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Flash Walken · 02-19-2010, 11:26 AM

Hey Everyone!

I have a great! idea!

Let's split up Oates and Hull and put Hull on the fourth line and tell him that we need him to be Physical! And then we won't play him when we are desperate for a goal, because goddamnit, he hasn't been playing physical enough while sitting on the bench for the whole third period! HIT SOME GUYS AS THEY COME OFF FOR A CHANGE!

STANLEY CUP GOLD!

silentsim · 02-19-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Hey Everyone!

I have a great! idea!

Let's split up Oates and Hull and put Hull on the fourth line and tell him that we need him to be Physical! And then we won't play him when we are desperate for a goal, because goddamnit, he hasn't been playing physical enough while sitting on the bench for the whole third period! HIT SOME GUYS AS THEY COME OFF FOR A CHANGE!

STANLEY CUP GOLD!

I am going to laugh at you when we win gold, behind Mike Babcock.

Iginla will get another chance, and he will dominate, as we know he can.

CGY12 · 02-19-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Hey Everyone!

I have a great! idea!

Let's split up Oates and Hull and put Hull on the fourth line and tell him that we need him to be Physical! And then we won't play him when we are desperate for a goal, because goddamnit, he hasn't been playing physical enough while sitting on the bench for the whole third period! HIT SOME GUYS AS THEY COME OFF FOR A CHANGE!

STANLEY CUP GOLD!

LMAO! Well said.

Bertuzzied · 02-19-2010, 11:33 AM

You guys are hilarious. Finally viewing threads as an outsider looking in. Canada wins, Iggy is rested and you guys are still bitching about the world.

Well if Team Canada is going to rely on the Shark line for this tournament they are destined for 4th or 5th.

Flash Walken · 02-19-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by silentsim

I am going to laugh at you when we win gold, behind Mike Babcock.

Iginla will get another chance, and he will dominate, as we know he can.

Great insight.

Can you think of a good reason to not play your best goal scorer with your best playmaker?

I said it before the tournament, Iginla will play less than one period on the fourth line before he instantly develops chemistry with Crosby and produces on the top line.

On what planet is a bodycheck better than a hattrick? It makes absolutely no sense at all and can't be justified with "I will laugh when we win".

Canada was close to coming away with 1 point against the freakin swiss in a game where Iginla gets 3 shifts in the third period. That is IDIOTIC coaching.

Maybe Babcock is a great coach who made a massive slipup, but it was MASSIVE. Sheepishly pointing to his reputation isn't really a defense.

Ace Handy · 02-19-2010, 11:44 AM

I know we're all Iginla fans here. But IMHO this goes way past the benching of Jarome. Canada was out-coached last night. The Swiss played their system perfectly and our coaching staff either refused to or didn't adjust. The Shark line may have had two goals, but with the amount of ice time they had, they should have had more. Getzlaf was skating around like he was in a freakin' all-star game, yet was out every second shift. The Swiss played amazing, and I'm not saying we should have won 8-0 nothing, but we were lucky to come out of that game with two points.

looooob · 02-19-2010, 11:44 AM

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The funniest part of CP: People thinking they know more then a coach who has won at the highest levels in the NHL.

yeah because that never happens on messageboards, mainstream media or pubs across the country

are people over-reacting? sure

is questioning a coach unique to CP? I think not

are cup winning coaches above being questioned? I'm not sure. Was Marc Crawford beyond reproach in 98?

VladtheImpaler · 02-19-2010, 11:48 AM

You guys are acting as if this is 1984 and Babcock benched Gretzky. Good lord, have some perspective. For all we know, Iginla is the 13th forward on the depth chart, notwithstanding the awesome display against Fort Worth...errr... Norway. Based on age, play this season... I would say Iginla is in the mix with Morrow and Bergeron for the #11-13 spots, and Bergeron is the designated face-off guy...
I think it's a much bigger deal that Lidstrom was getting minimal ice-time for the Swedes - was he benched?

looooob · 02-19-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Good lord, have some perspective. For all we know, Iginla is the 13th forward on depth chart, notwithstanding the awesome display against Fort Worth...errr... Norway. Based on age, play this season... I would say Iginla is in the mix with Morrow and Bergeron for the #11-13 spots,

well he's clearly the 11th-13th forward we do know that much

hopefully it works out

Flash Walken · 02-19-2010, 11:52 AM

Mike Keenan has exactly the same amount of Finals appearances and cups as Mike Babcock.

