Protesters smashing windows

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

You certainly don't know your city very well. Or the issues. Let's make this simple - If the games were in say...Calgary, would there be protests? Probably not. There is an undeniable local protestor culture in Vancouver, and it comes from the massive social inequalities that exist there. If you feel better blaming other governments for Vancouver's problems, go ahead.

You don't think there would be any protesters if the games were in Calgary today? I'm pretty certain they have learned to travel.

I hate Vancouver as much as anyone but the rioting happens at every World event now a days.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

What is it about BC and riots. I can't even think of a have decent disturbance anywhere else in Canada. But off the top of my head, BC has had the Penticton Peachfest riots, the Kelowna Regatta riots, Guns and roses riot at BC Place, the Chretien riot, the only "losing the Stanley Cup" (afaik), even a riot at the Parksville Sand Castle competition!

Perhaps we should have Vancouver rioters face off against Montreal rioters in Winnipeg to determine who can cause the most damage in a set period of time?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

9/11? WTF? This is among your worst posts. How your mind came to the connection between local Vancouver protestors (who are prevalent at any given time) and the foreign terrorists of 9/11 is beyond me. Everyone on earth knew these local protest groups would make themselves known. How? Because those same local protest groups said they would. They aren't from Calgary, or anywhere else, they're local. Making this situation nothing even remotely close to 9/11. I have to think that you've had a lapse in judgement in making this post.

Whoosh.

Its a comparison...blaming the "city" for what happens by forces outside the cities control.

But carry on with that soap box.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Perhaps we should have Vancouver rioters face off against Montreal rioters in Winnipeg to determine who can cause the most damage in a set period of time?

How would you gauge the damage sustained though when Winnipeg is already damaged goods?

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Whoosh.

Its a comparison...blaming the "city" for what happens by forces outside the cities control.

But carry on with that soap box.

So you're saying that Vancouverites aren't responsible for the rioting in the same way NYC wasn't responsible for 9/11?

I think you're the one hearing the whoosh. It's an embarrassing and laughable comparison on your part. Not to mention inconsiderate.

[transplant99]

So you're saying that Vancouverites aren't responsible for the rioting in the same way NYC wasn't responsible for 9/11?

Correct.

I think you're the one hearing the whoosh. It's an embarrassing and laughable comparison on your part. Not to mention inconsiderate.

Laugh away.

And inconsiderate to who?

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Correct.



Laugh away.

And inconsiderate to who?

Vancouver and Protestors:

If you're saying the 'city' isn't responsible for what's going on in the sense that the people living in the city aren't responsible for what's going on, you haven't taken the time to consider the strong history and culture of Vancouverites. While it's true people have probably come in from out of town to join in, it wouldn't make too much sense that a committee calling themselves 'The Vancouver Welcoming Committee' would be from elsewhere. These protestors, as a majority, are local. Clear and obvious. They are unhappy that their tax dollars are being spent on games instead of housing and drug prevention, etc. It's their fight, not the same as a WTO protest or something similar, where the decisions made by governments are wide reaching. Again, it's a local issue being raised by local groups. Further proof that Vancouver locals are playing a key role in these protests is from their well documented social movement history.

NYC and terrorists

Obviously Al Qaeda isn't from NYC or anywhere near. Obviously NYC isn't responsible. How does your comparison between Vancouver's current protests match up with NYC and terrorists? It just doesn't. There are no grounds for relevancy within what we're discussing. Two entirely different events, motivated by different perspectives and with different goals in mind. To say it's inconsiderate is going too far, but it's just not relevant. A bad comparison.

Bottom Line

The location of these games is having an impact on the protesting taking place. Vancouver is playing a role in what's going on, and are not innocent in the same way the people of NYC were.

Is any part of what I'm saying fair?

[transplant99]

Is any part of what I'm saying fair

Sure.

now who was i inconsiderate too through my "lapse of judgement"?

[Canuck-Hater]

Meh, just protesters that want to be heard nothing illegal about that. Dont know if breaking windows was necessary though.

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Sure.

now who was i inconsiderate too through my "lapse of judgement"?

I could just tell you to read through my post again, but something tells me you didn't miss .... "To say it's inconsiderate is going too far, but it's just not relevant." ....And are just looking to further the argument.

I appreciate you taking the time to realize your comparison wasn't well thought out.

[fatso]

good grief, transplant99 can be exhausting.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Meh, just protesters that want to be heard nothing illegal about that. Dont know if breaking windows was necessary though.

Unless you're trying to spread awareness for the fragility of windows, I don't think breaking them is ever necessary.

[browna]

Watched the news at 3:30. Sounds as if there were some local protestors there to protest that the games were in the city and didn't like the $ spent.

Somewhat like crying over the split milk as its getting cleaned up, but that's their right.

However, in addition to some legitimate protestors, a bunch of punks seizing the opportunity dressed all in black and causing petty damage, breaking windows and turning over newpaper boxes.

My opinion, these are just local punks looking to cause crap and using any excuse or any opportunity to act like jackasses.

[_Q_]

Haven't read the whole thread, but what are these clowns protesting?

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

You certainly don't know your city very well. Or the issues. Let's make this simple - If the games were in say...Calgary, would there be protests? Probably not. There is an undeniable local protestor culture in Vancouver, and it comes from the massive social inequalities that exist there. If you feel better blaming other governments for Vancouver's problems, go ahead.

100% they would, these are not vancouver protesters, they were anti-olympic groups

I actually feel bad for the legitimate protesters who whether or not you agree with them (I don't) were trying to get their message across in the right way, they weren't taking part in the violence and many of them started walking away when the idiots took to property damage. One of those times when I wouldn't have minded the police to use more than the allowable use of force.

It makes the entire group look like the idiots, and when they are protesting over the cost of the games, they are showing the world why the security budget needs to be so high.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Haven't read the whole thread, but what are these clowns protesting?

Depends on who you think the clowns are.

If you mean that the person or persons that broke the glass they are protesting that they were given sh*t for brains.

Besides that I didn't see anyone dressed in red hair and big shoes so I can't help you.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by fatso

good grief, transplant99 can be exhausting.

He won't stop until you think that "could of" is right!

[transplant99]

I appreciate you taking the time to realize your comparison wasn't well thought out

Nice try. Not at all what I said.

Obviously you cannot answer the question as your original staement is ridiculous.

Again..all i am saying was in response to the OP saying this was the city of Vancouvers fault. That is absurd.

good grief, transplant99 can be exhausting

So can reading posts that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, yet you take time out of your day to do so. Interesting. Dont like it? Ignore.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Shazam

He won't stop until you think that "could of" is right!

Another brilliant drive-by from you. Well done..or maybe all you have to contribute which would explain many things.

deal with the subject at hand would ya?

[MJK]

I blame East Hastings Street.