in a way that means something to them? To me bringing flowers to my grandfathers grave who died in a war defending our freedom means something to me, standing because it's simply tradition is meaningless. I'm not saying I refuse to stand or never do, but I sure would be the last guy to say anything to someone who choose to sit. How do you know they don't have a better way of showing support?

I usually don't wear poppies due to the fact that I stab myself repeatedly more often than not however I do donate and spend time with friends and family that have served in the armed forces and fought in wars.

Your right I'm the ignorant one because I don't blindly follow traditions that hold no meaning to me

I feel sorry for you that you have no idea how fortunate you are that you can criticize someone else's beliefs without consequence.

Besides as HOOT said, some of us are doing everyone a favor by keeping our hats on

***Fail at spelling edit.

[Barnes]

Why are people still discussing this? I thought I killed it when I dropped a huge knowledge bomb on it.

Killer_Carlson's body has not been identified but he hasn't been seen since.

You must play anthems in correct order.

Stand up out of respect.

It is traditional for civilian men to take off their hats.

Those are guidelines and not laws like they have in the land of the free down south.

[J epworth]

Ashleigh McIvor took her toque off!!!! Yaaaay!

Haha

[flip]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Ashleigh McIvor took her toque off!!!! Yaaaay!

Haha

Good thing, otherwise it means that she hates Canada.

[GirlySports]

She's been reading CP!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Kaine

Why is sitting during the anthem any different? Again how is it disrespectful to anyone? Why is it more important that others follow your traditions that may be meaningless to them than say appreciate our country and those that died for our freedoms in a way that means something to them?

To me the standing part makes sense because it is about paying active attention while the national anthem is being played.

While the anthem is being played you should be singing or reflecting on your country not thinking about the hot drunk girl in the flames jersey in front of you or trying to chat her up or yelling oilers suck. The amount of attention (ie: repsect) you give it during that time is more important to me then sitting standing or how you are dressed.

I am not caught up on protocol but when the anthem is being played you should be paying attention to me one of the things in general that help people to pay attention and focus and remind them that something different is happening so I should stop my conversation is to stand.

I would also to the protocol police if you are busy getting angry at all the people sitting are you really respecting the anthem while it is playing.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by flip

Good thing, otherwise it means that she hates Canada.

Woman and children do not remove their hats as per the guidelines i posted above. She hates Canada.

[PowerPlayoffs06]

Barnes already ended this thread once. Why'd you have to go dig it up again? =P

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by PowerPlayoffs06

Barnes already ended this thread once. Why'd you have to go dig it up again? =P

Haha I'm sorry, I thought it was a good laugh

[Jaybo]

I take off my hat and I stand for the anthem but I still think that people getting bent out of shape over this are missing the point.

The sacrifices that were made weren't about standing up/wearing a hat/singing a song. They were so that people had the freedom to do whatever they wanted to do in a free and democratic society (within the bounds of the law that is - but not within the "generally accepted cultural guidelines".)

Everyone has the right to follow (or not follow) these societal mores as they see fit.

People who don't get that are the unpatriotic ones.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Jaybo

I take off my hat and I stand for the anthem but I still think that people getting bent out of shape over this are missing the point.

The sacrifices that were made weren't about standing up/wearing a hat/singing a song. They were so that people had the freedom to do whatever they wanted to do in a free and democratic society (within the bounds of the law that is - but not within the "generally accepted cultural guidelines".)

Everyone has the right to follow (or not follow) these societal mores as they see fit.

People who don't get that are the unpatriotic ones.

Said what I failed to do in a few post (minus the fact that I choose not to remove my hat as where you choose to).

Very well put hypocrisy afoot in some posters