Beyond Reproach.

VladtheImpaler · 02-19-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by looooob

well he's clearly the 11th-13th forward we do know that much

hopefully it works out

As a Flame fan I am all for Iginla getting plenty of bench time, no injuries and having something to prove when he comes back...

the_professsor · 02-19-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Mike Keenan has exactly the same amount of Finals appearances and cups as Mike Babcock.

Beyond Reproach.

Mike Keenan coached for 20 or so years, Babcock is in year 7...

argument invalid

I_H8_Crawford · 02-19-2010, 11:55 AM

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Whoa whoa whoa! Lets not forget this man is the genius leading the talent laden Detroit Red Wings to 10th place in the conference!

Not just any Kevin Lowe can do that! It takes a special guy!

Yzerman picked his buddy to coach. Not the best coach available.

Just curious - who was the best coach available for Canada if it wasn't Babcock??

looooob · 02-19-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

As a Flame fan I am all for Iginla getting plenty of bench time, no injuries and having something to prove when he comes back...

I don't entirely disagree. I would like to see things work out for Canada also and I understand that can happen with or without Iginla. I just hope the coaches don't try and outsmart themselves as they have been known to do in other Olympics

Flash Walken · 02-19-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

You guys are acting as if this is 1984 and Babcock benched Gretzky. Good lord, have some perspective. For all we know, Iginla is the 13th forward on the depth chart, notwithstanding the awesome display against Fort Worth...errr... Norway. Based on age, play this season... I would say Iginla is in the mix with Morrow and Bergeron for the #11-13 spots, and Bergeron is the designated face-off guy...
I think it's a much bigger deal that Lidstrom was getting minimal ice-time for the Swedes - was he benched?

Or like it is 1998 and Marc Crawford benched Gretzky.

Thus far in the tournament I think there has been less than 5 team canada players on par or exceeding what Iginla has brought.

How can everyone ignore what happened the previous game. Iggy came out banging, had 3 hits on his first 2 shifts and scored 3 unique type goals. Ripped it, tapped it in and deflected it in while screening the goalie.

He's not a one dimensional player, and was CLEARLY performing, and I think most would say, has outperformed basically every other player that has received more icetime.

I have yet to see a defense that wasn't 'wait and see'.

Flash Walken · 02-19-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by the_professsor

Mike Keenan coached for 20 or so years, Babcock is in year 7...

argument invalid

Mike Keenan was in year 9.

GreenLantern · 02-19-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

Just curious - who was the best coach available for Canada if it wasn't Babcock??

Tell me that this Canada team ill under achieve for this guy. This ain't the Flames, top talent in the world with a coach who knows how to win at the International level.

I_H8_Crawford · 02-19-2010, 12:10 PM

LOL Brent Sutter?????

Yeah his team is performing SOOOOOOO well vs. Babcock's team.

At least Babcock has the injury excuse.

What exactly has B Sutter done at the highest level again? 1st round exits and, an UNDERACHIEVING team!!!

GreenLantern · 02-19-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

LOL Brent Sutter?????

Yeah his team is performing SOOOOOOO well vs. Babcock's team.

At least Babcock has the injury excuse.

What exactly has B Sutter done at the highest level again? 1st round exits and, an UNDERACHIEVING team!!!

I_H8_Crawford · 02-19-2010, 12:45 PM

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Yeah, right.

Babcock has been in the FINALS for two straight years, and has his team that has been decimated by injuries in the playoff mix.

B Sutter has two straight first round exits, and has his healthy team barely ahead of Babcock's team... but Sutter would be the better choice...

Call me a troll all you want, ANYONE outside of Calgary would see Babcock is the FAR superior choice.